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Gen VI Pokemon Discussion

Which are your favourite Pokemon revealed so far?


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AceTogeTrainer

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I don't know if people have discussed this already but does anyone think that the new mewtwo forme will be the same new type as sylveon? I mean fairy could fall through and we can get somethinng similar that also encompasses the new forme?

I do think that may be the case, with a possible new Light type. If not, I'm thinking Sylveon will be Flying.

I'm not sure if it was confirmed that Yayakoma is the regional bird, but I am thinking and hoping that it definitely will be. I tend to keep the regional bird on my team for a good while, and I'm really like Yayakoma's design.

My favorite of the newly revealed Pokémon is Erikiteru. This is mainly because of its unique type combination and adorable face.

It looks like the regional bird but its just that flame charge thats throwing me off. I mean it would be amazing if it could evolve into some regal phoenix / robin fire thing but that wouldn't really be a generational bird thing to do...
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Just for a bit of different discussion, what about shinies? These are my predictions (haha, a bit random, but I just love shinies 030)
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That's some nice work there.
 

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I don't know if people have discussed this already but does anyone think that the new mewtwo forme will be the same new type as sylveon? I mean fairy could fall through and we can get somethinng similar that also encompasses the new forme?

I do think that may be the case, with a possible new Light type. If not, I'm thinking Sylveon will be Flying.

I'm not sure if it was confirmed that Yayakoma is the regional bird, but I am thinking and hoping that it definitely will be. I tend to keep the regional bird on my team for a good while, and I'm really like Yayakoma's design.

My favorite of the newly revealed Pokémon is Erikiteru. This is mainly because of its unique type combination and adorable face.

It looks like the regional bird but its just that flame charge thats throwing me off. I mean it would be amazing if it could evolve into some regal phoenix / robin fire thing but that wouldn't really be a generational bird thing to do...

While I do think it isn't per the norm of regional birds to use fire moves or be Phoenix-esque creature. I do belive it was previously stated/confirmed that their are 3 meta regions, so maybe it is the regional bird for one of the meta regions
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Looking at Yayakoma's design, I'd have to agree with what others have said in that I think the line is going to have an arrow motif. So it's possible that learning Flame Charge could be a reference to incendiary arrows rather than an indication that it'll become a fire type.
 

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Looking at Yayakoma's design, I'd have to agree with what others have said in that I think the line is going to have an arrow motif. So it's possible that learning Flame Charge could be a reference to incendiary arrows rather than an indication that it'll become a fire type.

While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?
 

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While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?

From what I can tell, it's because the tail feathers have the shape and pattern of arrow fletchings making the bird resemble an arrow in flight. Some people also think that a robin Pokemon may end up referencing Robin Hood, one of the most famous archers in European folklore.
EDIT: Also it is thought that the name may be derived from a combination of Ya (arrow) and koma (from komadori, or Japanese Robin).

It's not a lot to go on, but there's certainly more weight to it than the western phoenix idea (which incidentally, has no connection to robins and has been done)
 
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While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?

From what I can tell, it's because the tail feathers have the shape and pattern of arrow fletchings making the bird resemble an arrow in flight. Some people also think that a robin Pokemon may end up referencing Robin Hood, one of the most famous archers in European folklore.

It's not a lot to go on, but there's certainly more weight to it than the western phoenix idea (which incidentally, has no connection to robins and has been done)

Well although many pokemon do have deep thematic development in their design,movesets etc. most of the regional birds are just that, plain birds. and if it isnt the regional bird then there's no reason that the arrow idea can't coexist with the flaming robin idea. (and just so you know a confirmed move is just as much proof as tail markings). I hope i didn't just come off as too blunt but thats just my humble opinion.

And also just a random thought but... what happens if the panda is the regional "rodent" I know its highly unlikely but from the one generational release i actually followed, patrat and pidove were released at the same time?? right?? but actually the electric thing could very well be the rodent since we really don't know what exactly it is and it ISSS normal type aswell... even if it turns out to be the regional rodent i still hope its evo is the fan lizard thing.
 

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While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?

From what I can tell, it's because the tail feathers have the shape and pattern of arrow fletchings making the bird resemble an arrow in flight. Some people also think that a robin Pokemon may end up referencing Robin Hood, one of the most famous archers in European folklore.

It's not a lot to go on, but there's certainly more weight to it than the western phoenix idea (which incidentally, has no connection to robins and has been done)

Well although many pokemon do have deep thematic development in their design,movesets etc. most of the regional birds are just that, plain birds. and if it isnt the regional bird then there's no reason that the arrow idea can't coexist with the flaming robin idea. (and just so you know a confirmed move is just as much proof as tail markings). I hope i didn't just come off as too blunt but thats just my humble opinion.

And also just a random thought but... what happens if the panda is the regional "rodent" I know its highly unlikely but from the one generational release i actually followed, patrat and pidove were released at the same time?? right?? but actually the electric thing could very well be the rodent since we really don't know what exactly it is and it ISSS normal type aswell... even if it turns out to be the regional rodent i still hope its evo is the fan lizard thing.
I wouldn't be suprised if the panda is the regional rodent, although how a panda cub fits into being the regional rat for a FRANCE-like region is highly unlikely. I will still be using the panda in my X team, along with Chespin, the bird, the ralts family, and the snorlax family. I am very excited to see how the panda evolves.

(Man this is a jumbled post)
 

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In the trailer there was that desert area with the dome-like structures, and on the revealed map, there appears to be a desert west of Miare city, So I'm thinking that Erikiteru would be found there so it can absorb the sunlight easily.
 

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In the trailer there was that desert area with the dome-like structures, and on the revealed map, there appears to be a desert west of Miare city, So I'm thinking that Erikiteru would be found there so it can absorb the sunlight easily.

I'm thinking that that is a very good point, but, Even in a desert how would erikiteru survive. Plenty of sunlight will only go so well without water...
 

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While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?

From what I can tell, it's because the tail feathers have the shape and pattern of arrow fletchings making the bird resemble an arrow in flight. Some people also think that a robin Pokemon may end up referencing Robin Hood, one of the most famous archers in European folklore.

It's not a lot to go on, but there's certainly more weight to it than the western phoenix idea (which incidentally, has no connection to robins and has been done)

Well although many pokemon do have deep thematic development in their design,movesets etc. most of the regional birds are just that, plain birds. and if it isnt the regional bird then there's no reason that the arrow idea can't coexist with the flaming robin idea. (and just so you know a confirmed move is just as much proof as tail markings). I hope i didn't just come off as too blunt but thats just my humble opinion.

And also just a random thought but... what happens if the panda is the regional "rodent" I know its highly unlikely but from the one generational release i actually followed, patrat and pidove were released at the same time?? right?? but actually the electric thing could very well be the rodent since we really don't know what exactly it is and it ISSS normal type aswell... even if it turns out to be the regional rodent i still hope its evo is the fan lizard thing.
I wouldn't be suprised if the panda is the regional rodent, although how a panda cub fits into being the regional rat for a FRANCE-like region is highly unlikely. I will still be using the panda in my X team, along with Chespin, the bird, the ralts family, and the snorlax family. I am very excited to see how the panda evolves.

(Man this is a jumbled post)

Are you sure? I think if the panda is actually the regional rodent all this hype about it would die out really quickly, I mean noone will even want to use it since its stats would be lackluster. But i guess all the rodents have had this sense of patheticness too them ... actually from the look on the elekutric-y things face i feel like he will be the rodent
 

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I don't know if people have discussed this already but does anyone think that the new mewtwo forme will be the same new type as sylveon? I mean fairy could fall through and we can get somethinng similar that also encompasses the new forme?

I do think that may be the case, with a possible new Light type. If not, I'm thinking Sylveon will be Flying.

I'm not sure if it was confirmed that Yayakoma is the regional bird, but I am thinking and hoping that it definitely will be. I tend to keep the regional bird on my team for a good while, and I'm really like Yayakoma's design.

My favorite of the newly revealed Pokémon is Erikiteru. This is mainly because of its unique type combination and adorable face.

It looks like the regional bird but its just that flame charge thats throwing me off. I mean it would be amazing if it could evolve into some regal phoenix / robin fire thing but that wouldn't really be a generational bird thing to do...

Noctowl could learn Psychic moves and Staraptor could learn Close Combat. They were both the "standard" regional birds and could learn interesting moves. Flame Charge would be no different. Chances are that Yayakoma is the regional bird.
 

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I don't know if people have discussed this already but does anyone think that the new mewtwo forme will be the same new type as sylveon? I mean fairy could fall through and we can get somethinng similar that also encompasses the new forme?

I do think that may be the case, with a possible new Light type. If not, I'm thinking Sylveon will be Flying.

I'm not sure if it was confirmed that Yayakoma is the regional bird, but I am thinking and hoping that it definitely will be. I tend to keep the regional bird on my team for a good while, and I'm really like Yayakoma's design.

My favorite of the newly revealed Pokémon is Erikiteru. This is mainly because of its unique type combination and adorable face.

It looks like the regional bird but its just that flame charge thats throwing me off. I mean it would be amazing if it could evolve into some regal phoenix / robin fire thing but that wouldn't really be a generational bird thing to do...

Noctowl could learn Psychic moves and Staraptor could learn Close Combat. They were both the "standard" regional birds and could learn interesting moves. Flame Charge would be no different. Chances are that Yayakoma is the regional bird.
I always thought that even with the slight psychic move set noctowl had, it was rather plain. I don't know what it is, but the new bird seems a little bit special somehow.
 

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In the trailer there was that desert area with the dome-like structures, and on the revealed map, there appears to be a desert west of Miare city, So I'm thinking that Erikiteru would be found there so it can absorb the sunlight easily.

I'm thinking that that is a very good point, but, Even in a desert how would erikiteru survive. Plenty of sunlight will only go so well without water...

probably the way real lizards survive in deserts. rain and stufff
 

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While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?

From what I can tell, it's because the tail feathers have the shape and pattern of arrow fletchings making the bird resemble an arrow in flight. Some people also think that a robin Pokemon may end up referencing Robin Hood, one of the most famous archers in European folklore.
EDIT: Also it is thought that the name may be derived from a combination of Ya (arrow) and koma (from komadori, or Japanese Robin).

It's not a lot to go on, but there's certainly more weight to it than the western phoenix idea (which incidentally, has no connection to robins and has been done)

I can't help but thank you a million times for opening my eyes to Yayakoma's design. I saw the arrowlike markings in the bird. And I knew the JP name came from Komadori, the Japanese Robin (which is actually not in the same genus as the American Robin, all you residents of the U.S. that see the robin everywhere. It's more closely related to the European Robin, for those of you who reside in Europe!). But for whatever reason I didn't associate the "Ya" sound to the Japanese word for arrow. And I knew the damn word! Thank you again, Winterdaze (awesome username by the way). I'm more convinced than ever that this is the design concept's direction, pun rightfully intended.

By the way, did you know "yaya" in hiragana means "somewhat"? Somewhat + arrow + komadori all meshes well with the "arrow-like Japanese robin."

Also, something interesting to note: The Ryukyu Robin has the species name "komadori", yet is referred to as the akahige in Japanese. Yet, akahige is the species name for the Japanese Robin, even though IT is referred to commonly as the komadori. It's quite confusing. I looked up pictures of the Ryukyu Robin and it has more of a fletching look to it than the Japanese Robin. I honestly think it's a combination of both (which isn't surprising, considering both are very closely related and look a lot alike). Just something interesting I noticed! I'm not sure if any of this is as neat to others as it is to me. I absolutely love ornithology. :)

While I know this is a speculation thread, I just don't understand the arrows thing. Could you elaborate?

From what I can tell, it's because the tail feathers have the shape and pattern of arrow fletchings making the bird resemble an arrow in flight. Some people also think that a robin Pokemon may end up referencing Robin Hood, one of the most famous archers in European folklore.

It's not a lot to go on, but there's certainly more weight to it than the western phoenix idea (which incidentally, has no connection to robins and has been done)

Well although many pokemon do have deep thematic development in their design,movesets etc. most of the regional birds are just that, plain birds. and if it isnt the regional bird then there's no reason that the arrow idea can't coexist with the flaming robin idea. (and just so you know a confirmed move is just as much proof as tail markings). I hope i didn't just come off as too blunt but thats just my humble opinion.

And also just a random thought but... what happens if the panda is the regional "rodent" I know its highly unlikely but from the one generational release i actually followed, patrat and pidove were released at the same time?? right?? but actually the electric thing could very well be the rodent since we really don't know what exactly it is and it ISSS normal type aswell... even if it turns out to be the regional rodent i still hope its evo is the fan lizard thing.


I sort of agreed with your point that we may be looking into it a bit much in that it may just be the regional bird and no more. However, the puns on robin and Robin Hood, arrows, the tail markings, and the name (and supposed English name) are too much interwoven to ignore. You're right, the flaming robin idea can coexist with this. But a Fire type move does not justify a phoenix, you know. That's a bit overboard, when phoenixes are seen as rare creatures, thus us having one as a legendary. I don't see it gaining a Fire typing upon evolving, and if it did, I don't see it being a phoenix whatsoever. By the way, I know you didn't mention it becoming a phoenix in the post I'm quoting! :) I just saw a lot of other people saying that's what they think will happen, and for it being the regional bird, it's just not likely whatsoever and people are setting themselves up for failure.

The thing that got me about this post of yours, however, was the second paragraph you came up with. I'm saying this now so that you don't take what I'm about to say the wrong way, but what possibly made you think anything about regional rodent? I promise you I'm not trying to question your intelligence whatsoever, but the regional rodents have typically been, well, rodents. Or at least mustelids, in the case of Sentret/Furret and Zigzagoon and Linoone. All of them are rodents or mustelids! And, more importantly, NORMAL types! We have confirmation that Yancham is Fighting type. Come on now. There is nothing at all pointing at it being the regional rodent. And if Game Freak were to switch things up on us, then it wouldn't be a regional rodent! Because it would break pattern and be a Fighting type bear. And Elikiteru sure as hell won't be the regional rodent because it has an Electric typing and, you know, is reptilian and not mammalian. /: Past issues of CoroCoro don't mean anything corresponding to X&Y. This generation is being released globally at the same time. It snuck up on us. A new type is in the balance. Just because Patrat and Pidove were revealed at the same time three years ago doesn't mean that it must happen again.

I'm just asking everyone to put a little more thought into things regarding these Pokemon. Everyone is quick to scream phoenix evolution for Yayakoma. It's simply not very likely whatsoever. We have a damned phoenix. The whole Elikiteru thought of being even close to related to Mawile makes me sick. Just think about things.

Again, I'm not trying to exude a vibe of "I'm right, you're wrong, what are you thinking?" I'm just asking to generate a little more thought out ideas or theories on these recently revealed Pokemon. You shot down Winderdaze's wonderfully thought out theory on Yayakoma's design concept rather quickly all on the basis that "all regional birds are just birds." Well, Yayakoma is just a bird, you're right. But it's not a robin. It's a Japanese Robin. It's not just a bird. In its name the word arrow is evidently clear, repeated twice. The tail feathers look quite similar to the fletching of an arrow, and the presumed English name (If WPM's source is correct) point at that too. All backed up by a nice little idea that the fire move could just be an allusion to incendiary arrows and not the less likely phoenix evolution.

Sorry for my massive amounts of opinions and replies. I just had to say something. /:

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In the trailer there was that desert area with the dome-like structures, and on the revealed map, there appears to be a desert west of Miare city, So I'm thinking that Erikiteru would be found there so it can absorb the sunlight easily.

I'm thinking that that is a very good point, but, Even in a desert how would erikiteru survive. Plenty of sunlight will only go so well without water...

Keep in mind that Pokemon doesn't always correspond to the actual world as we know it. Leafeon is clearly based on a fox. Yet it's a grass type that can sustain life on solar rays alone. Do not foxes need water to survive? Of course they do, they're live mammals. But Leafeon doesn't necessarily. So why is it any different that a solar powered lizzard need anything but solar rays in a desert to live? No water must be had if it is strictly solar powered. Not all Pokemon need water. It's a video game and an imaginative world. Anything can happen. It's not a real lizard. :)
 
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In the trailer there was that desert area with the dome-like structures, and on the revealed map, there appears to be a desert west of Miare city, So I'm thinking that Erikiteru would be found there so it can absorb the sunlight easily.

I'm thinking that that is a very good point, but, Even in a desert how would erikiteru survive. Plenty of sunlight will only go so well without water...

Keep in mind that Pokemon doesn't always correspond to the actual world as we know it. Leafeon is clearly based on a fox. Yet it's a grass type that can sustain life on solar rays alone. Do not foxes need water to survive? Of course they do, they're live mammals. But Leafeon doesn't necessarily. So why is it any different that a solar powered lizzard need anything but solar rays in a desert to live? No water must be had if it is strictly solar powered. Not all Pokemon need water. It's a video game and an imaginative world. Anything can happen. It's not a real lizard. :)

That, and the fact that there are several species of reptile that live in desert areas. Unless I'm mistaken, there are more reptiles that live in arid areas than mammals due to their ability to slow down bodily functions during extended periods without rain/moisture, something that few mammals are able to do.
 

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Just because Patrat and Pidove were revealed at the same time three years ago doesn't mean that it must happen again.

Actually they weren't. Pidove was revealed in June and Patrat in July.

I'm just asking everyone to put a little more thought into things regarding these Pokemon. Everyone is quick to scream phoenix evolution for Yayakoma. It's simply not very likely whatsoever. We have a damned phoenix. The whole Elikiteru thought of being even close to related to Mawile makes me sick. Just think about things.

Not sure why you've only zoned in on that one post on the Mawile thing when there's been a really good number of posts speculating about the lizard and its potential evolution aswell as its connections to solar powered energy and electrical generators (sunyshore's post is particularly good since it covers most of everything that people have been speculating about it).
 
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From the new trailer. People can say what they will about this Pokemon, but it just gets cooler and cooler! I love it! Also the panda looked awesome, as I expected.
 

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Solar powered frilled lizards. They never cease to amaze me.
 

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From the new trailer. People can say what they will about this Pokemon, but it just gets cooler and cooler! I love it! Also the panda looked awesome, as I expected.

Hopefully the little guy will have an evolution that's even cooler.
 
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