General Discussion

[Lord Clowncrete]

Breloom is one of the better mons this gen. They regularly wreck my rain teams.-_-

 

[~Aeon]

my sun team wrecks rain teams half the time.

 

[Lord Clowncrete]

my sun team wrecks rain teams half the time.

what do you utilize?

 

[~Aeon]

can't say. it still needs some tweaking. also, i did say half the time

 

[~Aeon]

hate to double post, but if i don't, nobody would read this.

tier changes:

ubers: unchanged.

OU: unchanged

BL: deoxys-d up from UU

UU: Sharpedo, Gligar, Claydol, Honchkrow, all up from RU; Yanmega up from BL2

BL2: unchanged

RU: mespirit up from NU

NU: charizard, Ludicolo, sawsbuck, all down from RU


(Data) Smogon University PO Statistics — March 2012 - Smogon Community


charizard in NU? i don't know a thing about NU. how'll he do?

 

[Angad]

I think Charizard has finally found a place where he's good. I'm not surprised with the shifts, but it's still sad to watch Ludicolo fall so far from the beginning of the gen.

Has anyone ever tried SubPunch Azumarill w/ Rain in OU. A little underwhelming, but surprisingly good utility, considering Jellicent has dropped in usage.

 

[Matt_2_Sky]

SubPunch Azumarill doesn't sound like a bad set, however his greater use is as a Aqua Jet user in rain teams.

 

[Angad]

SubPunch Azumarill doesn't sound like a bad set, however his greater use is as a Aqua Jet user in rain teams.

It could certainly be both, albeit, it is underwhelming at times without the band.

 

[Lord Clowncrete]

Well it can lure in and ko shit like ferrothorn. It also gets 101 hp subs if it is important. Most importantly, it actually allows you to change moves. I am talking about something like sub/punch/aqua jet/ice punch.252 hp/att

 

[Angad]

Well it can lure in and ko shit like ferrothorn. It also gets 101 hp subs if it is important. Most importantly, it actually allows you to change moves. I am talking about something like sub/punch/aqua jet/ice punch.252 hp/att

I run Waterfall in place of Ice Punch in Rain, which makes me walled by D-Nite, but gives me hella power.

 

[Lord Clowncrete]

Gliscor literally centralizes the damned game around it. He is the reason why mienshao and landorus carry hp ice. He hardcounters a shit number of mons like Heracross, conky, golurk, etc. His sub + protect set is impossible to beat without skarmory or bronzong. And don't get me started on his AcroBat set which can sweep teams 6-0 by simply abusing sand veil hax. And the worst part is that while Skarm and Rotom can defeat some sets, they can't defeat all.

 

[GengarEatBanana]

Gliscor literally centralizes the damned game around it. He is the reason why mienshao and landorus carry hp ice. He hardcounters a shit number of mons like Heracross, conky, golurk, etc. His sub + protect set is impossible to beat without skarmory or bronzong. And don't get me started on his AcroBat set which can sweep teams 6-0 by simply abusing sand veil hax. And the worst part is that while Skarm and Rotom can defeat some sets, they can't defeat all.

Gliscor is actually my most feared Pokemon when battling, not Scizor or Rotom-W or any of the other top 6 Pokemon. It literally is so annoying when he/she Toxic Stalls me or just wrecks my teams with one of the other sets.

 

[Lord Clowncrete]

Gliscor literally centralizes the damned game around it. He is the reason why mienshao and landorus carry hp ice. He hardcounters a shit number of mons like Heracross, conky, golurk, etc. His sub + protect set is impossible to beat without skarmory or bronzong. And don't get me started on his AcroBat set which can sweep teams 6-0 by simply abusing sand veil hax. And the worst part is that while Skarm and Rotom can defeat some sets, they can't defeat all.

Gliscor is actually my most feared Pokemon when battling, not Scizor or Rotom-W or any of the other top 6 Pokemon. It literally is so annoying when he/she Toxic Stalls me or just wrecks my teams with one of the other sets.

And boy, team that bat with celebi and heatran and witness an extremely effective defensive core stall you out.

 

[Angad]

Gliscor is a nuisance, but it is hardly overcentralizing.

 

[Iteru]

I'm really loving Shed Skin Scrafty at the moment which I decided to use after Sharking mentioned having success with it, but with Dragon Tail over Crunch (I'm a stall/hazards kinda guy). People really don't know how to handle it and when they see Bulk Up think its going to be easy to deal with special attackers, but the investment in special defence really pays off. It's won me quite a few matches to date, with some of my losses being attributed to Substitute Gengar causing issues and getting very lucky with Focus Blast hits.

 

[Lord Clowncrete]

I'm really loving Shed Skin Scrafty at the moment which I decided to use after Sharking mentioned having success with it, but with Dragon Tail over Crunch (I'm a stall/hazards kinda guy). People really don't know how to handle it and when they see Bulk Up think its going to be easy to deal with special attackers, but the investment in special defence really pays off. It's won me quite a few matches to date, with some of my losses being attributed to Substitute Gengar causing issues and getting very lucky with Focus Blast hits.

I remember suggesting d-tail somewhere in the past but everybody was so busy fangasming over his coverage that they forgot that scrafty can be set-up on simultaneously by conkeldurr. Anyway, one thing I don't like about Scrafty is how he needs atleast a couple of turns to become threatening. And while his special defense is incredible, I find him vulnerable to trick and uber powerful moves like draco meteor. I never have problems with it maybe because most players I have encountered send it very early on.