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Generation 8 Rumours/Fakes/Leaks

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TheMonster6893

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Listen....... people need to stop comparing Zeraora with [email protected] The major difference is that one was put in a game that was going to have another follow it within the same gen. The other is a Pokemon that was put into the final game of it's gen. It's one thing for them to out new forms into a game that will be in focused on in the next set of both games are in the same gen. It's an entirely different thing for them to out a while Pokemon WITH a Pokedex entry into a game. Zeraora is a gen 7 Pokemon....if it wasn't it wouldn't be in the code.
 

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I like the idea of the Lugia Zeraora fusion idea. I either pray for fusion, or even some power armor someday in the franchise
 

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I just seen the tweet myself, and I really think people need to stop getting the concept of "rework/revisit" mixed up with "remake".

Listen. Game Freak would obviously not start off a new Generation with a remake. A reboot or a rework of an older region? Maybe, we just don't know. Judging by the reactions in this thread alone, I'm surprised that the poll question he asked shows more favorability to it than against it. How many of you would honestly up and leave the franchise if this were to actually happen? Not this chick.

If the Switch game is a complete reboot and retcons all of the currently known Pokemon out of continuity, then I'm leaving the series. There's no way Game Freak is convincing me. That will be the straw that breaks the Camerupt's break. But if it's a Kanto Remake with 800+ Pokémon still in it, then probably not. I'll likely get it. But I don't know. It seems like Game Freak tends to draw me in like a sheep for every single title no matter how bad of a reaction it gets in the community. A lot of people I know think Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon suck, I get that. With the modern thing called DLC, a lot of people feel that titles in the vein of Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum are outdated and a cheap "cash cow" approach. But when Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were announced, I was actually really excited. I was just happy to have another title. I'm sure that it'll be the same with the Switch games despite all my worries about the battle system.
 

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Listen....... people need to stop comparing Zeraora with [email protected] The major difference is that one was put in a game that was going to have another follow it within the same gen. The other is a Pokemon that was put into the final game of it's gen. It's one thing for them to out new forms into a game that will be in focused on in the next set of both games are in the same gen. It's an entirely different thing for them to out a while Pokemon WITH a Pokedex entry into a game. Zeraora is a gen 7 Pokemon....if it wasn't it wouldn't be in the code.
The thing is that it has not been announced yet, so, actually, is not even a pokemon for the moment or is an AZ Floette 2.0 OR Game Freak coded it in Ultra sun and moon and then decided to keep it for Gen 8 because Nintendo made pressure for new games release.
Now, I know nothing of that has happened or will happen. It's just speculation...if you want people to stop speculating then we should just stop talking and wait in silence for the true--->not pokemon fans.
 

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Guys, Zerora is and will always be a Gen 7 mon.

Yes. I agree completely. Also @Desdar300, what are your thoughts about Pixelpar's latest question on Twitter? Do you think that he knows more about the Switch games than you or @lavandula's sources do and that the games will be a Kanto Remake or that it was just an innocent question that he had?
 

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Yes. I agree completely. Also @Desdar300, what are your thoughts about Pixelpar's latest question on Twitter? Do you think that he knows more about the Switch games than you or @lavandula's sources do and that the games will be a Kanto Remake or that it was just an innocent question that he had?
It's an innocent question imo. He has leaked things in the past so why bother to "hide" leaks now? He knows people can get to fast conclusions after the cell-shaded leak so if he wanted to tell something new he could have done another leak like the last one.
 

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People who think the switch game will be kanto don't know how game freak works.
new hardware=new region with new pokemon.
they will NEVER start a new hardware with a remake so people need to stop thinking about it as a option, it's not.

I said they obviously won't start it with a remake. You're taking the wording and concept of rework (which was in the tweet) and turning it into remake. A remake and a rework/revisit are not the same thing, how many times do I gotta explain this? And who said that I necessarily want a Kanto anything? All I'm doing is trying to get the point across that a revisit with a brand-new story is NOT a goddamn remake. Please understand.

A remake is obviously not an option, but a reboot/rework/revisit is. And for the record, I'm open to anything so I think a southeastern Asia, Italy, Spain, wherever, is just as possible or even likely.
 

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It's an innocent question imo. He has leaked things in the past so why bother to "hide" leaks now? He knows people can get to fast conclusions after the cell-shaded leak so if he wanted to tell something new he could have done another leak like the last one.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to assume. If it was a leak, I feel that he would straight out tell us at this point.
 

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What does it matter what "generation" a pokemon is from?
In this case Zeraora is crucial. If it's a gen 7 pokemon (as it is), Gen 8 cannot be announced until Zeraora is revealed. If it's a gen 8 pokemon (which it's not) its reveal and the reveal of Gen 8 will coincide or be really close as it happened with Magearna. The problem is that it has not been announced yet and we have never had mid gen pokemon before, so we don't know what the hell GF is gonna do with Zeraora.
This is also why we are all hoping they will reveal it as soon as possible, whatever generation it is in (7, btw)
 

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I said they obviously won't start it with a remake. You're taking the wording and concept of rework (which was in the tweet) and turning it into remake. A remake and a rework/revisit are not the same thing, how many times do I gotta explain this? And who said that I necessarily want a Kanto anything? All I'm doing is trying to get the point across that a revisit with a brand-new story is NOT a goddamn remake. Please understand.

A remake is obviously not an option, but a reboot/rework/revisit is. And for the record, I'm open to anything so I think a southeastern Asia, Italy, Spain, wherever, is just as possible or even likely.
i didn't even read your post.. so i don't know what you talking about.
 

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i didn't even read your post.. so i don't know what you talking about.

You expect me to believe that? I can tell when a post is directed at me when the person isn't even quoting me. I'm not stupid. I don't expect you to change your mind and I'm not forcing you to think anything, so what gives you the right to tell me and other people to stop thinking about the possibility of this game being a revisit/reboot of Kanto? Also, what gives you the right to say it will never happen when Game Freak have obviously broken tradition here and there? The new UB's that were introduced in USUM and the Trials in place of Gyms are prime examples of this, and I'm getting sick and tired of people refusing to acknowledge this.
 

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You expect me to believe that? I can tell when a post is directed at me when the person isn't even quoting me. I'm not stupid. I don't expect you to change your mind and I'm not forcing you to think anything, so what gives you the right to tell me and other people to stop thinking about the possibility of this game being a revisit/reboot of Kanto? Also, what gives you the right to say it will never happen when Game Freak have obviously broken tradition here and there? The new UB's that were introduced in USUM and the Trials in place of Gyms are prime examples of this, and I'm getting sick and tired of people refusing to acknowledge this.
The funny thing is that we were not even expecting USUM to be a thing even if they did it before with crystal/emerald etc. We were expecting Z and they didn't do it, we wanted a switch sequel for s/m and they gave us a couple of third versions on 3ds with mid gen pokemon. I think it's safe to assume that GF has killed any possibility of being predictable, which is a good thing. Let's hope they'll do the same with the switch titles (which I now decided to call "the switches" XD).
I also understand people saying that something won't happen because of past experiences. It's basically all we have always had as a reference for future games.
Now I suggest to calm down and keep speculating, remembering that we can rationally talk about what we expect to happen but also accepting that actually anything can happen.
 
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Pokemon no longer define a generation, that ship has sailed. I'm tempted to say that there isn't a definition purely because I feel like whatever we say will be changed at some point. Again, we do not have the capability of defining what a pokemon game is. I am done with debates about this. I am killing this term now before it gets too messy.
 
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You expect me to believe that? I can tell when a post is directed at me when the person isn't even quoting me. I'm not stupid.
i don't care if you believe or not, i don't know what the fuck are you talking about it.
the post was to people who keep thinking we getting kanto remake in general, like a lot here and not only you.
so move on..
 

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Listen....... people need to stop comparing Zeraora with [email protected] The major difference is that one was put in a game that was going to have another follow it within the same gen. The other is a Pokemon that was put into the final game of it's gen. It's one thing for them to out new forms into a game that will be in focused on in the next set of both games are in the same gen. It's an entirely different thing for them to out a while Pokemon WITH a Pokedex entry into a game. Zeraora is a gen 7 Pokemon....if it wasn't it wouldn't be in the code.
I think the argument people are making is that they wouldn’t code Zeraora into Gen 7 and not use it until later generations cause it “hasn’t happened before, however another argument would be Zygardes moves complete with 3d animation, damage, pp, and everything else that makes up a move but it never showed up until a Gen later in Sun/Moon
 

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I think the argument people are making is that they wouldn’t code Zeraora into Gen 7 and not use it until later generations cause it “hasn’t happened before, however another argument would be Zygardes moves complete with 3d animation, damage, pp, and everything else that makes up a move but it never showed up until a Gen later in Sun/Moon
Even if Zeraora is not distributed in Gen 7 and is in 8 it would still be a Gen 7 pokemon. It is in the Pokedex after all.
 
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