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Generation 8 Rumours/Fakes/Leaks

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Jukain

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Right now, all I want is the truth, and I haven't seen that yet. I await that to happen.

(This is not to bash the leakers, but I will only believe something when I see it)
 

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I don't want to live on this planet anymore

Then do yourself a favour and re-read our actual discussion. I have quoted you numerous times on what your literal statement was. Obviously, a change to the battle system is big, however, you literally said why should they change anything at all if after 22 years they are still making money. Besides, some of the changes I mentioned are big. You originally never implied why change the battle system specifically, but why change anything in general. Hence my original comment.

Now, talking specifically about the battle system (which you should have specified from the beginning), there are numerous reasons why they might want to change it. Pokemon is now moving from handheld consoles to handheld/home consoles. We are now getting Pokemon on home console power. They have potential to create more changes with these newest games than all other changes combined. So why not freshen it up? A real time battle system would be difficult to implement with hundreds and hundreds of Pokemon on a handheld, but on a home console? much more possible.

This is not to say I believe they will change it. Personally, I'll be happy either way. I enjoy the current turn based battles, but I'd also be fine with real time battles.
 

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Then do yourself a favour and re-read our actual discussion. I have quoted you numerous times on what your literal statement was. Obviously, a change to the battle system is big, however, you literally said why should they change anything at all if after 22 years they are still making money. Besides, some of the changes I mentioned are big. You originally never implied why change the battle system specifically, but why change anything in general. Hence my original comment.
But after that i also said changes can be good, trail and ride pokemon are not big as battle system change, but you just keep ignoring it and keep saying that i don't want changes at all.
and where did i said " don't change ANYTHING"? i can't recall that one...
 

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Now, talking specifically about the battle system (which you should have specified from the beginning), there are numerous reasons why they might want to change it. Pokemon is now moving from handheld consoles to handheld/home consoles. We are now getting Pokemon on home console power. They have potential to create more changes with these newest games than all other changes combined. So why not freshen it up? A real time battle system would be difficult to implement with hundreds and hundreds of Pokemon on a handheld, but on a home console? much more possible.
Just because the system is more powerful doesn't mean that they have to change everything. This would be change for the sake of change, and I don't think that's a good idea.
 

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Yep, they were shown some popular online comments about people wanting a huge open world Pokemon game with a similar scope to BOTW and they replied in the interview not to expect something quite so drastic.
I don't really think you should expect something like that anyways. Just because it's made for a home console does not mean that it will have a large open world, real time battles, and all that stuff.
 

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While I was napping, I had a dream zeraora was revealed
I've been reading this forum the past few nights and just last night when I went to sleep, I dreamt that Gamefreak and TPCi announced both new games, forgot what was the title, but both cover Legendaries had interchangeable forms (kinda like slide evolution from digimon?) and there was game footage. And in my dream, they announced a remake of Pokemon Yellow for 3DS/2DS.

p.s. I really need to stop reading this before i sleep.

Also, this was just my dream, please don't flame me. :unsure:
 

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Just because the system is more powerful doesn't mean that they have to change everything. This would be change for the sake of change, and I don't think that's a good idea.
Actually it wouldnt be change for the sake of change, it would be progress. Since the begining they have been trying to make things more lively and real. When color finally came out, sprites where no longer colourless. Then sprites gradually improved and finally in Black and White they where animated. Then X and Y made the leap to 3D models and since its been future proofed, it is likely to stay. Right now graphics in Pokemon are at its peak, they cant progress much farther with it (unless they want to make super realistic models), now its time to make battles more lively. They did that with weather and terrain, then in X and Y with in battle form changes, then in Sun and Moon with super flashy moves. Dropping the turn based system would be the next step and would create a much more lively Pokemon...

The battle system has been the same for the last 20 years, I think right now would be the perfect time for an upgrade
 

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I don't really think you should expect something like that anyways. Just because it's made for a home console does not mean that it will have a large open world, real time battles, and all that stuff.
I agree. There's no need. Just take the best Pokemon games we've had so far, put all their best features and content together, and do a little upscaling and new content.
 
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Right now graphics in Pokemon are at its peak, they cant progress much farther with it (unless they want to make super realistic models), now its time to make battles more lively. They did that with weather and terrain, then in X and Y with in battle form changes, then in Sun and Moon with super flashy moves. Dropping the turn based system would be the next step and would create a much more lively Pokemon...
That's not comparable, because graphic changes are purely aesthetic, while changes to the battle system alter gameplay mechanics. There's a difference between changing a black-and-white film to a color film and changing a comedy film to a horror film, for example.
 

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Just because the system is more powerful doesn't mean that they have to change everything. This would be change for the sake of change, and I don't think that's a good idea.

Did you even read what I said? Not once did I say they will change everything. Technically, I never even said they'll change anything at all.

But after that i also said changes can be good, trail and ride pokemon are not big as battle system change, but you just keep ignoring it and keep saying that i don't want changes at all.
and where did i said " don't change ANYTHING"? i can't recall that one...

I ignored the rest of what you said because it was unrelated to my actual argument. Once again, I'll quote you. " Why change ANYTHING that makes them a ton of money for 22 years." That is what your quote said, and that is specifically what I have been referencing this entire time. The rest of your argument has nothing to do with it. I understand you added more to it afterwards, but that is not what I am discussing.
 

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Wow, that was amazing, it saved me a lot of work. Thanks for summarizing.

But just out of curiosity: does anyone noticed something missing in this summary about the Italian translator leak?

edit: corrected the sentence.

He says and shows some more detailed stuff about the translation process.
 

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I don't really think you should expect something like that anyways. Just because it's made for a home console does not mean that it will have a large open world, real time battles, and all that stuff.

Maybe if you're talking about something like say, Mario Kart or Smash, where the core appeal of the game has nothing to do with exploration. It'd be ridiculous to expect games like that to go open world (and for those two in particular it wouldn't even work). But for a game like Pokemon, where a core part of the game is navigating through a large region, open world is a perfectly sensible gameplay improvement. And the standard for exploration based adventure games like Pokemon has been open world, or at the very least sandbox. Pretty much every adventure game on the Switch, especially the large retail games, have been at that level. It's not the fans' fault for expecting that when that's what everyone else is doing, it's Game Freak's fault for not being able to rise to that level. If someone wants to make a movie but they can't set aside the time/money to make a lengthy, big budget feature film, is the audience really going to be all that sympathetic to the production company? Nope, they're just going to be unsatisfied with the results and wonder why they bothered making a movie in the first place. Similarly with Game Freak, the circumstances behind their inability to produce a full console scale game aren't really going to matter, it's still going to be a disappointment regardless because they're failing to keep up with the rest of the industry.
 

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I ignored the rest of what you said because it was unrelated to my actual argument. Once again, I'll quote you. " Why change ANYTHING that makes them a ton of money for 22 years." That is what your quote said, and that is specifically what I have been referencing this entire time. The rest of your argument has nothing to do with it. I understand you added more to it afterwards, but that is not what I am discussing.
no i didn't, i said "SOMETHING that gives you ton of money for 22 years", you changed just to prove your point.. wow.
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I can compete with it because i'm using logic, why change something that gives you ton of money for 22 years?
 
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