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Generation 8 Rumours/Fakes/Leaks

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Honestly with everything that we've seen from trusted sources it's not too out there he might in fact be real. Like Lavandula said nothing he said has contradicted what we've heard and on top of that he's been both consistent and realistic in what he's said. Again idk why you keep harping on it not being Kanto. It's already been explained that the region won't be Kanto and that the only reason some potential sources thought it might be was because they saw a decent amount of references to it. You keep acting like the info we keep getting is pointing to a return to Kanto when in fact nothing at all leads us to believe that. lol

I know. I just got really nervous the day that Pixelpar asked that question: "What would your reaction be if Pokémon Switch turned out to be an early gen rework?" Then @lavandula said that it wasn't an innocent question and that the games are "nomically" remakes. But she saids that we now have newer information that suggest it isn't quite a remake. What does "nomically" mean anyways? I wasn't sure and I tried looking it up online but my results on it came up empty. Anyways, I hope the region isn't in Kanto. Even if it is, it's not good to rush to judgement and think that it's going to be a terrible game right way. I really want to try and see the first Switch games' trailer before I make that call. I also think this Italian translator leak really has the potential to be real. It's best that we keep an eye on him. Then again, this could all be an elaborate made up scheme. People can say anything they want on the internet. This guy just seems the most believable of all the leakers so far because he has really done his homework and @lavandula can't debunk him, which is unusual. She's usually very quick to debunk leaks.
 

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I know. I just got really nervous the day that Pixelpar asked that question: "What would your reaction be if Pokémon Switch turned out to be an early gen rework?" Then @lavandula said that it wasn't an innocent question and that the games are "nomically" remakes. But she saids that we now have newer information that suggest it isn't quite a remake. What does "nomically" mean anyways? I wasn't sure and I tried looking it up online but my results on it came up empty. Anyways, I hope the region isn't in Kanto. Even if it is, it's not good to rush to judgement and think that it's going to be a terrible game right way. I really want to try and see the first Switch games' trailer before I make that call. I also think this Italian translator leak really has the potential to be real. It's best that we keep an eye on him. Then again, this could all be an elaborate made up scheme. People can say anything they want on the internet. This guy just seems the most believable of all the leakers so far because he has really done his homework and @lavandula can't debunk him, which is unusual. She's usually very quick to debunk leaks.

She said "nominally" not "nomically". And "nominally" means "in name only". So honestly we might get a game that for all intents and purposes IS a rework of gen 1, but takes place in a completely new region and has new Pokemon. Just because they draw inspiration from Kanto doesn't mean it has to take place there. With everything we've heard from our sources it doesn't seem out of the question that the new region may be very similar to Kanto in many ways even if it's just a little. As for the Italian translator like both me and Lava said there aren't many holes in what he's saying. He could very well just be very detailed and careful about what he says as to not show he's fake, but that's the kind of focus we don't often see in fakes. Even convincing leaks like those starters from a couple of weeks ago had errors that were easily identifiable. This however is much harder. We shall see, but if he is in fact real we may know soon enough. Which incidentally lines up with what I've been theorizing. We still need Zeraora, but other than that I've been thinking a March announcement is not too crazy. Maybe we'll get a title announcement and then they'll wait a few months for e3 to show us anything significant.
 

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She said "nominally" not "nomically". And "nominally" means "in name only". So honestly we might get a game that for all intents and purposes IS a rework of gen 1, but takes place in a completely new region and has new Pokemon. Just because they draw inspiration from Kanto doesn't mean it has to take place there. With everything we've heard from our sources it doesn't seem out of the question that the new region may be very similar to Kanto in many ways even if it's just a little. As for the Italian translator like both me and Lava said there aren't many holes in what he's saying. He could very well just be very detailed and careful about what he says as to not show he's fake, but that's the kind of focus we don't often see in fakes. Even convincing leaks like those starters from a couple of weeks ago had errors that were easily identifiable. This however is much harder. We shall see, but if he is in fact real we may know soon enough. Which incidentally lines up with what I've been theorizing. We still need Zeraora, but other than that I've been thinking a March announcement is not too crazy. Maybe we'll get a title announcement and then they'll wait a few months for e3 to show us anything significant.

I hope that nominally just means what it says that we get a new region with new Pokémon but just loaded with Kanto references. Just a matter of time I feel before all the pieces start to fall together. We'll soon know what is real and what is fiction. I'm starting to get a little impatient I have to admit but I suppose that is normal. Most of us on here are really excited. I hope that we get Zeroara revealed soon and out of the way for a Generation 8 announcement. Perhaps in next month's CoroCoro? Although they said that the news would pertain to Lugia, so it doesn't make sense for them to reveal Zeroara based on what they said. But maybe it's Lugia's role in the movie and that it and Zeroara are part of the plot. Which I have a feeling that Zeroara will be in the movie based on the pattern with Marshadow in the I Choose You! movie last year. There's also a chance Zeroara might get revealed in April. That's when Marshadow was revealed.
 

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She said "nominally" not "nomically". And "nominally" means "in name only". So honestly we might get a game that for all intents and purposes IS a rework of gen 1, but takes place in a completely new region and has new Pokemon. Just because they draw inspiration from Kanto doesn't mean it has to take place there. With everything we've heard from our sources it doesn't seem out of the question that the new region may be very similar to Kanto in many ways even if it's just a little.

I see what you mean and it's kinda interesting. I also do worry about the potential backlash that could occur with the inevitable "Kanto clone" complaints if this kind of thing does happen, which I can totally understand.

One way I could see them doing this is having the new Rainbow Rocket as the antagonists, but with new Admins under Giovanni instead of the other team leaders. The only thing that I'm a little worried about is exploration and how it'll be handled. I felt like the only place in Alola that felt fun to explore was Poni Island, other than that the whole region of Alola felt small compared to past regions.
 
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I see what you mean and it's kinda interesting. I also do worry about the potential backlash that could occur with the inevitable "Kanto clone" complaints if this kind of thing does happen, which I can totally understand.

One way I could see them doing this is having the new Rainbow Rocket as the antagonists, but with new Admins under Giovanni instead of the other team leaders. The only thing that I'm a little worried about is exploration and how it'll be handled. I felt like the only place in Alola that felt fun to explore was Poni Island, other than that the whole region of Alola felt small compared to past regions.

I imagine if it is in some way related to Kanto in anyway it won't be a 1:1 clone. More like just a butt ton of references. I recall someone a few pages back likening it to a mix between gen 5 and 6 potentially where they have brand new Pokemon that are similar to older Pokemon and then also possibly have some new areas that look like old areas too. All still being brand new tho. Could be interesting. Especially if the story is much more involved like we've heard. As for exploration, if the Italian translator is real it sounds like there may be some pretty expansive portions of the region. Could entail some decent exploration. We won't know until we see it tho.
 

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I imagine if it is in some way related to Kanto in anyway it won't be a 1:1 clone. More like just a butt ton of references. I recall someone a few pages back likening it to a mix between gen 5 and 6 potentially where they have brand new Pokemon that are similar to older Pokemon and then also possibly have some new areas that look like old areas too. All still being brand new tho. Could be interesting. Especially if the story is much more involved like we've heard. As for exploration, if the Italian translator is real it sounds like there may be some pretty expansive portions of the region. Could entail some decent exploration. We won't know until we see it tho.
It may also be a what if universe. A region we have had in past but with totally different events. This was the direction they took with Rainbow Rocket. I still wanna think new region leak is real anyway...
 

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Plenty of countries have Islands. Not just sri Lanka.

Referring to a big island and a smaller island actually sounds more like the UK.

Canada also has famous island regions.
 

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It may also be a what if universe. A region we have had in past but with totally different events. This was the direction they took with Rainbow Rocket. I still wanna think new region leak is real anyway...

That's also a very good possibility. It could be an alternate universe version of Kanto. It may not be named Kanto or have the same Pokemon, but maybe there are hints within the game that eventually lead the player to have that "ah-ha! moment" of "hey this is Kanto!!" That would certainly allow them to do as much new stuff with it as they want, but still be able to harp on the old region as much as they want as well.
 

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Plenty of countries have Islands. Not just sri Lanka.

Referring to a big island and a smaller island actually sounds more like the UK.

Canada also has famous island regions.
Well, actually Italy is a peninsula with an island (Sardinia) too and it (or Spain) was supposed to be the new region some time ago.
The thing is that the Italian Leaker infos seems to point directly to India + Sri Lanka: typical food (most important), jungle, island + possibly main land.
 

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I'm not entirely sure I understand why people are so against a Sri Lanka/Indian region. If you're ok with Spain or Italy then South East Asia should be fine too. Italy and Spain are also pretty warm countries. The only difference it that they're connected to a large land mass. (which India is too actually) They're still on the Mediterranean sea which is known for having a very warm climate. Also it's already been explained that the region likely wouldn't be exclusively Sri Lank and thus not making it solely an island. On top of that both Sri Lanka and India have more than just warm parts. They both have mountainous areas as well. India even boarders the Himalayas. Plus the climate of Hawaii isn't exactly like South East Asia. Just because the two places are in hotter climates doesn't mean they'll be exactly the same. There are different kinds of hot climates. some warm and dry while other warm and wet.
 

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I'm not entirely sure I understand why people are so against a Sri Lanka/Indian region.
Here's my reasons for disliking a India/Sri Lanka region.

1. Not very well known (Sri Lanka is barely heard of )
2. Lack of biome variety (If this turns out to be true, this would be the fourth game in a row set in a tropical area, and I'm bored to death of those)
3. It could potentially offend people (If they decide to incorporate Hinduism into the games, it could be seen as offensive to some people, leading to bad PR)
 
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Here's my reasons for disliking a India/Sri Lanka region.

1. Not very well known (Sri Lanka is barely heard of and India is mostly only known by people who are film buffs or work in the IT industry)
2. Lack of biome variety (If this turns out to be true, this would be the fourth game in a row set in a tropical area, and I'm bored to death of those)
3. It could potentially offend people (If they decide to incorporate Hinduism into the games, it could be seen as offensive to some people, leading to bad PR)
you suppose people react hyper sensitive ¿how you take game freak? ¿you believe game freak be offend someone? have many years and learn of mistakes and tries dont have any problem but i believe these people knows makes games and worlds when you wan live in if you consider be offensive touch his beliefs or his religion overall its something out my mind but i dont let this statement in future because maybe you be right and once again game freak enters in problems
 

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I'm not entirely sure I understand why people are so against a Sri Lanka/Indian region. If you're ok with Spain or Italy then South East Asia should be fine too. Italy and Spain are also pretty warm countries. The only difference it that they're connected to a large land mass. (which India is too actually) They're still on the Mediterranean sea which is known for having a very warm climate. Also it's already been explained that the region likely wouldn't be exclusively Sri Lank and thus not making it solely an island. On top of that both Sri Lanka and India have more than just warm parts. They both have mountainous areas as well. India even boarders the Himalayas. Plus the climate of Hawaii isn't exactly like South East Asia. Just because the two places are in hotter climates doesn't mean they'll be exactly the same. There are different kinds of hot climates. some warm and dry while other warm and wet.
Well, I'm from Italy and while it's true, the climate is temperate and usually warm, Italy itself has a lot of different landscapes. You can find heavy snow in the north during winter and really hot in the south during the summer. We also have plenty of mountains such as beaches/coasts and grasslands, volcanos here and there. Let's say we have a bit of everything you can look for. Come visit XD

Here's my reasons for disliking a India/Sri Lanka region.

1. Not very well known (Sri Lanka is barely heard of and India is mostly only known by people who are film buffs or work in the IT industry)
2. Lack of biome variety (If this turns out to be true, this would be the fourth game in a row set in a tropical area, and I'm bored to death of those)
3. It could potentially offend people (If they decide to incorporate Hinduism into the games, it could be seen as offensive to some people, leading to bad PR)

The last point is a bit too much. GF may have many problems with games but I don't think we should assume they could offend Hinduism even if they decide to put it in the game.
 

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Here's my reasons for disliking a India/Sri Lanka region.

1. Not very well known (Sri Lanka is barely heard of and India is mostly only known by people who are film buffs or work in the IT industry)
2. Lack of biome variety (If this turns out to be true, this would be the fourth game in a row set in a tropical area, and I'm bored to death of those)
3. It could potentially offend people (If they decide to incorporate Hinduism into the games, it could be seen as offensive to some people, leading to bad PR)

I mean doesn't making a region out an unknown country actually make it a little more exciting? It would mean we don't really know what to expect out of it.. Also as far as biomes are concerned again the region might not be exclusively Sir Lank. India boarders the Himalayas which add something different than hot a humid to the mix. They could also take liberties with the region as well.

Unrelated to what we've been talking about supposedly that LeakiLeaks guy is back and saying something is coming very soon. even possibly this week. I'm not 100% sure I'd buy that, but who knows. I'm still trying to dig up the exact post he said this so please bear with me for now.
 

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Here's my reasons for disliking a India/Sri Lanka region.

1. Not very well known (Sri Lanka is barely heard of and India is mostly only known by people who are film buffs or work in the IT industry)
2. Lack of biome variety (If this turns out to be true, this would be the fourth game in a row set in a tropical area, and I'm bored to death of those)
3. It could potentially offend people (If they decide to incorporate Hinduism into the games, it could be seen as offensive to some people, leading to bad PR)

1. Do you mean by the videogame industry or people in general? Because if you'e talking about people in general not knowing about India, that's incredibly ignorant and quite possibly more offensive than the religious references that you're worried about.

2. India also has deserts and the Himilayan mountain range, which has some of the highest peaks in the world.

3. Too bad. When Pokemon first came out 20+ years ago, Jewish and Christian folks were offended but that didn't stop Pokemon from growing into what it is today. I'm also pretty sure Game Freak are mindful about trying not to offend people to the point that it'll hurt the whole franchise.
 

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I think India is more credible than Sri Lanka. PokeSirena/Lavandula said she can't debunk anything the Italian guy claims, Nintendo are trying to increase their presence in India apparently, and it's a bit more on the level of Japan/America/France etc, whereas Sri Lanka would be a bit obscure.

So if this was a betting shop, I'd probably have India as the bookies favourite right about now. Although India does have a lot of political disputes and tension in the area to do with China, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Maybe they just focused on the southern bit and as others have speculated Sri Lanka is just an island in the wider region.
 

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Here's my reasons for disliking a India/Sri Lanka region.

1. Not very well known (Sri Lanka is barely heard of and India is mostly only known by people who are film buffs or work in the IT industry)
2. Lack of biome variety (If this turns out to be true, this would be the fourth game in a row set in a tropical area, and I'm bored to death of those)
3. It could potentially offend people (If they decide to incorporate Hinduism into the games, it could be seen as offensive to some people, leading to bad PR)

1. This... just isn't true, and reveals some personal bias on your part, I feel. Just in the US, Indian Americans are a huge and influential part of the population. There are a lot of British people of Indian descent as well, and India is a fairly common travel destination. And I don't think it's safe to assume anything about a country's cultural impact just from a Western perspective, or even from a Western perspective's estimation of which countries a Japanese company might be interested in.

Moreover, I'm not sure why it matters if the location is more obscure. Kalos and Alola have been more upfront about their inspirations, but the first five regions being specifically based on anywhere at all is something only superfans are going to be aware of. Most players Western players never knew that Red and Blue were based on anywhere in the world.

2. I don't actually know much about this, but people have been quick to point out the Himalayas.

3. Were the Tapus bad PR? I don't remember an uproar about that, and that seems to closest analogue to something like you're imagining.
 
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