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Generation 8 Rumours/Fakes/Leaks

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VelVoxelRaptor

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I think India is more credible than Sri Lanka. PokeSirena/Lavandula said she can't debunk anything the Italian guy claims, Nintendo are trying to increase their presence in India apparently, and it's a bit more on the level of Japan/America/France etc, whereas Sri Lanka would be a bit obscure.

So if this was a betting shop, I'd probably have India as the bookies favourite right about now. Although India does have a lot of political disputes and tension in the area to do with China, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Maybe they just focused on the southern bit and as others have speculated Sri Lanka is just an island in the wider region.
Or maybe its both? The leak did say there was reference to a "Big Island" which is why combined with Kottu seems to hint at Sir Lanka
 

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Or maybe its both? The leak did say there was reference to a "Big Island" which is why combined with Kottu seems to hint at Sir Lanka

That's what I meant by Sri Lanka as an island in the wider region. Although a separate country to India in real life, it could theoretically be grouped with India/South India as 1 region in the games, similar to how some theories on a UK region occasionally include Ireland too. Ireland on its own would be obscure (not to mention difficult politically with NI ), but as part of a joint UK region would go nicely.
 

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I think India is more credible than Sri Lanka. PokeSirena/Lavandula said she can't debunk anything the Italian guy claims, Nintendo are trying to increase their presence in India apparently, and it's a bit more on the level of Japan/America/France etc, whereas Sri Lanka would be a bit obscure.

So if this was a betting shop, I'd probably have India as the bookies favourite right about now. Although India does have a lot of political disputes and tension in the area to do with China, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Maybe they just focused on the southern bit and as others have speculated Sri Lanka is just an island in the wider region.
I'm still a bit suspicious about that leaker. He gave too many info about himself. He may be a translator (maybe he actually worked for USUM and Xenoblade) and this is why he did so well with all the translation info. Just think about it, he said:
- He is italian.
- He is a translator, aired in Germany.
- He and his team received 40k words to translate.
- He works on an early part of the script (starters, jungle, silvan, fat grass snorlax, starters description, arena stuff).
- He doesn't live in Italy, he has lived in France and Japan.
- He even published screens of the script he has.
- He worked for 3 and a half years as web Manager for a marketing society and for some videogame society (App store), then for UsUm and Xenoblade translation.

I mean, if the ninjas didn't find him there'll be a reason, cause he is screaming at loud to be found.
 

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1. This... just isn't true, and reveals some personal bias on your part, I feel. Just in the US, Indian Americans are a huge and influential part of the population. There are a lot of British people of Indian descent as well, and India is a fairly common travel destination. And I don't think it's safe to assume anything about a country's cultural impact just from a Western perspective, or even from a Western perspective's estimation of which countries a Japanese company might be interested in.

Moreover, I'm not sure why it matters if the location is more obscure. Kalos and Alola have been more upfront about their inspirations, but the first five regions being specifically based on anywhere at all is something only superfans are going to be aware of. Most players Western players never knew that Red and Blue were based on anywhere in the world.

2. I don't actually know much about this, but people have been quick to point out the Himalayas.

3. Were the Tapus bad PR? I don't remember an uproar about that, and that seems to closest analogue to something like you're imagining.

1. The thing about it being obscure is more towards Sri Lanka than India.
2. Alola also had its token desert and mountain area, but it was mostly bright and sandy beaches and tropical forests. This region will mostly be the same.
3. You're comparing ancient tribal beliefs that have been dead for centuries and were isolated to one geographical area to a major religion that has adherents worldwide. That comparison doesn't make any sense.
 

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@Defiant Agreed. Sri Lanka is too obscure for a Pokemon region, Game Freak is likely going to want to prioritize countries and cultures that are well known to people all around the world. Countries like Britain, Spain, Italy, Egypt, China, India, etc. that everyone knows. I can see Sri Lanka as being part of an Indian region but not its own thing. Too few people know anything about Sri Lanka for it to be an appealing locale for its own Pokemon region.

3. You're comparing ancient tribal beliefs that have been dead for centuries and were isolated to one geographical area to a major religion that has adherents worldwide. That comparison doesn't make any sense.

Hinduism isn't really a worldwide religion either, its followers are mostly in Southeast Asia IIRC. It's a more popular and well known religion for sure and they should definitely try to avoid offending them, but to call it a "major religion that has adherents worldwide" is slightly inaccurate.
 

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While Hinduism isn't geographically well spread, it is the world's 3rd biggest religion. While some religions don't mind representations of their gods (Christianity, Judaism etc) others do (Islam f.e). I'm not sure how Hindus would react to their Gods being Pokemon.
 

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When this thread becoming religion discuss thread...? ¿you heard pokemon somewhere? since 3 pages i read this keywords
>Hinduism
>Offensive
>Sri Lanka
pokemon has gone and this becoming offtopic overload
 

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I wasn't on the India train at first, but I'm coming around to it because of the diversity. It has big, sprawling cities, beautiful architecture, deserts (I think?) and the Himalayas. They can also just make up their own biomes for the sake of diversity. Alola wore its tropical-ness on its sleeve because Hawaii is a tropical vacation destination; being a tropical paradise is Alola's thing, as are the cultural elements in cribbed from Hawaii. I don't want another tropical region after JUST going through Alola, but an Indian region would be wildly different from a Hawaiian region.

As for offensiveness: as I said, Game Freak has adopted religious themes and gods from all over the world. Bollywood doesn't shy away from religious references or themes, Hinduism or otherwise. (I remember watching an action film about not!Hanuman battling a teleporting Shiva.) And hell, Shin Megami Tensei just released a game that had Krishna as one of the game's main villains, and I don't remember anyone complaining about that. But if Game Freak wants to play it safe and not reference religion directly, they could just adapt folklore and legends, myths like genies (again), historical events or figures, or anything that appears in poems, literature, movies, or stories.

All that said, I don't see Sri Lanka being notable enough for a region, and I'd rather have Italy or Spain. Though if I can fly off the rails and just wish for my favorites, I'd love to see Portugal, Greece, Australia or anywhere in America (again.)
 

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1. The thing about it being obscure is more towards Sri Lanka than India.
2. Alola also had its token desert and mountain area, but it was mostly bright and sandy beaches and tropical forests. This region will mostly be the same.
3. You're comparing ancient tribal beliefs that have been dead for centuries and were isolated to one geographical area to a major religion that has adherents worldwide. That comparison doesn't make any sense.

Huh. I guess I assumed that there were still practicing indigenous Hawaiians, but a quick look at Wikipedia indicates I may have been mistaken.

Regardless, my point was that if anything, they might take the vaguest of Hindu aesthetic and apply it to one or a few Pokémon.

But even if the region is India, they might not do anything like that. The only US-inspired monster in Unova is Braviary. The legendaries of Kalos are often interpreted as Norse.
 

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Unrelated to what we've been talking about supposedly that LeakiLeaks guy is back and saying something is coming very soon. even possibly this week. I'm not 100% sure I'd buy that, but who knows. I'm still trying to dig up the exact post he said this so please bear with me for now.

Hmmm... maybe it's related to the Project Eevee marking the 21st on the calender?


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/project_eevee/status/958716601800515584


Interestingly, that particular tweet is pinned. With no sign of Zeraora yet, it's kinda weird if the theory that a new Eeveelution for Gen 8 is to be believed. I don't think they would reveal a Gen 8 Pokemon before Zeraora, would they?
 

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Interestingly, that particular tweet is pinned. With no sign of Zeraora yet, it's kinda weird if the theory that a new Eeveelution for Gen 8 is to be believed. I don't think they would reveal a Gen 8 Pokemon before Zeraora, would they?
Maybe it's a Magikarp Jump like app.
 

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I suppose we could get sort of a soft announcement? They could conceivably reveal a new Eeveelution without announcing the new game first and then alter reveal Zeraora. It wouldn't be the first time we've gotten new Pokemon before a proper title reveal.
 

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I suppose we could get sort of a soft announcement? They could conceivably reveal a new Eeveelution without announcing the new game first and then alter reveal Zeraora. It wouldn't be the first time we've gotten new Pokemon before a proper title reveal.
So the guy who leaked the injustuce and january direct is saying something pokemon related is coming very soon?
 

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The legendaries of Kalos are often interpreted as Norse.

Despite that interpretation being poorly founded, and superficially satisfying but substantially contradictory to the mythology in almost every detail.

But that still gets at a relevant point - it’s actually comparatively uncommon for Game Freak to simply snatch specific deities from a country’s mythology and splash a Pokémonesque coat of paint on them. The marquee Legendary Pokémon usually trade more on general concepts - “ruler of land,” “ruler of space,” “yin,” “the sun” - which have less to do with any specific myths of the country that’s being adapted and more to do with the themes of the game. I’d say we should look toward whatever the theme of the game will be for ideas on what the Legendary Pokémon of this region will be like before we start digging into particular Hindu deities.

(There are, of course, exceptions, when Game Freak do adapt specific deities and mythological characters and ideas directly, but these tend to be worn on the sleeves: Ho-Oh quite literally sharing its name with the Japanese pronunciation of the fenghaung, or Hoopa Unbound being fairly obviously based on a djinn in its design and having its power linked to a mystical bottle, with an emphasis on the number 3, and, you know, being called the “Djinn Pokémon” in its Unbound form, or Reshiram and Zekrom with their extremely blatant yin-yang theme positioning either of them as the mascot of the game that is opposite their respective body colors. Or even with non-Legendary Pokémon, such as Mawile or Froslass, which connect pretty easily to mythological characters without needing much in the way of stretches or assumptions. Point being, when Game Freak want to adapt a myth, they generally don’t outright contradict the essence of that myth as would be the case if the XYZ trio were trying to emulate Norse mythology.)

That being said, were we to have an Indian region, I actually don’t think it would be unlikely to see Legendary mascots that pick up on the creation/preservation/destruction arc of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva. I don’t think they’d obviously be Poké-Brahma, Poké-Vishnu, and Poké-Shiva - ironically, as a counter to the major faults of the Norse interpretation of the Kalos trio, some have suggested that they might be based on those deities, which is clearly still ridiculous and overly-superficial in the XYZ trio’s case, but it does show how they could go about adapting those ideas into a Pokémon trio without stepping on anyone’s toes if that’s something they were concerned about. And/or they could just stick with a vaguely Indian design aesthetic, like the recognizably-yet-not-too-specific Polynesian look of the tapu.
 
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