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Having old pokemon in invalidates the goal as you are aren't surprised or excited of seeing an old pokemon in a new region.
I agree. Literally my first complaint about XY was how your first wild Pokemon encounter on the first route was ... a damn Pidgey. WHY WASN'T IT A FLETCHLING, GAME FREAK!? It was a scripted encounter, too, they had control over it.

I do have my favorites across all generations (e.g. any hint of a wild Eevee, Shinx or Riolu and I will beeline right over there, even if I don't use them in party) but on average the majority of Pokemon you encounter in that region should be ... y'know, native to that region? Look at the list of wild Pokemon in Alola Route 1 - only 2 of 6 are Alolan natives (+1 if you count Ratatta's regional variant).

Gen 5 had a huge Pokedex partly because, as a design decision, Game Freak decided that BW1 would not feature any old-gen Pokemon until the postgame (plus there was the Dream World thing). It was a useful choice, but it did mean they had to come up with more "dex filler" than normal.
 
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I do like the idea of them using New Pokemon rather than old Pokemon for Gen 8, while I didn't mind Gen 6/7 that much, I do think that if and when Gen 8 comes out. They should have it be new Pokemon at the very start but still make it diverse enough for captures? If that makes any sense.
 
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Just here to say that Gen 8 is very very likely to come out in 2018, if not early 2019.
But summer 2018 may be a bit farfetch'd.

The Chinese translation for Gen 8's story script seems finished.
It also seems that they have finished naming new Pokemon (in Chinese).


Pokemon bundle seems highly likely, together with Pokemon themed Switch, I think.
That's exactly why I haven't bought myself a Switch yet.
Do you have any info on if the amount of new Pokemon? Is there any hope that there will be a larger "batch" this time around? (talking 100+)

In regards to the setting of the games, is there anything on the country/area they are going to be based on?
 
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I hope there aren’t many and we don’t end up in a BW situation... Generation 5 ended up with a lot of not-memorable Pokemon for me, and they seemed to be designed to remind us of the Kanto batch. I'd rather have about 70-80 new Pokemon, and 20-25 Regional Variants and/or Megas.
 
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Do you have any info on if the amount of new Pokemon? Is there any hope that there will be a larger "batch" this time around? (talking 100+)

In regards to the setting of the games, is there anything on the country/area they are going to be based on?
I'd like to see this answered as well, since really, I can overlook many things, but the effective wild pokedex being 60-70 pokemon per gen is just making me more and more disappointed every time
 
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Just here to say that Gen 8 is very very likely to come out in 2018, if not early 2019.
But summer 2018 may be a bit farfetch'd.

The Chinese translation for Gen 8's story script seems finished.
It also seems that they have finished naming new Pokemon (in Chinese).


Pokemon bundle seems highly likely, together with Pokemon themed Switch, I think.
That's exactly why I haven't bought myself a Switch yet.
The “Chinese translation”. Do you have it or your sources won’t let you have it? Is there anything more they have to say? Also would you be able to push for more information or are they fairly secretive/hard to contact?
 
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Switch Leaker (September 2017)
  • Pokemon Rain And Shine, Based on New Zealand, Scheduled for release around September 2018 likely the 28th or 30th.
  • Right now the game is just concept art and a few demos to see how it runs on the Switch. There are currently 27 New Pokemon with the possibility of more being added later in development (In the first leak, they said there where 23 but they came back some time later and added a few in another post)
  • Starters are a Grass type fanged deer with a bunch of flowers around its neck. It becomes Grass/Fighting Type and grows large flowery antlers in its final form. Fire type snake with embers running along the side of its body. It becomes Fire/Poison and has a large wreath of fire around its head in its final form. And a Water type sea urchin with a large eye in the middle of its face. It becomes Water/Rock and it turns into a large golem with the original Urchin on top and two Urchins for hands and it uses a ball and chain like attacks in its final form
  • Rain legendary is a Dark/Electric Eagle with storm clouds for a tail and storm clouds surrounding its neck. Shine legendary is a Dragon/Fairy cobra with a Corona as a hood and featuring all the colours of the rainbow running down its body
  • Generic Pokemon include a 3 stage Normal type Regional Rodent based on a Groundhog/Gopher and gains Ground type, A 2 stage Flying type Regional Bird based on an Emu and gains Fighting type, A single stage Rock/Flying Cassowary, A single stage Water/Steel Ferrofluid Pokemon with an ability similar to Stance Change, and a Rock/Ghost Bleached Coral Pokemon with an ability that curses any Pokemon that makes physical contact
  • Pseudo Legendary is a Dragon/Steel Pangolin with scales forming a suit of armour and crown. It's signature move is called Royal Scales and sets up Dragon type Stealth Rocks which are not affected by Defog or Rapid Spin
  • New Regional Form Pokemon include a Dragon/Water Type Garchomp which has adapted to the fierce currents of the region and which features an ability called Riptide which doubles damage of Whirlpool like moves and makes their effects last twice as long. Rough skin is its hidden ability and when it Mega Evolves it becomes a bit faster and gains Swift Swim. Bug/Rock Skorupi line has adapted to the caves of the region and feature a new ability called Blackout which lowers accuracy the longer the Pokemon is on the field
Current Dex Based On The Information Above
001 Grass Deer

002 Grass Deer

003 Grass/Fighting Deer

004 Fire Snake

005 Fire Snake

006 Fire/Poison Snake

007 Water Sea Urchin

008 Water Sea Urchin

009 Water/Rock Sea Urchin

010 Normal Groundhog/Gopher

011 Normal Groundhog/Gopher

012 Normal/Ground Groundhog/Gopher

013 Flying Emu

014 Flying/Fighting Emu

015 Rock/Flying Cassowary

016 Water/Steel Ferrofluid

017 Rock/Ghost Bleached Coral

018 Dragon/Steel Pangolin Pseudo

019 Dragon/Steel Pangolin Pseudo

020 Dragon/Steel Pangolin Pseudo

021 Dragon/Water New Zealand Grachomp line

022 Dragon/Water New Zealand Garchomp line

023 Dragon/Water New Zealand Garchomp line

024 Bug/Rock New Zealand Skorupi Line

025 Bug/Rock New Zealand Skorupi Line

026 Dark/Electric Eagle Legendary

027 Dragon/Fairy Cobra
Dex Leak (May 2017)
Pokemon From Generation 1
Aerodactyl
Articuno
Ditto
Dratini
Dragonair
Eevee
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Flareon
Farfetch’d
Horsea
Seadra
Kabuto
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Machop
Machoke
Magikarp
Moltres
Omanyte
Omastar
Ponyta
Rapidash
Porygon
Vulpix
Ninetales
Zapdos

Variant Dragonite (Dragon/Water)
Variant Ekans (Poison/Water)
Variant Arbok (Poison/Water)
Variant Growlithe (Electric/Rock)
Variant Arcanine (Electric/Rock)
Variant Gyarados (Water/Dragon)
Variant Machamp (Fairy/Fighting)
Pokemon From Generation 2
Chikorita
Bayleef
Meganium
Cyndaquil
Quilava
Typhlosion
Dunsparce
Entei
Espeon
Umbreon
Ho-oh
Houndour
Houndoom
Kingdra
Lugia
Porygon2
Raikou
Shuckle
Suicune
Togepi
Togetic
Totodile
Croconaw
Feraligatr
Unown

Variant Chinchou (Electric/Dark)
Variant Lanturn (Electric/Dark)
Variant Corsola (Rock/Steel)
Variant Stantler (Normal/Ghost)
Variant Qwilfish (Water/Steel)
Pokemon From Generation 3
Anorith
Armaldo
Feebas
Milotic
Latias
Latios
Lileep
Cradily
Numel
Camerupt
Poochyena
Mightyena
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Relicanth
Seviper
Trapinch
Vibrava
Flygon

Variant Tropius (Ground/Flying)
Pokemon From Generation 4
Carnivine
Finneon
Lumineon
Gallade
Heatran
Hippopotas
Hippowdon
Leafeon
Glaceon
Porygon-Z
Rotom
Starly
Staravia
Staraptor
Togekiss
Pokemon From Generation 5
Archen
Archeops
Axew
Fraxure
Haxorus
Basculin
Blitzle
Zebstrika
Deino
Zweilous
Hydreigon
Druddigon
Durant
Heatmor
Maractus
Petilil
Lilligant
Sandile
Krokorok
Krookodile
Rufflet
Braviary
Sigilyph
Solosis
Duosion
Reuniclus
Tirtouga
Carracosta

Variant Lillipup (Ice)
Variant Herdier (Ice)
Variant Stoutland (Ice)
Variant Litwick (Fire/Water)
Variant Lampent (Fire/Water)
Variant Chandelure (Fire/Water)
Variant Purrloin (Dark/Ice)
Variant Liepard (Dark/Ice)
Variant Vanillite (Ice/Psychic)
Variant Vanillish (Ice/Psychic)
Variant Vanilluxe (Ice/Psychic)
Pokemon From Generation 6
Bergmite
Avalugg
Bunnelby
Clauncher
Clawitzer
Helioptile
Heliolisk
Honedge
Doublade
Aegislash
Noibat
Noivern
Skrelp
Dragalge
Sylveon

Variant Diggersby (Ground/Dark)
Variant Goomy (Water/Ground)
Variant Sliggoo (Water/Ground)
Variant Goodra (Water/Ground)
Variant Skiddo (Fire)
Variant Gogoat (Fire)
Pokemon From Generation 7
Cosmog
Cosmoem
Solgaleo
Lunala
Crabrawler
Crabominable
Dhelmise
Jangmo-o
Hakamo-o
Kommo-o
Komala
Mareanie
Toxapex
Passimian
Pyukumuku
Salandit
Tapu Bulu
Tapu Fini
Tapu Koko
Tapu Lele
Turtonator
Type: Null
Silvally
Wishiwashi

Variant Mimikyu (Ghost/Grass / Fire / Water)
Variant Minior (Rock/Ice)
Variant Salazzle (Poison/Fighting)
Pokemon From Generation 8
Pangolin 1 (Grass/Steel)
Pangolin 2 (Grass/Steel)
Pangolin 3 (Grass/Steel)
Thylacine 1 (Fire)
Thylacine 2 (Fire/Ghost)
Thylacine 3 (Fire/Ghost)
Dolphin 1 (Water)
Dolphin 2 (Water)
Dolphin 3 (Water/Fairy)
Otter 1 (Normal/Water)
Otter 2 (Normal/Water)
Kookaburra 1 (Flying)
Kookaburra 2 (Flying)
Kookaburra 3 (Flying)
Platypus (Water/Poison)
Stick Insect 1 (Bug/Grass)
Stick Insect 2 (Bug/Grass)
Stick Insect 3 (Bug/Grass)
Pyukumuku 2 (Water)
Kangaroo 1 (Grass)
Kangaroo 2 (Grass/Fighting)
Dingo 1 (Fire/Dark)
Dingo 2 (Fire/Dark)
Drakeon (Dragon)
Basculin 2 (Water)
Hurricrane 1 (Water/Flying)
Hurricrane 2 (Water/Flying)
Hurricrane 3 (Water/Flying)
Relicanth 2 (Water/Rock)
Ghost Rock 1 (Ghost/Rock)
Ghost Rock 2 (Ghost/Rock)
Tiki 1 (Grass/Fire)
Tiki 2 (Grass/Fire)
Shuckle 2 (Bug)
Shuckle 3 (Bug/Dragon)
Panda Ant (Bug)
Durant 2 (Bug/Steel)
Dumbo Octopus 1 (Flying/Psychic)
Dumbo Octopus 2 (Flying/Psychic)
Flaringo 1 (Water/Fire)
Flaringo 2 (Water/Fire)
Lumineon 3 (Water)
Digeridoo (Rock/Grass)
Frilled Lizard 1 (Grass/Dragon)
Frilled Lizard 2 (Grass/Dragon)
Frilled Lizard 3 (Grass/Dragon)
Bearded Dragon 1 (Grass/Dragon)
Bearded Dragon 2 (Grass/Dragon)
Bearded Dragon 3 (Grass/Dragon)
Komala 2 (Normal)
Macaw 1 (Grass/Flying)
Macaw 2 (Grass/Flying)
Seviper 2 (Poison)
Gorilla 1 (Fighting)
Gorilla 2 (Fighting)
Chair 1 (Normal)
Chair 2 (Normal)
Chair 3 (Normal)
Dunsparce 2 (Normal/Dragon)
Virus (Electric/Psychic)
Panther 1 (Dark)
Panther 2 (Dark)
Panther 3 (Dark)
Lapras 2 (Water/Ice)
Dhelmise 2 (Ghost/Grass)
Dhelmise 3 (Ghost/Water)
Kraken 1 (Water/Dark)
Kraken 2 (Water/Dark)
Kraken 3 (Water/Dark)
Pegasear (Fire/Flying)
Unglomerate (Psychic/Fighting)
Devolving 1 (Dark)
Devolving 2 (Dark/Fairy)
Devolving 3 (Fairy)
Farfetch’d 2 (Normal/Fighting)
Cerberus 1 (Dark)
Cerberus 2 (Dark)
Cerberus 3 (Dark)
Boar 1 (Ground)
Boar 2 (Ground)
Boar 3 (Ground)
Milotic 3 (Water/Psychic)
Steel Dragon 1 (Dragon/Steel)
Steel Dragon 2 (Dragon/Steel)
Steel Dragon 3 (Dragon/Steel)
Death Worm (Ground)
Druddigon 2 (Dragon/Rock)
Druddigon 3 (Dragon/Rock)
Blobfish (Water)
Arctic Owl 1 (Ice/Fire)
Arctic Owl 2 (Ice/Fire)
Arctic Owl 3 (Ice/Fire)
Reefiathan (Water)
Aegislash 4 (Steel/Ghost)
Feraligatr 4 (Water/Ice)
Flygon 4 (Ground/Dragon)
Hydreigon 4 (Dark/Dragon)
Kommo-o 4 (Dragon/Fighting)
Krookodile 4 (Dark/Ground)
Meganium 4 (Grass/Fairy)
Porygon 4 (Normal/Psychic)
Reuniclus 4 (Psychic)
Staraptor 4 (Normal/Flying)
Togekiss 4 (Flying/Fairy)
Typhlosion 4 (Fire)
Tiger Snake (Dragon/Poison)
Constrictor (Dragon)
Rainbow Snake (Dragon/Fairy)
Varindomitor (Grass/Poison)
Fuegoleo (Fire/Rock)
Haast’s Eagle (Electric/Flying)
Megalodon (Water/Ground)
IRUV "Freelancer From The Future" Leaker (October 2016)
  • Pokemon Infrared and Ultraviolet are the titles of the Generation 8 games
  • It's a reboot similar to what Generation 5
  • The region is based on Ancient China
  • The starters are a Grass Lemur called Leefmur , Fire Snake called Coaboa, and a Water Bear called Ursea
  • The evil team is called Team Rift
  • Gyms are returning
  • There is no Anime
  • The box legends are a Steel/Ghost Cobra for Infrared and Water/Ghost Hornet for Ultraviolet
Anonymous Leaker (August 2017)
  • US/UM are being kept under wraps because their plot connects directly into these games
  • The games are called Pokemon Infra Red and Ultra Violet and are planned for release November 2018
  • This is a re-imagination of the first Generation 1 games and features a redesigned Red and a new blonde girl who retcons Leaf from canon
  • Your rival is a Gary/Blue clone who's gender matches yours
  • Kanto is now bigger and more expansive featuring areas from the Anime and all of the towns, cities, routes, and dungeons are redesigned
  • Brock and Misty are more like in the Anime and act as "friendly rivals" like X/Y and S/M/US/UM. They appear consistently throughout your journey and often partner in double and triple battles
  • Team rocket is much more of a threat, their goal now is to clone Mew who is now retconned into a Pokemon from Ultra Space (more like Cosmog than the other UBs) and create Mewtwo
  • Postgame features the Orange Islands and the 4 Alola Islands (Which are retconned to be part of the Orange Islands) however since this takes place long before Generation 7, it is all just small villages and island territories. There is no Aether or Island Challenge. This part of the Postgame also features 2 quests based on the Anime, and Ultra Space Portals to find the UBs
  • Postgame also lets you catch Ho-Oh in Kanto and there are new ways to obtain Mew, Mewtwo, Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, and Lugia
  • New Pokemon variant called Clone Pokemon and they are based on the Mewtwo clones in the Anime. These are obtainable from the Mew/Mewtwo side quests
  • Alolan Forms are now renamed Exotic Forms and there are 40+ Exotic forms. Some of these include the Pink Pokemon, Ice Type Snorlax, and Crystal Onix
Reginos Region Leak (August 2016)
This is seperated into 3 different parts, by 3 different leakers

Part 1

Region: Reginos
Island based on Great Britain

The region will be split into 4 "Shires" and follow the trial system like Alola and also have 4 traditional gyms. Leaders of each shire will be called 'Lords'. Expect a city based on London, castles, palaces, Stonehenge and Hadrians wall. Post game has an underwater tunnel that leads to its French counterpart...

Villain team is "Team Majestic". Their goal is to capture powerful Pokemon to use as weapons to take over the world. They will attempt to capture all 4 legendary Pokemon to summon the secret 5th legendary.

The legendary pokemon each live in a shire and are regarded as "symbols of the classic elements": Air, Earth, Fire, Water.

Scottish shire: legendary water type based on the Loch Ness Monster. Symbol of the classic water element.

N. Irish shire: legendary ground type giant (inspired by 'Giants causeway' myth). Symbol of the classic Earth element.

Welsh shire: legendary flying type based on a Wyvern. Symbol of the classic Air element.

English shire: legendary fire type based on Saint George's dragon. Symbol of the classic fire element.

5th legendary and box art for both games will a winged duel-type unicorn. One game has 'Attack form' (Ghost/Dark) and one game has 'Defense form' (Psychic/Fairy). One form makes it white while the other form makes it black. It is the symbol of the classic 'aether' element ("Void" in Japanese).

You will be able to crossbreed Mew and Mewtwo to hatch a Mewthree in the day care centre.

The exclusive feature for this game will be "Super stones". This is 1 stone that permanently evolves a pokemons type and gives it 4 new moves. Only a select handful of pokemon can "evolve type" and they will be known as "Super Pokemon".

Pikachu - Fairy (but it can not evolve into Raichu after this)
Lapras - dragon
Tauros - steel
Hitmonlee - dark
Muk - ghost
Kabutops - ground
Snorlax - fighting
Weavile - Physchic
Zangoose - ice
Flygon - bug
Ho-oh - flying
Lugia - water
Part 2
The "super stones" translation were misinterpreted. These stones temporarily change the typing of a handful of "super pokemon" in battle. When a stone is used, these special Pokemon temporarily have THREE typings in battle and three secret moves unlocked (which replace their normal 4 moves) - one move of each type. They also get surround by an aura that changes color depending on the type of the selected move.

Triple type combinations that will be available are:

Ground/Rock/Steel - Steelix
Grass/Poison/Ground - Venosaur
Electric/Fairy/Dark - Pikachu
Fire/Dragon/Flying - Charizard
Water/Ice/Steel - Blastoise
Ghost/Dark/Psychic - Gengar
Water/Ice/Dragon - Lapras
Water/Dragon/Dark - Gyrados
Fighting/Normal/Psychic - Lucario
Bug/Dragon/Flying - Flygon
Bug/Poison/Rock - Kabutops
Fighting/Ice/Normal - Zangoose
Psychic/Flying/Ghost - Ho-oh
Psychic/Flying/Water - Lugia
Psychic/Fairy/Normal - Mew
Psychic/Fairy/Dark - Mewtwo

Each game will have 8 "super pokemon" respectively
Part 3
I am the person who gave the original Gen 7 chinese leaks and new Gen 8 leaks. Gen 8 leaks were originally on tumblr and fans have been adding their own ideas which are not true. "Super pokemon", Mewthree and triple types are not real. The image attached is all the correct details for Gen 8. I've cropped the post circulating to the correct info. Although this is the information in bullet points.

Gen 7 will be shorter than previous games, and that's why you can expect a quick follow up of Gen 8. There are no Megas in gen 7. Mega evolutions have been saved for Gen 8 as the region will attach to Kalos (UK - France: France where mega's originate; go figure).

The best news I can give you is the remaining starter Pokemon will all get Mega Evolutions - except for Gen 7 - in the gen 8 games.

Greninja starts using his tongue as a sling shot with its hands - and slings water balls.

Feraligatr will gain dark type.
Meganium will gain fairy type.
Typlosion will gain ground type.
Empoleon replaces steel type with ice.
Serperior gains poison.

There will be no other megas. There will be 2 gen of starters for exclusive to each gen 8 game. 2 and 4 starters/5 and 6 starters respectively.


Note: In the future I will track down the posting dates of all these leaks and will order them/ clean things up

Fake
AA Leaker (October 2016)
  • Titles are Pokemon Infrared and Ultraviolet
  • No new Mega Evolutions
  • Region forms are now redefined and Pokemon have variations in appearance and stats based on the environment, lore, and genetics. Most of these are in the concept stage and an example is a Poison/Other Type Snail that has its shell change based on its second type
  • The region is based on the US, California in particular. Notable locations include an Amusement Park, Redwood forest, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and San Francisco inspired city, a huge Railroad System, Drive in Theatre, Mining Dig site, Racetrack, Shopping Malls, and a Battle Festival
  • Starters are a Grass Ant, Fire Bear, and Water Bat
  • The gimmick is Temporary Battle Exclusive Fusions. Only the new Pokemon and some old ones can do this but there are restrictions, they have to be of the same seven letter Gene Code (Like Pokemon Blood Types) and have to be FE. Genes aren't random, they are assigned based on certain traits almost like Breeding Groups
  • Legendaries are based on Microscopic organisms with Electric/Fire for Infrared and Electric/Water for Ultraviolet and could fuse because of their special Gene Code
  • Marshadow is related to Magearna. It is like Magearna's opposite.
  • Around 80-120 new Pokemon
  • Breeding is more complex because the stat system is expanded on. There is more strategy and involvement to the point of, raising an egg and infant Pokemon is a game in itself
  • New stats include Intelligence, Happiness, Discipline and Health. You can "educate" Pokemon through "classes". Pokemon that are "Smarter" have higher Accuracy and a bigger move pool. Health is separate from HP so if your Pokemon faints a lot they "die" but can then be cloned. This is also how fossil Pokemon are made
  • Gyms are bigger and Feature specific modes focusing on specific stats
  • New Evolutions of older Pokemon include Starmie, Flareon, Jolteon, Vaporeon, Electrode, Lanturn, and Spiritomb
  • Battle system is revamped with Accuracy and Power no longer being move specific but based on how a Pokemon is raised. Pokemon also move more in battle like living creatures and interact with each other. Also the new stats have a part to play. Discipline for example could result in a Pokemon befriending an enemy Pokemon instead of attacking it
  • The player has much more interaction in the world and one plot point involves interacting with the "police" to fight an evil team
  • Graphics are similar to Pokken
  • To be announced probably Summer 2017
  • NPCs are overhauled featuring dialog trees, missions, and changes based on how you react
  • There is no 3rd version of Sun/Moon Planned
Are you kidding me? Only the Rain and Shine leaks and the Dex leak look legit. Everything else looks like bad fanfiction. There's so any problems with the other "leaks" that I'm gonna have to create a separate post to list them.
 
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This is a good list. Great way to keep track of all the possible leak. One leak I saw was the Vacto leak:

•Next Pokémon games are Pokémon North and Pokémon South


•The region is called Vacto and is based on Italy. There are plenty of old buildings and detailed architecture to show off what the Switch is capable of


•The grass starter is a bear with a cape-like leaf on it’s back. The fire starter is a gecko with hot coal finger tips. The water starter is a bird with seaweed looking feathers.


•The cover legendaries are a turtle and a Phoenix that have 4 holes on their backs that plasma-like hands emerge.


•Some mega evolutions of Pokémon that do not have 3 stage evolutions become normal evolutions.


•This is not a retcon, an explanation regarding how some mega evolutions became their own species of Pokémon through enough trainers bonding with them is given.


•Vactoan forms exist. An Electric/Ground Raichu is shown.


•Motion control gimmick and an expanded Pokéride that makes use of them. Playing docked and undocked changes the kinds of Pokémon that appear in certain areas.


•Co-developed by Nintendo themselves because Switch development takes longer and needs more man power to keep up a similar schedule to the DS/3DS.


•An announcement trailer is scheduled for January in a Pokémon Direct.
 
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The fire starter is a gecko with hot coal finger tips.
Some mega evolutions of Pokémon that do not have 3 stage evolutions become normal evolutions.


•This is not a retcon, an explanation regarding how some mega evolutions became their own species of Pokémon through enough trainers bonding with them is given.
These seem the most unbelievable parts of the 'leak' imo. GameFreak aren’t going out of the zodiac for the fire starter, I think, and these games would have to take place LOOONNGG after XY to have Megas turn into their new species.
 
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Some mega evolutions of Pokémon that do not have 3 stage evolutions become normal evolutions.
An announcement trailer is scheduled for January in a Pokémon Direct.
I think we can easily cross that out then. That's way too soon after Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.

I also doubt they'd change some Megas to become permanent Pokemon. What's the point of them as Megas then?
 
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I think we can easily cross that out then. That's way too soon after Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.
Well if the games are coming out in Oct/Nov, then a Jan/Feb Direct is not out of the question considering that’s what they did the past 2 generations.
 
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Are you kidding me? Only the Rain and Shine leaks and the Dex leak look legit. Everything else looks like bad fanfiction. There's so any problems with the other "leaks" that I'm gonna have to create a separate post to list them.
> 1st stage water starter is a cyclops
The Shine/Rain stuff lost me there (or maybe it lost me at the reharsh of deerling/sawsbuck starter) idk..
 
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These seem the most unbelievable parts of the 'leak' imo. GameFreak aren’t going out of the zodiac for the fire starter, I think, and these games would have to take place LOOONNGG after XY to have Megas turn into their new species.
I definitely agree but we would have to see what it would actually look like. Depending on what the model is, I could see people making a case for it being a snake, the same way people argued Fennekin being a dog.
 
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The “Chinese translation”. Do you have it or your sources won’t let you have it? Is there anything more they have to say? Also would you be able to push for more information or are they fairly secretive/hard to contact?
No.
I was given very little info.
The leakers are very cautious this time round because a few of them have already been kicked out from the chat group (and can no longer leak anymore things)
 
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I think we can easily cross that out then. That's way too soon after Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.

I also doubt they'd change some Megas to become permanent Pokemon. What's the point of them as Megas then?
I mean we got an XY announcement the January after BW2 came out. Sure BW2 came out in Japan that June while it came out internationally in October, but the standard remains the same. It's not THAT crazy to think it could happen
 
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Some mega evolutions of Pokémon that do not have 3 stage evolutions become normal evolutions.
I'm going to second the all the people expressing disbelief at this. GameFreak has undeniably made some odd choices with regards to Megas, and has a vast and varied history of retconning things, but actually changing how alternate forms work and turning them into new dex entries sounds like a step beyond even the weirdest things they've ever done.

Vactoan forms exist. An Electric/Ground Raichu is shown.
I highly doubt they'd give anything two regional variants. I'm all for Raichu getting some of the favoritism for once instead of Pikachu, but given how they clearly avoided giving Alola Forms to anything with a Mega I'm very skeptical that they'll give anything multiple regional variants.

Co-developed by Nintendo themselves because Switch development takes longer and needs more man power to keep up a similar schedule to the DS/3DS.
Does anyone with more knowledge than me of how Nintendo and GameFreak interact want to comment on how realistic this is? GameFreak has mentioned their work on the Switch multiple times but made no mention of Nintendo being more involved in the development process, so I'm not really convinced.

All that said, this is the series that gave us evolving legendaries and a region without gyms after 20 years, so anything could happen.
 
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These seem the most unbelievable parts of the 'leak' imo. GameFreak aren’t going out of the zodiac for the fire starter, I think, and these games would have to take place LOOONNGG after XY to have Megas turn into their new species.
i mean with the first part the chinese zodiac thing is just a hamfisted fan theory (see: Fennekin, Cyndaquil line), as for the second part Game Freak can just retcon shit however they please. granted, i doubt it would happen since mega evolutions are simply a visual extension of the evolving pokemon and not an extension of the concept they are based off of anyways.
 
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Does anyone with more knowledge than me of how Nintendo and GameFreak interact want to comment on how realistic this is? GameFreak has mentioned their work on the Switch multiple times but made no mention of Nintendo being more involved in the development process, so I'm not really convinced.
As far as I know GF never does much work directly with Nintendo when making their games. Since they're a 3rd party developer they do all their stuff in house and don't need Nintendo. That said they do converse about development. GF has said they'll take suggestions from Nintendo, but at the end of the day it's their game so they make the final call on things. Now on them possibly collaborating on making the Switch game it's not out of the question. Since this is GF's first hd Pokemon game as well as their first stab at a Pokemon game on what is essentially a home console as well as a handheld it'd make sense if they asked Nintendo for advice/help to get things going. In addition to this from all the rumors we've heard about Nintendo pushing GF to make a game that's "disruptive" similar to how the new Mario and Zelda games are it would make sense for them to collaborate on the project. At least this time.
 
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If Shuckle gets evolutions, Eviolite Shuckle will be unbeatable.
 
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As far as I know GF never does much work directly with Nintendo when making their games. Since they're a 3rd party developer they do all their stuff in house and don't need Nintendo. That said they do converse about development. GF has said they'll take suggestions from Nintendo, but at the end of the day it's their game so they make the final call on things. Now on them possibly collaborating on making the Switch game it's not out of the question. Since this is GF's first hd Pokemon game as well as their first stab at a Pokemon game on what is essentially a home console as well as a handheld it'd make sense if they asked Nintendo for advice/help to get things going. In addition to this from all the rumors we've heard about Nintendo pushing GF to make a game that's "disruptive" similar to how the new Mario and Zelda games are it would make sense for them to collaborate on the project. At least this time.
Masuda was at nintendo headquarters October but it could be anything really
 

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