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Generation IV Remake Speculation

Will there be remakes in Gen VIII?


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So Sinnoh remakes for the 25th Anniversary? Don't see that happening.
Me neither, they wouldn't wait that long for DP remake, just because they wanted Kanto/Johto Sequels over Sinnoh Remake. We'll likely to see DP remake before Gen VIII happening. Plus in Gen VIII they might be either Black/White Remake or another Black/White Sequel in Gen VIII and they don't open two remake in the same generation.
 
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My personal hopes for Gen IV remakes is that they base the story and regional dex more off of Platinum than Diamond and Pearl. I liked DP, don't get me wrong, but Platinum is so much better than the original releases in terms of story (although it's still nothing compared to Gen V or VII's stories) and Pokemon selection it isn't even funny. Oh, and I hope the secret bases in the Underground have just as many features (or more) than the Super Secret Bases from ORAS.

Also, I personally don't hope there's as much of a difference in quality as there was between XY and ORAS... Because I hope Gen VIII's main games aren't as disappointing as XY. I don't want to have Gen VIII be as disappointing compared to Gen VII as Gen VI was compared to Gen V.

Then again, there's kind of a tendency for the first Gen on a console with multiple Gens (as opposed to he GBA which only had one including the remakes) to be disappointing or rough around the edges compared to the second Gen on the same console. Gen I isn't as good as Gen II, Gen IV isn't as good as Gen V, and Gen VI certainly wasn't as good as Gen VII. That being said, thanks to Platinum, the difference in quality between Gen IV and Gen V was much less dramatic than the differences between Gen I and Gen II or Gen VI and Gen VII.
 
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I bet they'll call it Ultra Diamond/Ultra Pearl :p
The following I should point out is a double edged sword. Diamond and Pearl are the 10th anniversary games. Its a double edged sword because on the one hand they would lend credence for DP remakes (didn't happen) but on the other hand it also meant that things that were created in relation to DP (Including the anime) are lore likely to be used either for homage or sinply becuase of the association.

Come to think of it. Oracion was used for the Rise of Darkrai. Was that the 10th movie?

I think Joe might be thinking that USUM would just have sinnoh refernces, but not hint towards remakes in Gen 7, because The Sinnoh and Alola games are supposed to be Anniversary titles (Plus HGSS were Gen 4 remakes of gen 2 games, which also lines things up for Johto references)
 
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The official information about the movie ending makes just as much a big deal about the singer being known for the Jirachi movie's ending as it does about the Oracion song. And the latter wasn't an ending theme 10 years ago - it was a song used in the movie itself.

They most likely just picked the most famous singer and song from the previous movies. I'd think that the dubbed Lugia's song would be more popular in the west, but its Japanese counterpart wasn't very special.

At any rate, movie music doesn't foreshadow games.
 
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This is coming from someone who has Gen 4 as his favourite gen, but i don't want a remake.

The majority of the fanbase now has this mentality that every gen eventually has to be remade and i honestly hate that quite a lot. Instead of coming up with new games, a lot of people just want the old games but with prettier graphics and i'm honestly sick of this. It's just a pointless exercise and wasted resources that could be going to actual new games.

And then there's the argument that i despise "Making a remake for the new generation of players". Why? Just tell them to buy a physical copy of Platinum or put that game in the Virtual Console. Do we really need to waste a bunch of resources and time just so the new players can play it?


I guess i'm just sick and tired of remakes because a vast majority are just lame cash grabs that only exist to cash in on people's nostalgia. And to me that's disgusting.
 
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This is coming from someone who has Gen 4 his favourite gen, but i don't want a remake.

The majority of the fanbase now has this mentality that every gen eventually has to be remade and i honestly hate that quite a lot. Instead of coming up with new games, a lot of people just want the old games but with prettier graphics and i'm honestly sick of this. It's just a pointless exercise and wasted resources that could be going to actual new games.

And then there's the argument that i despise "Making a remake for the new generation of players". Why? Just tell them to buy a physical copy of Platinum or put that game in the Virtual Console. Do we really need to waste a bunch of resources and time just so the new players can play it?


I guess i'm just sick and tired of remakes because a vast majority are just lame cash grabs that only exist to cash in on people's nostalgia. And to me that's disgusting.
Then how about Sinnoh sequels?
 
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I haven't experiences Sinnoh before, and I don't have a single console except my future switch. So I'd like to see how the region is like, the Pokemon, and all of that.

Remakes provide a way for the old regions to be fresh again with new storyline and lore. The graphics are ab extra bonus. I don't mind sequels over remakes or the other way round. I just want a revisit. The amount of changes cab vary.
 
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I wouldn't mind either DP remake or sequel (I would prefer DP Sequels), either way I really want to revisit sinnoh. If GF did sequel, maybe it's the first they would change up the pokemon concept, like the did US/UM with an "Alternate Version"
 
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Heck, Distortion world is tailor made for the new games! I think they wanted to show this off with the Ultra Space...
 
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With Ultra space getting it's huge expansion like they did Distortion World in Platinum, I wonder if this'll hint toward Sinnoh Remake/Sequel.
 
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Cynthia isn't in the movie. The linked summary says that it's probably a different character and another summary says that the woman has brown hair and an Empoleon, which Cynthia doesn't. The hair color is probably dirty blonde like Serena's.

I still think that Piplup and Lucario are just in the movie due to their popularity in Japan. They want kids to buy their merchandise, and probably don't care about foreshadowing any games that obviously won't be released this year.
 
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Damn, this movie sounds like a bit of a mess. Just from the summary, I can already understand why people are saying it was meh. Sounds like they tried to do way too many things at the same time and ended up with a bunch of clutter without anything being fully developed. The only things that sound even slightly coherent are the progression of Charmander to Charizard, and
Ho-Oh coming full circle to save Ash.
But hey, maybe the summary guy was being too harsh. Maybe it's not all bad. Sounds shaky though.
 
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Charmander's progression may be coherent, but it is far less compelling than the original story.

And the culmination of the Ho-Oh angle is banal. It obviously mirrors Ash's slightly ambiguous death in the first movie, and to make matters worse, nothing interesting happens after Ash is revived. He just battles Ho-Oh and loses, lol. It makes the whole premise so reductive and disappointing after 20 years.

But the movie thread is the right place for this discussion.
 
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