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Generation VI: The Future

What will it be?


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tyguy723

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Maybe but they aren't going to put new pokemon in the middle or in th last game of the current gen. It is a bad decision and new pokemon should only be introduced in a whole new generation.
What would be bad. Could you how any type of evidence to back this claim. Obviously it could be taken as an opinion, but honestly, what is the detriment to Kalos if Pokemon are added? The new list was bare bone and the smallest we've ever gotten, anything added could salvage the region to be more fleshed out with its population.

You keep stating that they HAVE to be at the start of a new generation, but Masada is all about change and surprise now. ANYTHING is literally possible, so to go by precedence isn't as valid anymore. One might have said before the Unova sequels they couldn't do it simply vacate they never did and that a third legendary in a trio meant Gray HAD to happen...but then we got a reality check: it didn't have to happen and we did get sequels and the pattern was broken. So don't just state that because A happened in the past, B & C are to follow...it's a different point now in the series to take a risk and change.
 

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Getting a Pokedex entry and number is hardly something that matters in the grand scheme of things, those are fairly arbitrary and semantic differences. New forms and Megas already have new types, stats, and movesets, giving them their own numbers isn't a big step up from that.

New type, stats and movesets doesn't make them new pokemon if they are register in the pokedex forms. For example Mega Charizard is not listed after Charizard but in the forms section of Charizard.

What would be bad. Could you how any type of evidence to back this claim. Obviously it could be taken as an opinion, but honestly, what is the detriment to Kalos if Pokemon are added? The new list was bare bone and the smallest we've ever gotten, anything added could salvage the region to be more fleshed out with its population.

You keep stating that they HAVE to be at the start of a new generation, but Masada is all about change and surprise now. ANYTHING is literally possible, so to go by precedence isn't as valid anymore. One might have said before the Unova sequels they couldn't do it simply vacate they never did and that a third legendary in a trio meant Gray HAD to happen...but then we got a reality check: it didn't have to happen and we did get sequels and the pattern was broken. So don't just state that because A happened in the past, B & C are to follow...it's a different point now in the series to take a risk and change.

Then what would be the point of new generations if they decided to introduce new pokemon in the middle of a current gen. You might as well do away with the whole generation concept by this logic.
 

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New type, stats and movesets doesn't make them new pokemon if they are register in the pokedex forms. For example Mega Charizard is not listed after Charizard but in the forms section of Charizard.



Then what would be the point of new generations if they decided to introduce new pokemon in the middle of a current gen. You might as well do away with the whole generation concept by this logic.
But a generation is really just a hardware era phenomenon. Whether or not the Pokemon is native to the region is what matters, not some categorial title:ROFLMAO:
Whatever, everyone that is trying to speak about this, a speculation topic, seems to always be shot down by your comments. I don't know what you want...you come to a speculation thread to make theories and spark ideas about what could happen in the future, but by you always swooping in, negating everyone's ideas, & basing everything by precedence idk why you are here if you seem to know what GameFreak is going to do. We're just trying to cultivate ideas from one another into something cool that we might think is possible. If you really don't agree, don't just spam everyone's messages with how they aren't possible. It is pretty clear you will never accept such an idea so just ignore it;)
 

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But a generation is really just a hardware era phenomenon. Whether or not the Pokemon is native to the region is what matters, not some categorial title:ROFLMAO:
Whatever, everyone that is trying to speak about this, a speculation topic, seems to always be shot down by your comments. I don't know what you want...you come to a speculation thread to make theories and spark ideas about what could happen in the future, but by you always swooping in, negating everyone's ideas, & basing everything by precedence idk why you are here if you seem to know what GameFreak is going to do. We're just trying to cultivate ideas from one another into something cool that we might think is possible. If you really don't agree, don't just spam everyone's messages with how they aren't possible. It is pretty clear you will never accept such an idea so just ignore it;)

If there is brand new pokemon aka gen 6.5 in Z, then I be alright with it but I still don't see the point. New mega evolutions, primal or forums is something that I understand and expect for new game. Of course it would make Z more incompatible if new pokemon are introduced.
 

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Getting a Pokedex entry and number is hardly something that matters in the grand scheme of things, those are fairly arbitrary and semantic differences. New forms and Megas already have new types, stats, and movesets, giving them their own numbers isn't a big step up from that.

Exactly. I'm not saying GameFreak is for sure going to add a new batch of Pokémon, but it's hardly out of the realm of possibility when they've been doing it every single generation since Hoenn.
 

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There is no legendary pokemon we haven't seen before. XY and ORAS had all the legendarys from each generation. We also not getting entirely new pokemon for legendary pokemon as that would saved for gen 7.



I am just being logical to how Pokemon Z is going to be. New pokemon in Z would be pointless as gen 7 would after Z and it would defeat the purpose of a new generation pokemon. Zygarde has enough forms as it is because adding a mega on top of the new forms would overpower Zygarde and Zygarde would be strong enough in it's complete form.

In isolation the points you make are reasonable yes, but when added all together they are not. There has to be something on the front of the box(s) like they're not just gonna have the word Pokemon. But you have ruled out every possible box mascot as far as I am aware without stating what you think will be on the box in place. Unless you are suggesting Zygarde Complete being on a game at least 9 months after his reveal.

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To people saying they can't add new Pokemon because that makes the lines between Generations blurry, remember for the first 15 years the concept that a new gen had to be on a new console was in place, until Black/White tore that one down.
 

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In isolation the points you make are reasonable yes, but when added all together they are not. There has to be something on the front of the box(s) like they're not just gonna have the word Pokemon. But you have ruled out every possible box mascot as far as I am aware without stating what you think will be on the box in place. Unless you are suggesting Zygarde Complete being on a game at least 9 months after his reveal.

I am pretty sure Zygarde would the mascot of Z. Rayquaza was mascot of Emerald, Giratina was for Platinum and Kyurem for Black 2 and White 2. Xerneas and Yveltal had already been mascots of gen 6, so Zygarde is the most likely candidate and I don't see any other pokemon. Unless Volcanion is the mascot which is very, very unlikely.
 

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I am pretty sure Zygarde would the mascot of Z. Rayquaza was mascot of Emerald, Giratina was for Platinum and Kyurem for Black 2 and White 2. Xerneas and Yveltal had already been mascots of gen 6, so Zygarde is the most likely candidate and I don't see any other pokemon. Unless Volcanion is the mascot which is very, very unlikely.

Yes to say Zygarde will be the mascot is reasonable, but what form do you think. You've ruled out new forms, so are you suggesting it will be Complete Form? Why then reveal Complete 9 months before the game, wouldn't it be really stale by then?
 

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Yes to say Zygarde will be the mascot is reasonable, but what form do you think. You've ruled out new forms, so are you suggesting it will be Complete Form? Why then reveal Complete 9 months before the game, wouldn't it be really stale by then?

Hell, we don't even know if the game will be ANNOUNCED 9 months after Complete's reveal, much less released. So yeah, something new will have to be on the boxart.
 

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Yes to say Zygarde will be the mascot is reasonable, but what form do you think. You've ruled out new forms, so are you suggesting it will be Complete Form? Why then reveal Complete 9 months before the game, wouldn't it be really stale by then?

Because Game Freak is probably got something big and is keeping info at the moment while working on surprises. Anyway they decide when the game gets released.
 

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If there are no new pokemon which is likely, there are only a couple of possibilties. The three most likely would be:

1. Unrevealed form of Zygarde. Something I was thinking about was if a single core gains all 100% of the cells and creating a pure red 100% form or pure blue 100% form with some changes like the blue 100% not having wings, but legs instead like Xerneas and the opposite red 100% having wings, but no legs like Yveltal. We don't know exactly, if a core is locked to only have 50% of the cells.

2. Once mor Xerneas and Yveltal, but with some drastic changes. Like them also having the ability to absorb the Zygarde cells to increase their power. With that, both get some cosmetic changes like green parts on their body or glowing hexagon.

3. They stick with the regular perfect zygarde.
 

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Ok here's my first outlandish theory - Not only are there various formes of Zygarde, but they're purposely hiding the existence of 1 from the Movie. presumably with the intention to keeping the idea of the dual-game's sequel a secret. In the Anime, there is a Red core and a Blue core. now logically you'd assume that Puni-chan was involved in the creation of the Perfect Zygarde. but why would they tote a new Pokemon in the form of a chibi which might not even be usable in battle? because they might be using it as a plot token to justify how Zygarde would shift forms. in the Movie there is Volcanion which appearance is unexplained yet "stars" as a main character.
The theory in-universe is that Team Flare would imprison Volcanion in the effort to power up one of the cores, preferably the blue one. with this it'll shift into a corrupted form rather than a perfect form. essentially this would imply that Perfect doesn't appear in the movies and the existence of a Red-Imperfect form would make it an unmentioned form variation sort of how Rotom's forms were only mentioned in ads, vs Giratina & Shaymin getting new formes right off the bat in their movie. in the Games, the core you get depends on which legend was siphoned so in X2, the player's intervention meant that Xerneas' energy wasn't released from the Geosenge Weapon which Zygarde takes into rejecting the Red core to vastly empower itself for the Blue core (Life) whereas in Y2, the lack of Yveltal Energy would result in Zygarde adopting the Red core (Death). perhaps by direct intervention by the Dragonid, surplus energy from one universe can be siphoned into a version of Kalos without as much energy in one aspect than another.
Perfect would be a Primal forme, whilst the Red/Blue formes would be considered as Megas called Death/Life formes, but to cater to a younger demographic, they'll call it the Prosperous forme and the Entropy forme. Notice that the only new art we've seen of Zygarde is the Core, 10% and Perfect? all of them besides Perfect only shows Red. perhaps this is a Broad Strokes Retcon to justify why the idea of 2 Cores didn't exist before the Core was revealed. the Dog forme has the justification of being built for speed and only has teeth for close range protection hence the prominent Red Core being shown, whilst the "Perfect" form is that; perfect to protect the core where it doesn't need the power because the environment is in perfect balance, they skip straight to Perfect forme in promotions to trick the audience into thinking it's just that; Red, Blue and White is France's national flag's colors so it'd be reasoned as that. but Zygarde was still shown in silhouette meaning there's still either the potential for single-core "perfect" formes, or even the possibility that Blue Core may have a different 10% form from Red, possibly a more hellish wolf form to differentiate itself between Man and Nature. (Dogs and Wolves?)
 

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I think there's three cores: Red, White and Blue, all of which are seen on Complete Zygarde's abdomen mouth. So if that is true, that means that the dual game theory is false. Three cores among two games wouldn't make sense unless White Core would be in both games.
 

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Personally, where the next game will take place, intrigues me more than the actual plot... Southern Kalos?
 

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I don't think there is a white core. We only have the two and that is good enough. I also believe that Complete Zygarde is the final form of Zygarde. I don't believe that we be getting a Mega Complete Zygarde, Primal Complete Zygarde, Mega Primal Complete Zygarde/Primal Mega Complete Zygarde or Red/Blue Inperfect Zygarde. We already have Cell, Core, 10%, 50 % and Complete form. We don't need another 5 more or less forms to go with them.

Seriously, why do people want to give it many more forms is beyond me.
 

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I don't think there is a white core. We only have the two and that is good enough. I also believe that Complete Zygarde is the final form of Zygarde. I don't believe that we be getting a Mega Complete Zygarde, Primal Complete Zygarde, Mega Primal Complete Zygarde/Primal Mega Complete Zygarde or Red/Blue Inperfect Zygarde. We already have Cell, Core, 10%, 50 % and Complete form. We don't need another 5 more or less forms to go with them.

Seriously, why do people want to give it many more forms is beyond me.

Giving Zygarde one or two Megas or something similar isn't all that bad as you're making it out to be. Besides, it's in a Mega Evolution Act. I'd be surprised if they don't add another thing relating to it.
 

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Giving Zygarde one or two Megas or something similar isn't all that bad as you're making it out to be. Besides, it's in a Mega Evolution Act. I'd be surprised if they don't add another thing relating to it.

But that is like giving Rayquaza a primal reversion and mega evolutions for Groudon and Kyogre. The Complete form is said to contain power greater than Xerneas and Yveltal. That should indicate how strong the complete form is without adding another mega/primal/form on top of it.
 

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Okay you'll this is not at all confirmed but some sources are saying that this month's corocoro just confirms that Zygarde is indeed going to be in the next movie and furthermore that in the next issue it'll reveal some quote on quote “ Trembling" news.
 

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Okay you'll this is not at all confirmed but some sources are saying that this month's corocoro just confirms that Zygarde is indeed going to be in the next movie and furthermore that in the next issue it'll reveal some quote on quote “ Trembling" news.

If this is true then I can't say I'm surprised in the least. I never really saw a reveal coming this month anyway and it makes more sense for them to start next month at the earliest.
 

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Okay you'll this is not at all confirmed but some sources are saying that this month's corocoro just confirms that Zygarde is indeed going to be in the next movie and furthermore that in the next issue it'll reveal some quote on quote “ Trembling" news.

I am not sure if I buy this. Even if it is true, the "Trembling news" would likely be the same as the "big news" from December 2015. It probably end up being Eternal Floette or something.
 
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