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Generation VI: The Future

What will it be?


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!Z!

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Ok even if most people knew about him, how do you expect them to announce him?

"Hey... there is this new Pokemon that errm... you weren't really meant to know about, but you've prolly learned about him already so... there you go... "


No, there going to have to act like it really is new.

They have announced things in the past without a big build up, that's all I'm saying. Still give Volcanion his reveal, but don't hype it up for a month saying BIG NEWS BIG NEWS!
 

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They had every right to do so. Volcanion for all intents and purposes was technically a new Pokemon in terms of marketing, and it was kinda big to reveal it. Hell, even the fact that it was the December movie news was big, because for anyone who knows how these things work, it meant that the February reveal and primary star of the movie will be something completely and utterly new. I dunno why everyone in here is acting like this, we aren't the demographic the magazine is advertising to, taking things for granted isn't the smartest approach and feelimg entitled is certainly the worst approach to them advertising their own magazine.
 

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They had every right to do so. Volcanion for all intents and purposes was technically a new Pokemon in terms of marketing, and it was kinda big to reveal it. Hell, even the fact that it was the December movie news was big, because for anyone who knows how these things work, it meant that the February reveal and primary star of the movie will be something completely and utterly new. I dunno why everyone in here is acting like this, we aren't the demographic the magazine is advertising to, taking things for granted isn't the smartest approach and feelimg entitled is certainly the worst approach to them advertising their own magazine.

Can I just ask where this confirmation that Volcanion isn't the main star of the movie came from? Hoopa was only revealed a month later and he got a whole movie to himself fine!
 

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Can I just ask where this confirmation that Volcanion isn't the main star of the movie came from? Hoopa was only revealed a month later and he got a whole movie to himself fine!

IIRC it's because we haven't gotten the movie title besides the generic one. Which gives off the idea they're hiding the movie star.
 

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I suppose I shouldn't be that surprised that they trusted Hoopa to have a whole movie by himself

I mean afterall...


YOU CAN LEAVE IT TO HOOPA!
 

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Can I just ask where this confirmation that Volcanion isn't the main star of the movie came from? Hoopa was only revealed a month later and he got a whole movie to himself fine!
We have no movie title yet, and its obvious we are following the more traditional reveal schedule for the movies. Which is, December has some form of Pokemon which is either in the title or used to promote the movie for a while, until February in which the primary star of the movie is revealed, and the full title is given out. So far we don't have a movie title even, so we can't be 100% sure, but Volcanion or a new Volcanion forme would be highly irregular as the star. If that were the case, Volcanion would have been revealed next month, with the forme coming sometime in April or May, much like Skymin, Keldeo Resolute, or Mega Diancie.
Now though? Its a wild card. It could be a gen 7 mon, but I doubt it, as that would mean gen 7 this year, which I also doubt. What else it could be though, is beyond me. I'm really curious what it xould end being
 

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We have no movie title yet, and its obvious we are following the more traditional reveal schedule for the movies. Which is, December has some form of Pokemon which is either in the title or used to promote the movie for a while, until February in which the primary star of the movie is revealed, and the full title is given out. So far we don't have a movie title even, so we can't be 100% sure, but Volcanion or a new Volcanion forme would be highly irregular as the star. If that were the case, Volcanion would have been revealed next month, with the forme coming sometime in April or May, much like Skymin, Keldeo Resolute, or Mega Diancie.
Now though? Its a wild card. It could be a gen 7 mon, but I doubt it, as that would mean gen 7 this year, which I also doubt. What else it could be though, is beyond me. I'm really curious what it xould end being

Firstly a new Mon could be part of a Gen 6.5 and even if you're not a fan of the 6.5 idea, Munchlax was revealed and we still got Emerald after.
 
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Are you kidding it's probably the other way around, where the vast majority knew and a small minority didn't
i think you're kidding yourself if you think really involved internet users make up the vast majority of Pokemon's fans and buyers.
 

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I've gone into detail abou this before. Things are run much more tightly these days compared to 2004. We are not going to get a new Pokemon from gen 7 this year unless gen 7 is coming this year. As for gen 6.5 I am not opposed to it, but I do have reasons for why it won't happen, at least not this gen.
 

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Firstly a new Mon could be part of a Gen 6.5 and even if you're not a fan of the 6.5 idea, Munchlax was revealed and we still got Emerald after.

There is no way Game Freak would create a generation that exists between 6 and 7 especially if Z is the last game of gen 6. No point putting new pokemon into Z if gen 7 is coming after it. It would be a waste of pokemon. They could just make a mythical pokemon available to capture without an event like they did with Deoxys.
 

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There is no way Game Freak would create a generation that exists between 6 and 7 especially if Z is the last game of gen 6. No point putting new pokemon into Z if gen 7 is coming after it. It would be a waste of pokemon. They could just make a mythical pokemon available to capture without an event like they did with Deoxys.

Which one are you suggesting, Volcanion? I could see it actually. His background does tie in with Zygarde (protector of ecosytem vs destroyer of eco system)

Would be funny if we all expect Pokemon Z(ee) and they give us Pokemon V :D
 

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Will the 'entire world' see the Pokemon ad during the Super Bowl, though? We get American shows here in Britain but we don't get the exact same American commercials that air during those shows. I'm not an expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but unless the Pokemon ad is in the Superbowl itself (like the halftime show) I don't think the 'whole world' will see it unless it gets released on Youtube at the same time.

If I recall, the superbowl ads do all remain the same the world over, it's just the regular commercials that change.

Serebii has said no such thing; he even corrected people who interpreted the wording as possibly not being movie-related. "World exclusive scoop poster and a major announcement that will affect the entire world for the movie" is explicit.

Of course it is. Whatever you say, hun. ;)

Game Freak shouldn't be held responsible for people datamining their games. It's not their fault people delved in very deep and exposed everything so quickly.

It kind of is, though. People have been datamining the games since Sinnoh. They could've easily made Volcanion and Hoopa non-compatible with X and Y since their importance is more obvious in ORAS. Or they could've made the games a bit more encrypted. I'm not talking government level firewalls, but a bit more secure considering half of the franchise has been hacked by leakers within a month.

I'll say this for Pokémon, though. Generation 6 were the first 3DS games to be fully hacked, as well as ORAS being the first games to usher in 6th Gen. ROM hacking. So it's good for us, bad for them that the games are so poorly protected.
 
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Entitled fans are still complaining about Volcanion's reveal? :eek: Nothing new there.

Anyway I made some avatars from the 20th logo if anyone wants one. Doesn't matter if you don't, but they are here anyway :p

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If next month's news is the Strange Souvenier Pokemon I will literally yodel.

It kind of is, though. People have been datamining the games since Sinnoh. They could've easily made Volcanion and Hoopa non-compatible with X and Y since their importance is more obvious in ORAS. Or they could've made the games a bit more encrypted. I'm not talking government level firewalls, but a bit more secure considering half of the franchise has been hacked by leakers within a month.

Non-compatability with X/Y defeats the objective of completing the National Pokdex within those games. It also removes the element of base compatability with X/Y. Sure, the form changes/moves aren't in those games, but the base Pokemon themselves are. It ensures at least trading compatability to have them programmed in.

Not being able to fully complete a Pokedex in a Pokemon game would just be odd.

I think any level of encryption would have eventually been overcome, it was just a matter of time.

I made some avatars from the 20th logo if anyone wants one.

These are brilliant, thanks!
 
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Non-compatability with X/Y defeats the objective of completing the National Pokdex within those games. It also removes the element of base compatability with X/Y. Sure, the form changes/moves aren't in those games, but the base Pokemon themselves are. It ensures at least trading compatability to have them programmed in.

And even the non-compatibility of the Mega Evolutions/Hoopa Unbound, while still inexcusable in my opinion, is at least similar in concept to new Formes being non-compatible with older games in Gens IV and V. So there is a precedent for that, but not for an actual Pokémon being non-compatible with earlier games from its own generation.
 

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And even the non-compatibility of the Mega Evolutions/Hoopa Unbound, while still inexcusable in my opinion, is at least similar in concept to new Formes being non-compatible with older games in Gens IV and V. So there is a precedent for that, but not for an actual Pokémon being non-compatible with earlier games from its own generation.

Then people need to either stop complaining when things get leaked... Or not leak them at all. 'Cause the only true options for GF are upping their games' internal security, or leaving Event Pokémon out of the games altogether until they're ready to release them.
 

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Then people need to either stop complaining when things get leaked... Or not leak them at all. 'Cause the only true options for GF are upping their games' internal security, or leaving Event Pokémon out of the games altogether until they're ready to release them.

This is really a non-issue. Fan entitlement is inevitable; they are going to complain no matter what but does that really matter? It's just people moaning about things on the Internet; nothing really "needs" to happen here. Game Freak will continue to do as they have done with Mythical Pokémon, and the people who don't like it will whine about it for a bit and then get over it. No big deal, really.
 

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This is really a non-issue. Fan entitlement is inevitable; they are going to complain no matter what but does that really matter? It's just people moaning about things on the Internet; nothing really "needs" to happen here. Game Freak will continue to do as they have done with Mythical Pokémon, and the people who don't like it will whine about it for a bit and then get over it. No big deal, really.

When the past 10 pages have been people (mostly Alexander) complaining about Volcanion and its announcement, I'm not seeing the "will whine about it for a bit and then get over it" thing, but I'll take your word for it. ;)
 

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For me, I think the new Pokémon (usually, not always, maybe a powerful Mega) and Form of Volcanion (maybe) could get revealed in February. I would just like a Z Game and that's all. Moreover, I was disappointed by Volcanion, but it is the fault of the fans, for revealing something that shouldnt have been revealed by hackers, so it was us, and not GF.
 
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