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Generation VI: The Future

What will it be?


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Okay, Reggie Fils-Amie has just confirmed that the NX is basically a home console. It's not even a handheld, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a new handheld to be announced at the same time as the NX hardware gets announced.

But having said that, Game Freak has already stated that they want to keep up with the newest technology. And Junichi Masuda has already said that he is working on using the New 3DS hardware, which points out that he plans on using the full hardware capability. And to do that would require releasing a brand new generation, which is Generation VII! And this is because the Generation VI engine is outdated and runs on old hardware and has a lot of limitations. As well as the Generation VI engine itself is not designed to handle changes in it's game data architecture, but rather to re-address the memory in the RAM itself to fix bugs. It's also not built to support DLC either, because it's simply not built to re-point the data to any other data on the SD Card that is not in RAM, it can only use updates to re-address the data in RAM to any data that is already in RAM. Hence as to why a Generation VII is needed.
 

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Okay, Reggie Fils-Amie has just confirmed that the NX is basically a home console. It's not even a handheld, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a new handheld to be announced at the same time as the NX hardware gets announced.

Really? That's peculiar that the home console is releasing before the handheld. But I guess it makes sense in light of the Wii U's performance.

But having said that, Game Freak has already stated that they want to keep up with the newest technology. And Junichi Masuda has already said that he is working on using the New 3DS hardware, which points out that he plans on using the full hardware capability. And to do that would require releasing a brand new generation, which is Generation VII! And this is because the Generation VI engine is outdated and runs on old hardware and has a lot of limitations. As well as the Generation VI engine itself is not designed to handle changes in it's game data architecture, but rather to re-address the memory in the RAM itself to fix bugs. It's also not built to support DLC either, because it's simply not built to re-point the data to any other data on the SD Card that is not in RAM, it can only use updates to re-address the data in RAM to any data that is already in RAM. Hence as to why a Generation VII is needed.

If Game Freak wants to remain up to date with the newest technology, they need to work on getting out the games faster. It usually takes them 2 years to release the next gen games and they usually end up releasing games for the previous gen hardware in that timeframe, that's not keeping up. Now we've had the New 3DS for 1-2 years and they're still working on their first game for the damn thing? Pick up the pace, Game Freak.
 

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Now we've had the New 3DS for 1-2 years and they're still working on their first game for the damn thing? Pick up the pace, Game Freak.

Since Japan has had the New 3DS for that long, I imagine that GF has been working on the game since then. They could still be working on this hypothetical game, but will probably be finished with it in time to release it in 2016.
 

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The New 3DS sounds interesting but the next main series games seems more likely to be on the regular 3DS. The next gen may go on the next system. Anyway here is possible outcomes:
1. X2 and Y2 - sequels could replace third versions. Problem is that Zygarde doesn't start with x or y in it's name but that might not be an issue.
2. Z and Yellow remake - Zygarde starts with Z but I heard that Z was too predictable. I am now open minded to Yellow remake cause it be great to start from Pallet Town again. Plus there are only two more games in gen 6 to go and I don't think they would have two kanto games take the spot when Zygarde needs closure.
3. Gen 7 - Very unlikely but because we can fill our national dex with the current four games, we may get the next gen early but like I said unlikely.
 
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I still think we'll definitely get the Frontier for ORAS, it would downright terrible for them to hint at everything they have and NOT give it to us eventually, I'm sure it'll cost $5-$10 but who's NOT going to get it? I mean, nobody will miss the Maison, or maybe the Maison will even stay or be relocated, but I'd prefer the Tower to replace it first, then the Frontier to come later, to replicate the evolution of the location from RS to E.

Well I know some (if not many) would probably feel cheated in that situation, since it could've just been a part of ORAS to begin with :s Especially after Masuda's statements, since it'd make a liar out of him...
 

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We still if the N3ds was a full upgrade and not a half grade they would have made a bigger deal out of it. Meaning it's an option tool for devs if they want the processing speed and the buttoms. I don't see Game Freak being an early adoptor considering the gen five on DS thing.
 

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It usually takes them 2 years to release the next gen games and they usually end up releasing games for the previous gen hardware in that timeframe, that's not keeping up. Now we've had the New 3DS for 1-2 years and they're still working on their first game for the damn thing? Pick up the pace, Game Freak.
Let's not get carried away: The system was only released in last October in Japan and in February in most of the world. Game Freak could have made ORAS n3DS-enhanced, but Masuda explained that he considered the New 3DS too big a jump for a mid-generation game.
 

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Oh okay:

-What's the name of this region?
-Where is it located? What's its climate?
-What's the name of this Pokemon?
-What does this Pokemon look like?
-What is its typing?
-What does it do?
-What does visit mean?
-When is the future?

It's vague and you're an idiot. For all we know, he's the set-up for Volcanion, who has also yet to be announced and, like Hoopa, also does not fit into the general Kalos "aesthetic." If they're trying to hype us for next generation, where is the tourist in ORAS? Where are the Easter Eggs for this fabulous region in that game? And there was no evidence that Kyurem was going to be handled in Gen V and look where we ended up. If you think GameFreak hasn't sat down and sorted out a general skeleton (ie., what they want to do in the generation) for future generations, you're crazy. The development (marketing, game design, etc.) isn't confined to the lifespan of the generation. I can assure you that GameFreak has already sat down and decided what they want Generation VIII to look like. They may not have all the Pokemon designed, they may have none designed, but the ideas for what Generation VIII (and other future generations) are going to look like.

Firstly, I would hope that we remove any attitudes from this discussion. I haven't insulted you. Everything I've said is factual other than my opinion that Game Freak shouldn't foreshadow anything too early. Secondly, please humor me and show me where I said Game Freak doesn't plan out the next generation years ahead of time. What you're not getting is that I said that Game Freak has no reason for getting the fans interested in the next generation four years in advance. Of course Game Freak wouldn't reveal hard, concrete details about the next generation. That's why they're opting for foreshadowing. They don't have to reveal the name of the region, the name of the Pokemon, the complete design of the Pokemon, its typing, or its role to clearly suggest that a new generation is coming soon. And what else could "visit" mean? Hell, the exact quote is "You'll see it in due time." So the fact is that we will see the region at some point. None of the foreshadowing is vague. Just because the foreshadowing isn't in ORAS doesn't mean they dropped it. The question is when we'll see the region, and I'm saying it's unfair to make us wait four years for it as that would mean there was no point in foreshadowing it. The difference between Kyurem and Zygarde is that Game Freak didn't strongly tease at Generation VI and confirm that we will be seeing it soon at the very beginning of Generation V.

Okay, Reggie Fils-Amie has just confirmed that the NX is basically a home console. It's not even a handheld, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a new handheld to be announced at the same time as the NX hardware gets announced.

Nintendo once said that their plans involve releasing a singular OS shared by multiple pieces of hardware. The NX could very well be an umbrella name meant for both the home console and handheld (and possibly other devices).

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I don't think the Souvenir tells us anything we didn't already know tbh. Pokemon has more regions out there, and they're in the works.

Once again, it's unfair to hint at something that isn't coming until four years later. They had a reason for including the Souvenir in XY, and it's ridiculous for that reason to be nothing more than letting us know that Pokemon isn't dead...
 
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Of course Game Freak wouldn't reveal hard, concrete details about the next generation. That's why they're opting for foreshadowing. They don't have to reveal the name of the region, the name of the Pokemon, the complete design of the Pokemon, its typing, or its role to suggest that a new generation is coming soon. And what else could "visit" mean? Hell, the exact quote is "You'll see it in due time." So the fact is that we will see the region at some point. None of the foreshadowing is vague. Just because the foreshadowing isn't in ORAS doesn't mean they dropped it. The question is when we'll see the region, and I'm saying it's unfair to make us wait four years for it. And no, the Souvenir doesn't depict Volcanion. The context is that the Pokemon is unknown just as the region it inhabits is unknown.

Once again, it's unfair to hint at something that isn't coming until four years later. They had a reason for including the Souvenir in XY, and it's ridiculous for that reason to be nothing more than letting us know that Pokemon isn't dead...

But what makes that any different than "foreshadowing" the next Generation? That's essentially saying the same thing. We're going to visit a new Region at some point, and this Pokemon could be in it. That is to say, they're making more games. Standard affair.

And whether or not its unfair for them to tease it this early is completely subjective. They're free to do it if they want, and...Not everyone is going to care. Its a fairly small detail, and its a given that new Generation will be made anyway. So long as Nintendo makes handhelds.

Overall it certainly doesn't rule of another Gen 6 game, especially when we know for a fact that there's things they haven't touched or dealt with officially yet.
 
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I think once it became obvious by mid 2014 that plabs for Nintendo have changed, and by 2016 focus will be on NX, GF probably changed their plans as well. What I eman is, I think the SS region is coming, but not as soon as they hoped. Something honestly tells me Gen 6 was going to be only XY/ORAS, with gen 7 tying up Kalos as well, but they decided against it. I assume gen 7 was gonna be 2016 with 2015 a break year. Now though, they probably will give us a 2016 Kalos game, with 2017 debutibg Pokemon on NX. This does allow the gen 6 ender to be special, cause national dex completuon can be brushed aside, and they can put foxus for other post league goals. Another thing is that they also have a good chunk of stuff to take from oras, and adapt it for Kalos.


If the scenario I am spexulating is too wild, I still think in the end NX changed some plans for gen 6 and when/where gen 7 debuts. I dunno if I would want N3DS games, especially considering how Nintendo itself is backing out on N3DS exclusives.
 

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And whether or not its unfair for them to tease it this early is completely subjective. They're free to do it if they want, and...Not everyone is going to care. Its a fairly small detail, and its a given that new Generation will be made anyway. So long as Nintendo makes handhelds.

Even if the idea that it's unfair is subjective, it should be a sentiment that Game Freak agrees with, but regardless, the point still stands that they did it for a reason. I think what's far more agreeable is that it is pointless to confirm that there will be a Generation VII. The point I've been basing my entire position on is that, if we're speaking of likelihood, Game Freak had a reason for foreshadowing the next generation beyond letting the few doubtful people know that it will exist.

I know not everyone is going to care. If you're suggesting that few people would care, then that would be pretty unfortunate. I figured that most people would be excited by the prospect of a new generation being foreshadowed in the first release of the current generation. In other words, it would be strange if people were invested in the foreshadowing and then decided to let it go if it didn't equate to something we didn't already expect. I feel only those who didn't expect something different as per the foreshadowing wouldn't care.
 
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Whether something is unfair or not, the Strange Souvenir is definitely one of the most blatant pieces of foreshadowing that we've seen so far, at least from what I remember as far back as Crystal. If Game Freak wanted to keep things simple and subtle with it, they could have easily just left the Backpaker with his dialogue as is without handing you the Strange Souvenir. That's just my take on it though.

Even though it's likely a default/placeholder design, it's interesting to note how it resembles a moai statue like the ones found on Easter Island. Easter Island is just off the western coast of South America, so I wonder if our Gen 7 region is going to be based in South America this time. Which would be awesome, they have so many diverse species of animals to base 'mons from. Not to mention all of the ancient landmarks that they could get ideas from as well. But, that's all for another topic.
 

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I'm going to bet that the Stranger Souvenir is actually nothing and it was just something to keep fans speculating. To make fans guess what it is and what it is going to do, to help keep the series relevant.

I highly doubt the SS is a red herring. It's definitely a real Pokémon, but whether we get it in 2016 or 2036 remains to be seen. Just look at Tirtouga! It was originally meant for Generation 2 and we got it 10 years later in Generation 5.
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I couldn't help but notice that the Strange Souvenir resembles a moai statue, which are found on Easter Island. It could be just a placeholder image until the designs of the Legendary it represents are finalized, BUT... then why reveal its existence so early?

Whether something is unfair or not, the Strange Souvenir is definitely one of the most blatant pieces of foreshadowing that we've seen so far, at least from what I remember as far back as Crystal. If Game Freak wanted to keep things simple and subtle with it, they could have easily just left the Backpaker with his dialogue as is without handing you the Strange Souvenir. That's just my take on it though.

Even though it's likely a default/placeholder design, it's interesting to note how it resembles a moai statue like the ones found on Easter Island. Easter Island is just off the western coast of South America, so I wonder if our Gen 7 region is going to be based in South America this time. Which would be awesome, they have so many diverse species of animals to base 'mons from. Not to mention all of the ancient landmarks that they could get ideas from as well. But, that's all for another topic.

To be fair, Nosepass and Probopass are also based off of the Easter Island heads, but they're not from an Oceania-based region. I personally would love an actual JUNGLE region, but it's sadly not guaranteed (we didn't get an African region with Pyroar or a Chinese region with Pancham, for example).

What I'm wondering is why everyone's calling the SS Pokémon a "legendary"? It's only stated to be a guardian/protector Pokémon. It could be like Lucario from Movie 8 (the protector of the Kingdom of Rota), or Sceptile (said to be the guardian of the forests in its Dex entries), and there's countless other cases of this as well.

I personally think it could just be a random Pokémon.
 

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I wouldn't say foreshadowing so early is unfair; we've been getting foreshadowed pokemon well before their generation since Togepi. The only difference is how vague it is, it's earliness, and how it showed up in a main game rather than a spinoff.
And if anything, it showing up in a Main game most definitely solidifies that it will be relevant. Maybe we'll be able to transfer it over through a special Pokemon Bank feature, because it's definitely something they'll upgrade along with every generation.
I wouldn't dismiss the strange souvenir just yet, it sounds like something meant for an upcoming generation.
 

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I too am interested in the Stranger Souvenir. It seems like it may foreshadow something. But some items never got used such as Lock Capsule (not sure) and Azure Flute. So there is a danger of the item not being used in future games. I will keep an open mind and hope that the Stranger Souvenir would unveil something in a later game.
 

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I would like to clarify that the Strange Souvenir most likely isn't meant to unlock anything, especially given the fact that it can be discarded. It's just used as a means of foreshadowing.
 

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What I'm wondering is why everyone's calling the SS Pokémon a "legendary"? It's only stated to be a guardian/protector Pokémon. It could be like Lucario from Movie 8 (the protector of the Kingdom of Rota), or Sceptile (said to be the guardian of the forests in its Dex entries), and there's countless other cases of this as well.

I personally think it could just be a random Pokémon.

When it comes to Pokémon being venerated(worshipped, held with great respect, blah blah), Legendary 'mons have usually been the ones that get the majority of attention in the games.
 

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What I'm wondering is why everyone's calling the SS Pokémon a "legendary"? It's only stated to be a guardian/protector Pokémon. It could be like Lucario from Movie 8 (the protector of the Kingdom of Rota), or Sceptile (said to be the guardian of the forests in its Dex entries), and there's countless other cases of this as well.

I personally think it could just be a random Pokémon.

When it comes to Pokémon being venerated(worshipped, held with great respect, blah blah), Legendary 'mons have usually been the ones that get the majority of attention in the games.

True, but we've seen special cases before. Azalea Town comes to mind, as does Pastoria City. They venerate Slowpoke and Croagunk, respectively. If this region is a smaller one (makes sense if it's a post-game region like Sevii) it wouldn't be so out there for a regular Pokémon to be the protector of the entire town.

I just can't see a legendary that has the same inspiration as Nosepass and Probopass. What powers would it even have?
 

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What I'm wondering is why everyone's calling the SS Pokémon a "legendary"? It's only stated to be a guardian/protector Pokémon. It could be like Lucario from Movie 8 (the protector of the Kingdom of Rota), or Sceptile (said to be the guardian of the forests in its Dex entries), and there's countless other cases of this as well.

I personally think it could just be a random Pokémon.

When it comes to Pokémon being venerated(worshipped, held with great respect, blah blah), Legendary 'mons have usually been the ones that get the majority of attention in the games.

True, but we've seen special cases before. Azalea Town comes to mind, as does Pastoria City. They venerate Slowpoke and Croagunk, respectively. If this region is a smaller one (makes sense if it's a post-game region like Sevii) it wouldn't be so out there for a regular Pokémon to be the protector of the entire town.

I just can't see a legendary that has the same inspiration as Nosepass and Probopass. What powers would it even have?

An item from a faraway region from Kalos that resembles Probopass? SINNOH CONFIRMED.

Like I had mentioned earlier, the design of the Item may be some sort of placeholder/stock image or what-have-you since they either don't have the finalized design of said 'mon, or don't want to spoil us about what a future 'mon may look like. With that said, I'm thinking that maybe the particular design of the SS may be more of a hint towards where the next region might be based off of. Not specifically Easter Island, but a larger landmass close by, aka South America. I don't know 'bout y'all, but I think it's high time they start exploring Mew's origins 'n stuff a little more. "Back to basics", Sugimori says. *hinthintwinkwink* (On a side-note, I find it kind of odd that Ken Sugimori starts releasing all of these Gym Leader artworks a few months after he says they'll start "going back to basics" when he was asked about Gen 7 in that one interview)

I would be really interested in exploring Mew's true home region, since Kanto really isn't it's "original" home region in a sense.
 

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(On a side-note, I find it kind of odd that Ken Sugimori starts releasing all of these Gym Leader artworks a few months after he says they'll start "going back to basics" when he was asked about Gen 7 in that one interview)
The "reverting to simplicity" quote is from November 2013 right after XY's release.

I would be really interested in exploring Mew's true home region, since Kanto really isn't it's "original" home region in a sense.
It's Guyana, and that is exactly why I've been thinking they should do ever since I saw the Strange Souvenir, even though it doesn't point to Guyana specifically. It helps that the XY anime referenced Guyana (or a part of it) as "one of the last unexplored regions in the world", which is suspicious.
 
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