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Generation VI: The Future

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I think that the stuff about the Fairy-type being recently discovered and Mega Evolution starting with Lucario will probably be retconned in the next Kalos installments to tie-in with ORAS better. Fairy and Mega Evolution was stated to be new in XY probably because it was new in those games, since XY were the opening pair for Gen 6. If my memory is correct, the original GSC stated that breeding and the Dark and Steel types were recently discovered, only for HGSS to retcon those statements.
 

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To b perfectly honest I think the whole concept of "canon" in terms of video games is kind of dumb....I kno I've supported the current timeline, but it just gets tiresome....When it comes to these types of games u can't really say that one game is canon and one isn't.......It also gets crazy if try and defend it using the multi-universe stuff being thrown into the mix.........sometimes u just gotta accept that with each new game there will b changes and going back to other games and trying to justify y the new stuff isn't in them is, in a lot of ways, a waste of time. The reason the new stuff isn't in old games is bc 1) they didn't think of it yet or 2) they weren't ready to implement it yet. Trying to make a straight up "canon" in my opinion is just dumb and tiresome.....everyone is gonna have a different side on the matter lol
 

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Whatever game we're getting next year it would most definitely have to be the last game of Generation 6. There is no way I can see them extending this generation until 2018. It would just seem absurd for this generation to last fives years. I just don't see anything from this generation with that much substance that could make it last for so long.

One thing I am not expecting next year is Generation 7. It would just seem too rushed if they did that. Not only would it seemed rushed but we don't even have a legitimate way to obtain Eternal Flower Floette. Then there is Volcanion which has yet to even be revealed or distributed and let's not forget Zygarde with its two moves which it has no way of learning in any of the current Generation 6 games, moves which can potentially be related to either new forms or Mega Evolution.

I was expecting that there'd be a game released for the 20th anniversary next year in February but for some reason I'm not anymore. I'm not saying that there isn't anything special that could be done for the 20th anniversary but why would it have to correlate with a new game being released? For all we know they could just re-release Red and Green on the 3DS eShop with probably some kind of connectivity to the Generation 6 games or hell I know this seems kind of crazy to suggest but maybe even updated versions of Red and Green on the 3DS eShop that include new things such as Mega Evolution for the Kanto Pokémon that are known to be able to Mega Evolve. I mean games aren't the only way they could commemorate the 20th anniversary, they could also release countless amounts of merchandise. Something of an example is like the Brock figure that was revealed not too long ago.

What I am expecting now is a Kalos game for the final game of Generation 6. I was thinking maybe something similar to a third version (like Platinum) but with two separate entries instead. This wouldn't be the Pokémon "Z" people are speculating about and not sequels either so no predictability would be involved. The games would serve as retcons for the stories that X & Y presented us with. Obviously in these two titles Zygarde would play a major role along with Xerneas (in Version A) and Yveltal (in Version B). I'm thinking that in these games Lysandre goes mad due to the Ultimate Weapon having backfired on itself and successfully manages to capture Xerneas/Yveltal before Calem/Serena do. He leaves the headquarters in a fit of rage and causes major damage throughout a good part of the Kalos region with the power of the Legends. The present destruction causes Zygarde to leave its dwelling place where it must put a stop to Xerneas/Yveltal with its "secret power" and restore the region to its previous state. In these games Sycamore would actually have knowledge of Mega Evolution being something that originated in Hoenn. Instead of Lucario being the first Pokémon that Mega Evolved it would be referenced that it was the first Pokémon to Mega Evolve by use of a Mega Stone (the Lucarionite) something as of which the first Pokémon to Mega Evolve (Rayquaza) did not need. They could introduce new Mega Evolutions in these games such as for the Kalos Starters, Pokémon from Generation 5 and, several others too. AZ instead of keeping his Floette like in X & Y would entrust her to you. We'd probably see Malva outside of the Elite Four and her interaction and part within Team Flare aside from her hate towards the main character for causing the team to break up. All this plus a lot more could be done in these two entries.
 

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I was expecting that there'd be a game released for the 20th anniversary next year in February but for some reason I'm not anymore. I'm not saying that there isn't anything special that could be done for the 20th anniversary but why would it have to correlate with a new game being released? For all we know they could just re-release Red and Green on the 3DS eShop with probably some kind of connectivity to the Generation 6 games or hell I know this seems kind of crazy to suggest but maybe even updated versions of Red and Green on the 3DS eShop that include new things such as Mega Evolution for the Kanto Pokémon that are known to be able to Mega Evolve. I mean games aren't the only way they could commemorate the 20th anniversary, they could also release countless amounts of merchandise. Something of an example is like the Brock figure that was revealed not too long ago.

What I am expecting now is a Kalos game for the final game of Generation 6. I was thinking maybe something similar to a third version (like Platinum) but with two separate entries instead. This wouldn't be the Pokémon "Z" people are speculating about and not sequels either so no predictability would be involved. The games would serve as retcons for the stories that X & Y presented us with. Obviously in these two titles Zygarde would play a major role along with Xerneas (in Version A) and Yveltal (in Version B). I'm thinking that in these games Lysandre goes mad due to the Ultimate Weapon having backfired on itself and successfully manages to capture Xerneas/Yveltal before Calem/Serena do. He leaves the headquarters in a fit of rage and causes major damage throughout a good part of the Kalos region with the power of the Legends. The present destruction causes Zygarde to leave its dwelling place where it must put a stop to Xerneas/Yveltal with its "secret power" and restore the region to its previous state. In these games Sycamore would actually have knowledge of Mega Evolution being something that originated in Hoenn. Instead of Lucario being the first Pokémon that Mega Evolved it would be referenced that it was the first Pokémon to Mega Evolve by use of a Mega Stone (the Lucarionite) something as of which the first Pokémon to Mega Evolve (Rayquaza) did not need. They could introduce new Mega Evolutions in these games such as for the Kalos Starters, Pokémon from Generation 5 and, several others too. AZ instead of keeping his Floette like in X & Y would entrust her to you. We'd probably see Malva outside of the Elite Four and her interaction and part within Team Flare aside from her hate towards the main character for causing the team to break up. All this plus a lot more could be done in these two entries.

I'm also thinking it's entirely possible if we get something else instead of game releases for the 20th. But if they do plan on releasing a game or games to commemorate the 20th, I sure hope they come up with something that will blow my socks and underwear off. *ska-doosh*

I don't know, if the next game is going to be centered on Zygarde(which I think it probably will, but honestly who knows at this point), I'd like to see it duke it out with both Xerneas and Yveltal. When you got all 3 of the mascot Legendaries involved with the plot, it makes the story more interesting. But on the other hand, they did do a good job with B2/W2 when using just Kyurem and Zekrom or Reshiram... although I was kind of hoping that we would find out what it would have been like if they were supposed to be 3 parts of a whole dragon.
 
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Maybe XY itself was an alternate universe form ORAS?

I think that's one of the only ways this makes sense. lol.

The creation of multiple Megaverses instead of just the one could even be part of the "distortions" that Zinnia talked about.

I know that the timeline was officially revealed, but I still prefer to believe in my theory that there are three timelines: the main game timeline, the third version timeline, and the remake timeline.

The main game timeline includes Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire, Diamond/Pearl, Black/White, Black 2/White 2 and X/Y. In this timeline, Steven is the champion of Hoenn. Wallace was the champion before losing his position to Steven, hence why he participates in the Champions Tournament of the PWT. After losing his position as champion, Juan left his position as gym leader and gave it to his student Wallace. Mega evolution was first discovered by a man from the Kalos region and his Lucario.

The third version timeline includes Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum. In this timeline, Wallace is the champion of Hoenn, while Juan is the Sootopolis gym leader. Steven is just a strong wandering trainer. It's the only timeline where the fairy-type and mega evolution don't exist, or at least haven't been discovered.

The remake timeline includes FireRed/LeafGreen, HearthGold/SoulSilver and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire. In this timeline, Steven is the champion of Hoenn and Wallace is the Sootopolis gym leader. Juan's role is unknown. Mega evolution originated from Rayquaza in ancient times.

What do you think? I personally don't see any flaws.

I do like the idea of splitting things up this way, although BW/BW2 make a few direct references to Platinum and HGSS. Cynthia once mentions Lucas/Dawn facing Giratina, and Caitlin talks about her old Battle Castles in Johto and Sinnoh.
 
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I thought about ORAS and X/Y being in separate Mega-universes as well, but then we have stuff like how the O-Powers guy came into existence and the fact that the Kalos War and AZ's weapon are referenced. Not to mention AZ himself had traveled to Hoenn in the past and planted that big tree in front of the Cave of Origin, as well as having witnessed Rayquaza's 2nd Mega-Evolution. Zinnia referencing the weapon, the war, and then talking about Mega-Evolution's existence(and the possibility of non-existence in a different universe)while doing so heavily implies that X/Y and ORAs are in the same Mega-verse.
How do those events deny the possibility of Mega-verse being split into two? All of them could happen in ORAS Mega-verse, whereas in XY Mega-verse, only the events that took place in Kalos would happen, explaining why Mega Evolution is described to be Kalos exclusive in XY.

Even though the potential for multiple universes has been opened up, there's absolutely nothing other than the continuity issues that disproves X/Y and ORAS being in the same universe. For right now, unless we get another game that straightens it out and ties ORAS and X/Y together, we have to put the blame on Game Freak for not getting their crap straightened out. We have more evidence that puts X/Y and ORAS in the same Mega-verse than we do that says they're separate.
You didn't answer what exactly makes those events deny the possibility of two Mega-verses, things like Kalos war, O-Power guy going to Kalos or other Kalos events could easily happen in ORAS Mega-verse. Even when future games retcon Kalos to not treat ME as Kalos only thing, XY themselves will still stay as they are, contradicting with ORAS. That's why I think XY should be treated as separate Mega-verse. It would be kinda similar to remakes released so far which are treated as happening in universe different from original games because of retconning things.
 

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I wish they didn't introduce the multi universe thing since it now complicates things. But whats done is done and I have to accept it. Anyway, my ideas on next Kalos games:
mega/primal evolutions of Zygarde, Kalos starters get mega evolutions, the Battle Chateau is improved so that gym leaders, elite four and champion have full teams, post game story which features Mewtwo and Mew (if Kanto remakes don't happen), 5th gen pokemon like Hydreigon would gain megas, other 6 gens like Goodra has mega evolution, another mythical pokemon becomes available (if Mewtwo/Mew post game story doesn't happen), some new characters introduced, some new forms for pokemon and a new area to explore after main story.
 

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My idea for the next game would be something like XZ/YZ or whatever makes sense. There would be a new part of Kalos to explore like in BW2, but expanded upon, kind of like kanto/johto, same overall chunk of land, different gyms (but revisit old ones), but no new pokemon, new megas and forms sure, but no dex entry past 721 before gen 7. It could be a sequel or something, with Lysandre somehow making it out alive, starting crap up with the other legend that X/Y MC didn't get, so Zygarde changes into like, a Xerneas-esque form to stop Yveltal' s rampage and vice versa. Oh, and most importantly, ACTUAL POST GAME CONTENT. It's stupid and unlikely, I know, but I like stupid things.
 

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Hm... Just. Thought for the naming process if they go with the 2 sequels route: Z^x and Z^y (obviously those would be superscript and not carrots, I'm on my phone here). Idk why, just seems like everyone says ZX and ZY. idk if either makes sense mathematically with the axes idea they went with when calling the first ones X and Y, but I just think the exponents look cooler.
 

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I thought about ORAS and X/Y being in separate Mega-universes as well, but then we have stuff like how the O-Powers guy came into existence and the fact that the Kalos War and AZ's weapon are referenced. Not to mention AZ himself had traveled to Hoenn in the past and planted that big tree in front of the Cave of Origin, as well as having witnessed Rayquaza's 2nd Mega-Evolution. Zinnia referencing the weapon, the war, and then talking about Mega-Evolution's existence(and the possibility of non-existence in a different universe)while doing so heavily implies that X/Y and ORAs are in the same Mega-verse.
How do those events deny the possibility of Mega-verse being split into two? All of them could happen in ORAS Mega-verse, whereas in XY Mega-verse, only the events that took place in Kalos would happen, explaining why Mega Evolution is described to be Kalos exclusive in XY.

Even though the potential for multiple universes has been opened up, there's absolutely nothing other than the continuity issues that disproves X/Y and ORAS being in the same universe. For right now, unless we get another game that straightens it out and ties ORAS and X/Y together, we have to put the blame on Game Freak for not getting their crap straightened out. We have more evidence that puts X/Y and ORAS in the same Mega-verse than we do that says they're separate.
You didn't answer what exactly makes those events deny the possibility of two Mega-verses, things like Kalos war, O-Power guy going to Kalos or other Kalos events could easily happen in ORAS Mega-verse. Even when future games retcon Kalos to not treat ME as Kalos only thing, XY themselves will still stay as they are, contradicting with ORAS. That's why I think XY should be treated as separate Mega-verse. It would be kinda similar to remakes released so far which are treated as happening in universe different from original games because of retconning things.

I thought I did, oh well.

I'm hoping and kind of speculating that they'll pull a Platinum on us: giving us a game(s) that fixes all if not most of the problems that occurred in the first 2 games. Plus an expanded storyline, and I'm really hoping to do another "episode" for the post-game. Even though I was ok with the Looker quest in X/Y, the Delta Episode in ORAS did a much better job.
 

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I'm really hoping to do another "episode" for the post-game. Even though I was ok with the Looker quest in X/Y, the Delta Episode in ORAS did a much better job.

Oh goodness me too. Also speaking of Looker what's the deal with him in ORAS? Is the poor guy just going to stay sitting within a cottage wondering who and where he is? It just seems so strange that they didn't do anything further with it.

I'm thinking that perhaps they could do some kind of flashback in a potential upcoming Kalos game where he alludes to the player that he had lost his memory in the past. The flashback could show how he managed to regain his memory. If they don't I guess the only thing to do is assume that he just gave up on remembering who he was and just decided to take on a new identity.
 

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I'm really hoping to do another "episode" for the post-game. Even though I was ok with the Looker quest in X/Y, the Delta Episode in ORAS did a much better job.

Oh goodness me too. Also speaking of Looker what's the deal with him in ORAS? Is the poor guy just going to stay sitting within a cottage wondering who and where he is? It just seems so strange that they didn't do anything further with it.

I'm thinking that perhaps they could do some kind of flashback in a potential upcoming Kalos game where he alludes to the player that he had lost his memory in the past. The flashback could show how he managed to regain his memory. If they don't I guess the only thing to do is assume that he just gave up on remembering who he was and just decided to take on a new identity.

You know the name "Looker" takes on a whole new meaning when one takes his amnsesia and the tentative placement of ORAS (it comes before the other games where he appears in) into account.

Maybe he joined the international police using the name "Looker" as an alias (as for the Handsome thing, I think he picked that as an appropriated nickname form the model at the clubhouse and derived his Looker alias from both that and his goal) He's looking for his memories.

As for the Interpol connection, I think he might have had gradually discovered skills he forgot he had, skills that would be useful for police...or criminal work. He decided that working with Interpol, since he washed up on an island likely far away from home, would help him search his memory. Along the way he might have found and trained a Crogunk, which eventualy died during one of his missions. Eventually he turned up Kalos, feeling a sense of familiarity there decided to investigate there. After arresting Xerosic, he got an assignment at a nearby region leaving Emma with his temporary base of operations and continuing his quest.

Or it might just be yet another continuity problem arising from the XY tie-ins
 

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I could see a 20th anniversary rgby remake along with Z being released next year. Or they could just include Kanto in Z or X2Y2.
 

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If Kanto remake happens this gen then it has to be a single game because if there are two Kanto games, then there is no more room for Kalos since there are only two more games for gen 6. Yellow remake alongside Z or whatever the next Kalos game is called. I like to see closure on Zygarde as I stated in other posts and there are some evidence of another game for Kalos.
 

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If Kanto remake happens this gen then it has to be a single game because if there are two Kanto games, then there is no more room for Kalos since there are only two more games for gen 6. Yellow remake alongside Z or whatever the next Kalos game is called. I like to see closure on Zygarde as I stated in other posts and there are some evidence of another game for Kalos.

Um, do we have proof that Yellow is being remade (and I mean proof, nor rumors)
 

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If Kanto remake happens this gen then it has to be a single game because if there are two Kanto games, then there is no more room for Kalos since there are only two more games for gen 6. Yellow remake alongside Z or whatever the next Kalos game is called. I like to see closure on Zygarde as I stated in other posts and there are some evidence of another game for Kalos.

Um, do we have proof that Yellow is being remade (and I mean proof, nor rumors)

I think everyone just says Yellow for another Kanto remake bc it's the only single Kanto game that they can make without it being weird pairing it up with a Kalos game.
 

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I think everyone just says Yellow for another Kanto remake bc it's the only single Kanto game that they can make without it being weird pairing it up with a Kalos game.

Or they could just make a new Kanto game with a new/adapted story line and call it "Pokémon Orange Edition" or something similar/another colour.
 

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If Kanto remake happens this gen then it has to be a single game because if there are two Kanto games, then there is no more room for Kalos since there are only two more games for gen 6. Yellow remake alongside Z or whatever the next Kalos game is called. I like to see closure on Zygarde as I stated in other posts and there are some evidence of another game for Kalos.

Um, do we have proof that Yellow is being remade (and I mean proof, nor rumors)

We don't have proof any of the Kanto games are being remade. People would just prefer Yellow to be remade. Red and Green got remade and Blue had its time to shine worldwide. Yellow's been forgotten. Mostly because it did such a bad job at being an anime adaptation. (Probably why Crystal, Emerald, Platinum and a theoretical Grey never followed suit.)
 

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Do any of y'all think that there'll be an announcement this year? I mean between mystery dungeon and the freemium games, there almost certainly won't be a main series release, but is an announcement for one sometime this year also out of the question?
 

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Do any of y'all think that there'll be an announcement this year? I mean between mystery dungeon and the freemium games, there almost certainly won't be a main series release, but is an announcement for one sometime this year also out of the question?
At this point, if there was any announcement, it would be for an early 2016 release probably. I dont see an announcement being very likely though.
 
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