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Gold and Silver DS: Discussion, Debate, Wishlists

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Vib

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I think I broke the page...

ANYWAY, I'm excited. Nothing we do can stop it now! HEEEHEEE! Whoo! It's HERE! ITS COMING! I"M EXCITED!

YES!!

What will your teams be?

Mine:

Typhlosion
Lugia
Red Gyarados
Sneasel (if you can get it in Ice Cave a la Crystal)
Pidgeot/Skarmory
Umbreon
?????

Any Ideas?
 

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More like around 3 hours and 30 minutes till it starts with an old episode then progresses to the announcement.

who cares about the announcement, most of us are waiting for the episode of the anime!

...right?

As for teams, I'll use Feraligatr/Fearow/Vileplume/Heracross/Mismagius/Steelix on Silver
and Typhlosion/Kingdra/Crobat/Weavile/Heracross/Red Gyarados on Gold
 

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jeez, what the heck happened to the page?

Anyway, here's what I think on Pokemon from other gens being obtainable

-- In a nod to Emerald providing a choice from the three Johto starters, HGSS will provide a choice from the three Hoenn starters. In addition, the Kanto starters may be obtainable somehow (possibly from Oak)
-- Mewtwo will either be back in a rebuilt Unknown Dungeon or somewhere in the Sevii Islands (my money's on either Birth Island or maybe the old Rocket Building); also, the Berserk Gene will make its return as a hold item that powers up Mewtwo (and is removed during trade and link battle, like the Griseous Orb)
-- Kyogre and Groudon are found at Naval Rock. Kyogre down below in the water, Groudon up top (having now turned the peak into a volcanic crater). Alternatively, Groudon is found in a new room in Mt. Ember.
-- After catching Kyogre and Groudon, Rayquaza can now be found atop the now-abandoned Trainer Tower
-- Deoxys may be on Birth Island (if Mewtwo is not)
-- Jirachi will get some sort of event, either being the Pokemon behind Kanto's White Rock or its own island; also, I can't remember where I heard it, but I like the idea of its event taking a week (like the GS Ball event taking a day) in regards to its legend.
 

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Ack! I wasn't factoring in new Evos! And heracross! WHOOPS.
 

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The page seemes messed up sometimes for me, other times it loads fine.

Hoping Mewtwo is found in Celeruean Cave like in FR/LG (for nostalgia really)

All 3 dogs made available in one game, maybe see one like suicuine at the lake of rage (or something related to a lake) then when you see them they roam, or maybe have them like 3 birds in FR/LG and have them so you can battle them without roaming, and keep respawning legendaries like Platinum had, one good idea they had there!

-- In a nod to Emerald providing a choice from the three Johto starters, HGSS will provide a choice from the three Hoenn starters. In addition, the Kanto starters may be obtainable somehow (possibly from Oak)

I thought you could get the choice of Johto starters in RS as well as Emerald? I'd like th potion of when you reach professor Oak, you get the choice of Kanto starter or at least see them. I hope the pokedex works like Sinnoh dex, and you just have to see all the pokemon to complete the dex and then you get national dex.

Also, I'd like to see the E4 and champion getting different or netter pokemon after you beat them and get national dex, just to make things harder like how it was done in FR/LG.

Still hoping for a GTS like system, be stupid not to have such a system.
 

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I really want to know that new thing he is on about, must be something big or at least good
 

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I'm not worried about what it has, just so long as you can trade with DPP and uses the GTS. I'm just gonna focus on getting as many pokemon as possible, since I'm only 19 away from filling my pearl dex and all involve johto pokemon.(Although better english names would be cooler.)Oh, and berry trees! Not like Fr/Lg.
 

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I really want to know that new thing he is on about, must be something big or at least good
Yeah. Beisdes a more fleshed out breeding system and visual changes for Pokemon I wonder what else. I am sure he is legit cause I am sure I can place a bet that the stockart will be shown.
 

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The page seemes messed up sometimes for me, other times it loads fine.

Hoping Mewtwo is found in Celeruean Cave like in FR/LG (for nostalgia really)

All 3 dogs made available in one game, maybe see one like suicuine at the lake of rage (or something related to a lake) then when you see them they roam, or maybe have them like 3 birds in FR/LG and have them so you can battle them without roaming, and keep respawning legendaries like Platinum had, one good idea they had there!



I thought you could get the choice of Johto starters in RS as well as Emerald? I'd like th potion of when you reach professor Oak, you get the choice of Kanto starter or at least see them. I hope the pokedex works like Sinnoh dex, and you just have to see all the pokemon to complete the dex and then you get national dex.

Also, I'd like to see the E4 and champion getting different or netter pokemon after you beat them and get national dex, just to make things harder like how it was done in FR/LG.

Still hoping for a GTS like system, be stupid not to have such a system.

Even though Mewtwo in the Cave would be great, it most likely won't happen, as GS is in the same timeline as RBY, so Red caught/defeated Mewtwo.

I would like to see a complete (okay, maybe NOT complete) Cerulean cave without Mewtwo, with the Beserk Gene at the END, and post Nat-Dex, you can find rare Hoenn/Sinnoh Pokemon there.

I think the whole "Wake the sleeping beasts" works well, but either you see them THEN, or they go to seperate places (e.g.Suicune to Lake of Rage, Raikou to somewhere in Goldenrod, Entei to Cianwood maybe? No, I don't like that) and see them there, though that sounds a bit shaky.

They should include (with or without an event pokemon is TBD) the Regi trio or something, though they probably won't, to encourage cross game trading.

I say slim the "new dex" down to all the pokemon you see in Johto, but change some teams in order for it to work (GO AWAY LANCE'S CHARIZARD AND AERODACTYL! YOU RUINED MY IDEA!) well, then see 'em all, and when you get to Pallet, Oak gives you a starter of your choice. OR, maybe Kanto is now Nat Dex ONLY, like the fight Area. That sounds probable.

E4 did the same thing in FRLG, just with levels and no new pokemon. I think it should follow platinum's example.

They HAVE to include a GTS. They would lose potential customers.
Maybe there is a seperate server for Johto Dex holders only, though.

"Oh, I want a Furret! Those are cool. Let's see what someone wants for one on the good ol' GTS!"

"Uh.... What's a Dialga"

Situations like that will be potentially rampant.
Global Terminal in Goldenrod sound good.

As per the trainer house, this sound like a Global Battle Terminal? It's been put in PBR, and I think its HIGH TIME that the DS games got a random battle feature.

Eh? Eh?

You can also battle your friend's previous teams, or, if you have no friends/wifi, you can battle Cal/Kayla.

Eh? Eh?
 

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Even though Mewtwo in the Cave would be great, it most likely won't happen, as GS is in the same timeline as RBY, so Red caught/defeated Mewtwo.

Didn't the time capsule kinda prove the timeline of RBY was not the same as GSC?
 

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Didn't the time capsule kinda prove the timeline of RBY was not the same as GSC?
I think the fact that it was stated that this is 3 years ahead as a sequel is a fact. :sweatlol: Anyway yeah. Seeing as this will be a sequel to FR/LG ( I mean follow up were the words used so yeah thats a given) I can expect the Sevii Islands to be in there. Just imagine though in 3 years time they became famous and more developed. Enough for a frontier facility on each island..
 

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Just imagine though in 3 years time they became famous and more developed. Enough for a frontier facility on each island..

This is one of the most exciting possibilities I've heard in this whole thread. :D It's not very likely, but it would be excellent.
 

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XD but it is possible. After hearing about the trainer tower the Tower Tycoon heard of it. Travelling there he saw some underdeveloped islands. So he decided to move his tower to the trainer tower and open more buildings. Thus the Sevii Islands became the Sevii-Battle Islands. Seven battles get it? I dream too much.
 

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I changed my mind on my team Im basing it offf my friends team in memory of how they were raised to Level 100 and how the battery eventually died

Typhlosion, Kingdra, Hoothoot, Espeon, Bellussom, Forrtress
 

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Seeing as this will be a sequel to FR/LG ( I mean follow up were the words used so yeah thats a given) I can expect the Sevii Islands to be in there. Just imagine though in 3 years time they became famous and more developed. Enough for a frontier facility on each island..

This would be the best thing to do with the Sevii Islands to actually make them work playing through. If they were desperate for a place to put Battle Frontier areas, Battle Tents, or Contest Halls outside of Johto and Kanto - Sevii would be the place to do it.

Even though Mewtwo in the Cave would be great, it most likely won't happen, as GS is in the same timeline as RBY, so Red caught/defeated Mewtwo.

Capturing Mewtwo was an optional event. By this logic, FRLG gave Red the opportunity to capture Entei, Raikou, and Suicine so they logically shouldn't be around for HGSS.
 

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It's funny. I'm hearing voices to change almost everything from GSC (because exact remake would be boring), yet I'm hearing voices to include almost everything from FR/LG... God... THAT would be really boring!

Really, I don't think if Mewtwo's cave is the thing they should bring back... I mean, again in the same place? Mewtwo would stay in the same cave for three years? Come on. Someone would catch it or it would escape (two versions of Mewtwo's fate - it was caught by Red and the cave collapsed itself or Mewtwo destroyed the cave while struggling to escape [and it succeeded]). I think it would make much more sense plot-wise if they moved Mewtwo to somewhere else (to Sevii or some new, hidden place in Kanto). If Game Freak want to include Mewtwo, they should build a new plot for him, so the player would know what he's going to catch (and to build a better adventure). This critter REQUIRES some kind of plot!

Also, I don't think if FR/LG nostalgia is what we need in HGSS. I think that the game should be made entirely of GSC nostalgia. So the player could say "Ah! Three years ago there was a cave here. Now, there's just that freakin' Berserk Gene".

So, in general, I think that Cerulean Cave with Mewtwo is not what we need. Mewtwo wants something new for him!

I also think that making Sevii a Frontier-like facility in general would suck out the whole adventure from it. The Frontier-like tournament battles are good when you're done with completing the game and have absolutely nothing more to do. The new sub-region we're awaiting should be something full of travelling and adventures... Scattering the Frontier-style facilities would not work. (Gyms would, but we already have 16 of them in Johto and Kanto. That's enough!)
 
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Capturing Mewtwo was an optional event. By this logic, FRLG gave Red the opportunity to capture Entei, Raikou, and Suicine so they logically shouldn't be around for HGSS.

The difference here is that the beasts were put in FR/LG just because of availability, and they have no role in the game's plot, wereas Mewtwo did have one in RGBY and FR/LG, as the beasts in GSC. So I think that the Cerulean cave should not return (not to mention its role was taken by Silver Cave in GSC) and instead Mewtwo needs a new location, assuming he will be in-game catchable (I think it's more probable he'll be an event Pokémon).
 
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