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Gold and Silver DS: Discussion, Debate, Wishlists

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If it is extended to every Pokemon then there probably will be an option in the Pokemon menu (summary, fly, surf, other hm moves, switch, item, cancel) I'd think it would be called "follow" to send it out and "return" to recall it to its Pokeball. If it is just the starter Pokemon then it would probably be under the options menu or by talking to a person (in-game).

Personally, I doubt it will be limited to starters because the concept IS based around Pikachu, so it would be silly to not at least give you the option to do that with Pikachu as well.
 

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If the image is true, there's also something west of Cianwood =O
It's an old confirmed fake; the only difference is someone changed the text in the bottom from "Johto" in English from the original fake to some Japanese.
 

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Also note that New Bark Town now lives up to its name

Its really is the place were new winds blow now because they showed wind blowing odds are the graphics in this game will make DP look so bad
 

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Also note that New Bark Town now lives up to its name

Its really is the place were new winds blow now because they showed wind blowing odds are the graphics in this game will make DP look so bad
Agreed. Holy hell does that look amazing. Also Rofl starters following you around? Whats that? Oh nothing my typhlosion it doesn't like pokeballs. :kawaii:
I cannot wait for this!
 

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As far as obtainable Pokemon go, I'd like:
the RBY or RSE starters to be available (maybe something like the GSC starters in Emerald, you can only get one?)
Mewtwo (an excuse to leave Cerulean Cave open!)
Mew (via Mystery Gift maybe? idk)
Celebi EVENT!
[email protected]

Part of me would like Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza, but that'd feel like overkill.

But it'd be mainly to make up for the fact that you can get all these legendaries within DPP. And to make Pal Park obsolete.
>:)

(lets face it, that IS the plan right?)
 

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I hope the Elite 4 has higher levels in this game.

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, wasn't the Elite 4's Pokemon only in the Level 40's back in GS? I don't really remember.
 

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Part of me would like Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza, but that'd feel like overkill.

They'll be in there along with Latios and Latias, as Ho-Oh and Lugia and the Beast Trio were in FRLG.

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, wasn't the Elite 4's Pokemon only in the Level 40's back in GS? I don't really remember.

All of the Gym Leader and Elite 4 Pokemon were 5-12 levels lower than in other games.

the RBY or RSE starters to be available (maybe something like the GSC starters in Emerald, you can only get one?)
Mewtwo (an excuse to leave Cerulean Cave open!)
Mew (via Mystery Gift maybe? idk)
Celebi EVENT!
[email protected]

Mew is already obtainable via Pokemon Ranch, and with most players having both one copy of the DPP trio and one copy of the HGSS duo, they can catch 999 Pokemon, deposit them, get the mew, withdraw the Pokemon, delete the save, redownload the game, redeposit them, and basically become a Mew factory.

Mewtwo and [email protected] will probably be available in game. Celebi will be an event, Jirachi may possibly get an event area.
 

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As far as obtainable Pokemon go, I'd like:
the RBY or RSE starters to be available (maybe something like the GSC starters in Emerald, you can only get one?)
Mewtwo (an excuse to leave Cerulean Cave open!)
Mew (via Mystery Gift maybe? idk)
Celebi EVENT!
[email protected]

I'm hoping that Mew and Celebi, at least have a Wi-Fi mystery event option like Darkrai, Arceus, and Shaymin. Mew because Celebi being the only one would be cheap, I mean Diamond/Pearl and Platinum have at least 3. If there was a third one, maybe it could Mewtwo, like a special pass allowing one to enter the Cerulean Cave.
 

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I believe the whole starter-following-you-around is just going to happen at the beggining of the game to add a more dynamic introduction to the game. It'll only be temporary. Remember, game freak does put spotlight on things that end up being pretty trivial and not as important as hyped. *cough**DP gender differences**cough*



What happened if you evolved Pikachu in Yellow? I never really got around to playing it, and I'm curious. :S
 

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Personally, I doubt it will be limited to starters because the concept IS based around Pikachu, so it would be silly to not at least give you the option to do that with Pikachu as well.

I agree and it shouldn't be that hard. Remember amity square back in DPP. I can see most of those Pokemon following around plus more.

I always loved Pikachu following around in Amity square and yellow version one of my most favourite games. Oddly it does look like they're trying to illiminate every possibility for a 3rd version to first gen so I expect they'll illiminate every possibility for a third version (Crystal remake) for 2nd gen with these games aswell. Either way the Pokemon following around actually looking promising to me which is a first considering GS was my least liked games. Nalstagia of yellow version may actually make me love these.XD

Though here's hoping it's not limited and the Pokemon can follow you everywhere.

I would like the Pokemon to have some expressions like in yellow version.

Just need some way to know whether my Pokemon following me is happy without some written text like DPP amity square did which didn't have the same impact.

I really would like this to extend to Pikachu like how amity square had it. There's already a sprite made for Pikachu so it'd be weird if it doesn't spread to there and considering Pikachu was the first to do this in yellow and the over advertising of the Notched ear Pichu and Pikachu coloured Pichu that's happening at the moment. It'd be kind of weird to just chuck Pikachu to the curve.

Anyway if by some tiny chance Pikachu isn't an option I know I probably won't be evolving my beginner at all.

If Pikachu's available to follow I'll evolve my starter.=P

Anyway if Pikachu's not available I'd be in tough decision of having a Chikorita or a Totodile follow me and that's assuming that the starter following can go everywhere.

It's looking promising due to that Chikorita following the character in New bark town.

Tries to keep keep open minded. Tries to keep excitement down.

Good grief I was like "meh" when they revealed the games and now ever since they showed a Chikorita following the character I'm getting excited. Yellow version why Oh why did I love that version so much.=)

Anyway one thing about the following around is something that I wanted in GS in the first place. It dissapointed me when GS didn't continue what yellow did. There are other things that I wanted in GS and didn't get but later games did add and became standard. So I'm sure those other little things will be in GS. I'm talking about personalities, differences between male and female.lol
We got those in the form of natures and gender differences DP and RSE.

Weird these games are looking to actually have the stuff I had always wanted in the orginal but didn't get. Yeah don't even ask why I was a kid who was ahead of my time in thinking of what GS should have been like.

I mean I wanted a touch screen on my gameboy after going to some place that had a few touch screen games with my class back then. Ironically again GS remakes are being made for the DS a touch screen system. If I were a kid I would have fell in love with GS instantly if all this was in the games in the first place but because technology was limited back then it was impossible.

I blame myself for having unrealistic expectations back then. I'm kind of in shock that gamefreak and Nintendo actually went down the path that I was thinking along the lines of. It's actually kind of scary.o_O

However it looks like I'm getting some of the stuff now. However there's a few other things that I was dissapointed with the originals and will be waiting and seeing whether they have those.

So far so good and I guess better late than never I suppose.

Got to keep hype down until I'm confirmed that the Pokemon actually follow you everywhere and are not restricted however it's looking promising.

Shocking gamefreak may have almost won me over but there's always a chance to screw a bit of my excitement like not allowing beginners everywhere. Though that isn't the thing that'd turn me off. The dissapointment in DP only having this n amity square didn't turn me off DP considering I love that gen.

I'll still like the games if they did everything else. I know some of the stuff like the nature and gender differences will definately be in there so it's not all bad if this doesn't turn out the way I like.

Sorry if I seem a little overhyped. I might try to calm down before coming back here because this is exactly what I don't want to be since it most likely will make me dissapointed if I don't calm down.

I believe the whole starter-following-you-around is just going to happen at the beggining of the game to add a more dynamic introduction to the game. It'll only be temporary. Remember, game freak does put spotlight on things that end up being pretty trivial and not as important as hyped. *cough**DP gender differences**cough*



What happened if you evolved Pikachu in Yellow? I never really got around to playing it, and I'm curious. :S

I hope not. I guess I got to still keep my expectations low.

Pikachu got angry with you and refused the stone. That's what happened but keep in mind it was based off the anime when it was done.

I know Amity square in Platinum allowed some evolved Pokemon in especially the beginners of those games had all 3 stages of evolution allowed in.
 
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I believe the whole starter-following-you-around is just going to happen at the beggining of the game to add a more dynamic introduction to the game. It'll only be temporary. Remember, game freak does put spotlight on things that end up being pretty trivial and not as important as hyped. *cough**DP gender differences**cough*



What happened if you evolved Pikachu in Yellow? I never really got around to playing it, and I'm curious. :S

You couldn't evolve it - it refused Thunderstones. You could evolve it if you traded it and traded back, but it wouldn't follow you anymore.

And yeah, I'm even more convinced that it'll just be for the beginning of the game - that's obviously when the video was taken from, before you even leave New Bark for the first time (because Silver is at the window).

And I've got an even better example of hyped new things that went nowhere: the "colder" climate of Platinum. A little snow in a couple of towns and routes - big deal. *eyeroll*



EDIT: I also found a good video of the Pokémon Sunday segment, with the gameplay videos are at 4:21 and 4:57.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq9Xt3FJH80

I love what they've done with New Bark Town's music, by the way - it sounds exactly like I think it should. :) And fo this one at least, I was right about largely flute and other woodwind use.
 

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You couldn't evolve it - it refused Thunderstones. You could evolve it if you traded it and traded back, but it wouldn't follow you anymore.

And yeah, I'm even more convinced that it'll just be for the beginning of the game - that's obviously when the video was taken from, before you even leave New Bark for the first time (because Silver is at the window).

And I've got an even better example of hyped new things that went nowhere: the "colder" climate of Platinum. A little snow in a couple of towns and routes - big deal. *eyeroll*
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You guys are probably right. Hype drops. Anyway let's wait for more information on that part.
 

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And yeah, I'm even more convinced that it'll just be for the beginning of the game - that's obviously when the video was taken from, before you even leave New Bark for the first time (because Silver is at the window).

It doesn't really make sense unless Elm told you let "Starter" Pokemon follow you around and if you try and leave you get yelled at so you have to go back to Elm so he puts it back in the Poke ball.

Because The Pokemon is yours to keep once you choose that Pokemon, there is no ownership test, if you can go all the way to Mr. Pokemon with starter then you should be able to do it everywhere. And if Pikachu could follow you everywhere in Pokemon Yellow, I don't think it's too impossible in these remakes which has tons more space than Pokemon Yellow had at the time.
 

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It doesn't really make sense unless Elm told you let "Starter" Pokemon follow you around and if you try and leave you get yelled at so you have to go back to Elm so he puts it back in the Poke ball.

Because The Pokemon is yours to keep once you choose that Pokemon, there is no ownership test, if you can go all the way to Mr. Pokemon with starter then you should be able to do it everywhere. And if Pikachu could follow you everywhere in Pokemon Yellow, I don't think it's too impossible in these remakes which has tons more space than Pokemon Yellow had at the time.

I speculated a little earlier, though, that they might be changing around the story a little bit so that it makes sense - you have to admit, it's really puzzling in the first two generations that the professors would just randomly give you a rare Pokémon and send you on your way with very few, if any, guidelines. Hell, if Mr. Pokémon hadn't emailed Elm before you left the lab, he would have basically just been "Hi, here's a Pokémon to keep, go wander off somewhere now".

I think they're going to change it so that he loans it to yo/sends it along with you to protect you, because of the Mr. Pokémon email, rather than the email coming after you get the Pokémon. And then, when you get back, he'll see that you've gotten closer to the Pokémon, and will then give you it and its PokéBall.
 

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I believe the whole starter-following-you-around is just going to happen at the beggining of the game to add a more dynamic introduction to the game. It'll only be temporary. Remember, game freak does put spotlight on things that end up being pretty trivial and not as important as hyped. *cough**DP gender differences**cough*

I don't think so. I think they're just taking the Amity Square concept and letting you do it everywhere, although I'm not sure to what extent. Platinum adding in overworld sprites for all 9 forms of the starters would seem to indicate that at least you'd be able to keep your starter out even after evolution.

I'm pretty certain that for the very bare minimum of the feature, Chikorita, Bayleef, Meganium, Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Cyndaquil, Quilava, Typhlosion, and Pikachu will be able to be let out of their balls.

If they included the Amity Square Pokemon, that'd add Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Psyduck, Shroomish, Skitty, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Chimchar, Monferno, Infernape, Piplup, Prinplup, Empoleon, Happinny, Pachirisu, Buneary, and Drifloon. That's 28 Pokemon. If they wanted to add Togepi and Pichu (since they're big Gen II mascots) that'd make 30.

If they did it all the way, they could give us 493.

Presumably this feature would have some minor gameplay applications - keep your Pokemon's happiness up high and they'll fetch rare items.
 

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I think they're going to change it so that he loans it to yo/sends it along with you to protect you, because of the Mr. Pokémon email, rather than the email coming after you get the Pokémon. And then, when you get back, he'll see that you've gotten closer to the Pokémon, and will then give you it and its PokéBall.

Again that would only work if you couldn't see the stats of said starter. Because you basically were loaned your Pokemon in Diamond and Pearl because Rowan didn't give it to you yet. But once you looked at the stats, you were automatically the OT, so it doesn't really make sense.

They could keep the OT as (???) but then I don't think you would be able to battle with the Pokemon (like you can't use Riley/Marley/Cheryl's Pokemon in D/P/P). At most you could probably just heal it but the Pokemon itself would just battle on it's own. Of course they could create a special path you can take to Mr. Pokemon without Grass. But then they'd probably have to move Mr. Pokemon's house in a special enclosed area, which could only be accessed by taking the special route with no grass.
 

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I speculated a little earlier, though, that they might be changing around the story a little bit so that it makes sense - you have to admit, it's really puzzling in the first two generations that the professors would just randomly give you a rare Pokémon and send you on your way with very few, if any, guidelines. Hell, if Mr. Pokémon hadn't emailed Elm before you left the lab, he would have basically just been "Hi, here's a Pokémon to keep, go wander off somewhere now".

I think they're going to change it so that he loans it to yo/sends it along with you to protect you, because of the Mr. Pokémon email, rather than the email coming after you get the Pokémon. And then, when you get back, he'll see that you've gotten closer to the Pokémon, and will then give you it and its PokéBall.

Actually, that's EXACTLY the way it happens in the original GS: Elm receives the e-mail first, so he calls you to do the errand for him and for the puropose he loans you the Pokémon for protection, then lets you keep it because Oak gave you a Pokédex. So, if Mr. Pokémon hadn't emailed Elm, he wouldn't have called Gold/Kris nor given them a Pokémon. So your memory is failing a bit I think.
 
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