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Gold and Silver DS: Discussion, Debate, Wishlists

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d.aisuke

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Ok, I'm working on getting CoroCoro now.
I saw the cover, and I saw the kanji for 6 and the number 6.
It is the June issue right?

I am saying that Red underwent the same level of physical transformation, barring perhaps a few attire details. The only reason no one regarded him as a different character was because of the name.

This female character may well be named either Heart or Soul, but the same principle holds. Red looked much different compared to his past counterpart, whereas Green was highly reminiscent of his old self. I see that as being the same case here, although the fact that we are not dealing with a remake of Crystal does raise a strong possibility that not even the default names will suggest a connection to Kris.

The real point I am trying to make that this by no means proves that Eusine, the expanded Ruins of Alph, altered Dragon's Den, Battle Tower, Pokémon Communication Center and other Crystal-exclusive features will not be carried over to the remakes.

Yeah, I knew this would happen, but I'm still a little disappointed about losing Crystal. Maybe Crys will be added to the plot some how?
 

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Uh yeah its the june one. Do you even know Japanese? XD
 

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the pics look amazing,ive only sen the serribi pics and now im wondering if there are others. hopefully more comes out and someone translates tham
 

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If you go to Pokebeach you can find the full scans.
 

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Oh my... I only came on to check something random to do with Rotom and see that the first details have been revealed.

To be honest, I'm not too thrilled with the female character. What was so bad with Kris. To me, this girl looks nothing like Kris. However, the fact that the non-chosen character plays a role in the story seems to suggest that they are not sticking with a G/S graphical redo and nothing else. GF seems to be treating this as a real remake.

Also, Unown Lord, looks like you totally called the Notch-Ear/Pichu-Coloured Pichus thing.

Love the new Wobbuffet and Larvitar art! And Miltank's is amazing!

I wonder if the following starter thing is optional?
 

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Uh yeah its the june one. Do you even know Japanese? XD

Ok, I'm working on getting CoroCoro now.
I saw the cover, and I saw the kanji for 6 and the number 6.

I said I'd scan them, I didn't mention translating.


I'm pretty stoked about the Pikachu colored/gizamimi Pichu story in the game. That has alot of potential.

Unown Lord, I can't wait to hear more of your theories on the matter.

Did I miss the scan with Unown information, or was that just speculation?

To be honest, I'm not too thrilled with the female character. What was so bad with Kris. To me, this girl looks nothing like Kris. However, the fact that the non-chosen character plays a role in the story seems to suggest that they are not sticking with a G/S graphical redo and nothing else. GF seems to be treating this as a real remake.

And that I'm verry happy about.

Also, Unown Lord, looks like you totally called the Notch-Ear/Pichu-Coloured Pichus thing.

I wonder if the following starter thing is optional?
Never doubt UL, lol

I hope it is, but appears you can at let your starter out whenever you want.
 

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Is no one the least bit excited about time travel elements? Does anyone doubt that Notched-ear Pichu is a character from the past?

Maybe Crys will be added to the plot some how?
That would be akin to admitting that they are distinct characters. By merely keeping the name "Kris" somewhere in the data, Game Freak could let fans know that she is supposed to be regarded as the same character, although a severely refined one.

Could anyone explain to me why this is so different to what happened with Red? I'd appreciate that.

I'm pretty stoked about the Pikachu colored/gizamimi Pichu story in the game. That has alot of potential.
Right about now I am wondering if Gold and the Pikachu-colored Pichu have gone back in time, or rather, the Notched-ear Pichu traveled to the present. The sequence is incredibly reminiscent of the GS Ball event in Crystal, where by placing the GS Ball inside the shrine Celebi emerged from the sky, obviously having traveled in time.

It would appear that the Pikachu-colored Pichu is summoning Notched-ear Pichu in a similar manner, but the fact remains that Notched-ear Pichu shouldn't have time-traveling abilities. I believe that Celebi is governing over the shrine (which is referenced in the original games) and is manipulating the characters as it sees fit. This may just be one of several events where it is responsible for someone undergoing time travel, and I can only hope that the player character will, too, make it to the past at some point.

Notched-ear Pichu is a character from the ancient past, as evidenced by Movie 12. It should have unique properties not found in the Pichu of this day and age, which I believe will be reflected in its base stats.
 
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This girl has brown hair, she looks nothing like Marina/Kris or whatever.

Even her clothes are totally different.

So if I'm used to wear black and one day I go aout with a green T-shirt will that be enough for me not being recognizable?? Oh come on!!! Her face is very similar to the original. I loved both redesings.
And just in case it isn't her, what would be different still? It's just an avatar. That won't change the gameplay nor even the story.
Now I have an urge to see how will Silver look.
BTW, it's curious, when I tried to make an updated version of Gold, it looked somewhat similar to this one, even the Pose XD
 

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well with the time traveling idea already rolling around i thought i might join in.
in the new movie its going to feature things that happened in the past. thats the whole story with arceus. im thinking maybe celibi has a new form to really travel through time. this would help things go along in the movie(bulbapedia already has the basic plot check it out). then as someone said nep could be an early version of the pichu we no today and pcp im thinking could be its future self,noting it was special because of the notch ear. they could realease a mystery gift for the ilex shrine. this would have NeP(u get it with a preorder ticket,something we cant do here)meet up with PcP at the shrine. the meeting of past and present could open the shrine, allowing you to

A.catch a regular celibi
B.catch a new form clibi
C.new world to catch the celeibi in(like a time travel)(sort of like reverse world)
D.an item to change celibi's forms(like the greious orb or gracedia flower)and you would get the celibi either in the actuall story play or as another mystery gift.

These are my thoughts anyway.
 

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I actually called gold for having a new zipper hoodie so can I say
I CALLED IT?!
 

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Could anyone explain to me why this is so different to what happened with Red? I'd appreciate that.

I'd hate to argue this because I doubt GameFreak gives a crap. But I think they wanted it to be different than Ash. Besides Red didn't change that much, considering in the original games you barely see his face anyway.

Kris and new girl look absolutely nothing like each other. Even a green/black or whatever hair colored Kris looks nothing like this new girl. Red on the other hand still looks like the same generic character. The only way you can say Red changed drastically is if you use the very original art of red from Generation 1. However Kris was unique enough in appearance (unlike Red who was as generic as generic can be) that it didn't warrant an absolutely new character design.

I'm not saying this new girl is hideously horrible, burn her at the stakes. But she's not Kris at all. Again as if GameFreak cares, they introduced Kris in the anime as Marina. There's no way you could argue Marina somehow changes appearances.

A.catch a regular celibi
B.catch a new form clibi
C.new world to catch the celeibi in(like a time travel)(sort of like reverse world)
D.an item to change celibi's forms(like the greious orb or gracedia flower)and you would get the celibi either in the actuall story play or as another mystery gift.

These are my thoughts anyway.

Not trying to mock you but how many variations of the word Celebi do you have? I mean misspelling it fine. But not keeping it the same misspelled word throughout your post is hilarious. I'm sorry if I offended you.
 

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Now I want them to release Mind Crystal!

Just BECAUSE I want to see Crys again.

Screw the rules! That IS a reason to release a game!
 

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Could anyone explain to me why this is so different to what happened with Red? I'd appreciate that.

Well, red didnt really change - all the basic design elements from RB were kept in the transition to FrLg:

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Both wear red caps and jackets, wear jeans....it's clear just by looking at them that FrLg Red is merely a mordernised RBY Red.

But compare Kris and the HGSS girl:

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corocoro-1.jpg


There isn't really anything that allows you to draw comparisons between the two. Prior to today, If I asked you if you thought the new girl was a HGSS heroine or a Gen V heroine, you would almost certainly go for the latter option.
 

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Note: In the Ilex Forest with the Pichus... there are no headbutt trees where there used to be headbutt trees. Ponder and discuss!

Actually, the more I see NewGirl, the more I like her. She's quirky, like the Johto region itself is IMO. I actually think she's kind of cool. Definately not Kris, but cool in her own right.

Can anyone tell me what the screenshot below Wobbuffet is supposed to be of?


OMG old Red had hi-tops! LOVE IT!
 
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She just has a bigger hat.

Can we move on to more important things? Like the tame travel thing in the Ilex Shrine. I think the shrine could be a portal to a sidequest in another time-dimension place (ala Distortion World) where you will be able to finally fight and catch Celebi.
 

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Note: In the Ilex Forest with the Pichus... there are no headbutt trees where there used to be headbutt trees. Ponder and discuss!

Actually, the more I see NewGirl, the more I like her. She's quirky, like the Johto region itself is IMO. I actually think she's kind of cool. Definately not Kris, but cool in her own right.

Can anyone tell me what the screenshot below Wobbuffet is supposed to be of?

Was worried about the exclusion of headbutt trees, looks like my fears have been confirmed :( Such a pity, especially since this no doubt means that Honey trees will return....

The screenshot below Wobuffet is the Slowpoke Well I believe.

Also, why does everyone assume the building above Gold's stock art is Kurt's house? To me, it looks like the Burnt tower...
 

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She just has a bigger hat.

I think your blind because I can see 9 differences straight off the bat.

1. Hat is different
2. Hairstyle is different
3. Hair Color is different
4. Her head is a different shape / or you could say she has different eyes or mouth
5. Kris is at least wearing a "jacket" a shirt, and short shorts. New Girl is at least wearing a shirt and overalls.
6. New girl looks taller, and no I'm not saying that because it technically is, new girl has proportionately longer legs then Kris.
7. New girl also has a smaller/different waist line.
8. New girl has leg bands
9. And different shoes.

Also, why does everyone assume the building above Gold's stock art is Kurt's house? To me, it looks like the Burnt tower...

I thought it was confused for the Slowpoke well (if it was Kurt's house, damn), as you get to the top of the well from the stairs to the plateaued hole and down the ladder.
 

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No Red Gyarados confirmation yet. It was hyped a lot back then. I'm worried it could go the way of Headbutt and Marina and non-following starters... now THAT I would be annoyed about.
 

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Maxim, seriously, shut the hell up.

You're acting like a whiny little five year old who lost his doll, which is lying about two feet away from you.

She has a different look, big fucking whoop. Is it a good thing, not really, but it's nothing worth acting like the series is ruined forever because of it.

Seriously, shut up already. God. >_>



Anyway, I find it interesting that Notchy actually has a role in this game, somewhat. Not that I didn't think it was possible, but it's nice to see that it has a role to some extent.
 

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I can see the the resemblance between new girl and Crystal, mainly in the hair, even if it isn't blue. Methinks that, since Crystal (the girl) was exclusive to Crystal (the game), they wanted to create a new girl that's just for Gold/Silver.

Hopefully however this doesn't mean that Crystal's exclusive features will be left out.
 
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