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Gold and Silver DS: Discussion, Debate, Wishlists

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Zodiac The Vampire said:
I want my Red Gyarados!
The Red Gyarados will be in the games. There are too many references to it in DPPt for that not to be the case, and the young players must be eagerly awaiting it.

Game Freak could easily come up with a fantastic new side plot, keeping the core plot and features of G/S but replacing the Crystal additions with something else.
Indeed, Eusine could very well be included without having Suicune be encountered in the Tin Tower after the Radio Tower incident. His insight into Ecruteak's folklore should be of greater importance than it was in Crystal, where he simply encouraged the player to catch Suicune, Entei and Raikou so that Ho-oh returns to Johto.

Suicune itself could still be more prominent than Entei and Raikou, much like Mesprit was. It could be encountered in the Ruins of Alph this time around as part of a new plot, or rather, one alluded to by Crystal's introduction sequence.

Veggietable said:
Will they stick to the original Blue or will they retcon it to the Japanese Green in order to keep consistance with the newer LeafGreen (and, if it's the latter, how will Bulbapedia's article will be titled?)?
It should be the latter, given that "Blue" doesn't even appear as one of the default names in either FireRed or LeafGreen.
 

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Look at Serebii.net...

We just got a leak of CoroCoro.

And it's now confirmed that the game will utilize a new female character.

It seems like they consider Crystal girl as a Crystal-only feature and they actually wanted a new one...

This SUCKS!

I WANTED CRYS!

Now we can be sure that the game will not utilise ANY of Crystal elements.

God, I'm starting to hate HGSS.

Just because it isn't Kris doesn't mean no Crystal elements will be used. Calm down.
 

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First off im really glad theyre remaking these, johto is my favorite region!
a few features i think that should be added are
- Wi-Fi version of the underground
- Pokemon Sprite revamps (theyll probably do this anyway)
- A place like pal park where you can have your pokemon follow you
- Ability to trade with diamond/pearl/platinum
- Revamp of Kanto
- For the DS
- GTS somewhere
but i think they should keep it quite similar to the original by keeping the gym leaders pokemon and pokemon found in certain areas the same ^_^ they should also add new challenges ect to keep it fresh :D
 

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Ok, we have only seen a few screens/images. We don't know how the game si going to be. Its like watching a clip of a movie for 10 seconds and saying "Its horrible" but sitting down and actually watching the movie might get a different conclusion right?

Same here with this game. We get a few screens that don't actually show an awful lot in terms of the game play and so on, and suddenly we start complaining. Now is this really fair when we don't know that much about the game or have even got round to playing it to judge for ourselves? It will be a long while before we get to do that.

We see a screen of Elms lab and 3 cylinder like objects beside it and we automatically think underground vents. We see a chickorita being the player and we think that this will be done for every pokemon but we don't know any of this is actually the case yet do we?

Kris is probably not in these remakes because this is NOT crystal remake but Gold/Silver. Gold and Silver are in these for that obvious reason. Like how Blue was not in FR/LG remakes, or was he? Leaf was added in FR/LG too, was there a problem with that?

The reamkes have happened now, so quit complaining on little things you don't know much about.

There is only a few things at moment I am waiting to know:

1) Will or won't be an underground?
2) Will there be a pal park?
3) Will a similar storyline to original be used or is there a new one?
4) Will Kanto be there?
5) How the pokegear will look and function on DS
 
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I think your blind because I can see 9 differences straight off the bat.

1. Hat is different
2. Hairstyle is different
3. Hair Color is different
4. Her head is a different shape / or you could say she has different eyes or mouth
5. Kris is at least wearing a "jacket" a shirt, and short shorts. New Girl is at least wearing a shirt and overalls.
6. New girl looks taller, and no I'm not saying that because it technically is, new girl has proportionately longer legs then Kris.
7. New girl also has a smaller/different waist line.
8. New girl has leg bands
9. And different shoes.

yeah, but none of that matters.
We have remakes, quit complaining about the smallest difference.
There's the same amount of difference between her and Kris as there is between new and old Red.
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yeah, but none of that matters.
We have remakes, quit complaining about the smallest difference.
There's the same amount of difference between her and Kris as there is between new and old Red.
._.

I already said I don't give a crap about NG, I'm just saying she's not Kris. So saying Kris won't be in the game because NG is Kris is flawed.

I'm not complaining about NG being in the game (like Maxim is) I'm just saying it's not Kris.
 

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dman_dustin haha i guess your right. i was sorta trying to see wich celibi loooked right to me. again i spelled it in a different way lol . im actually ok with the new girl also. it doesnt bother me that much. and now that i saw the new girl in a big full scan, my pervert side is coming out.
first off the line running down her shorts goes right in the middle of where her "lips"would be. and around that is a sort of semi-circle that could be her "mound" im just go ahead and say it...i can see her VAGINA!!!
 

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i can see the same in that little pic of kris...they actually have the same shorts in different colors
 

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I'm not complaining about NG being in the game (like Maxim is) I'm just saying it's not Kris.
She just happens to live in the same house and coincidentally goes through an eeringly similar adventure.

Granted, as a non-playable character, her backstory should be different. But it isn't a canon fact that Gold is the main character.
 
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She just happens to live in the same house and coincidentally goes through an eeringly similar adventure.

Granted, as a non-playable character, her backstory should be different. But it shouldn't be a canon fact that Gold is the main character.
I'd laugh if there was a third house, where another character lives (Kris). I don't know about that same house because technically you could argue that if Kris didn't exist NG would live in the same house as she was. And this is only assuming Gold/NG as NPC's actually live in the same town as you.

Remember Lucas/Dawn as NPC's lived in Sandgem town while playable character lived in Twinleaf Town as your rival (Pearl). It could be apples and oranges but Silver is supposed to be your rival not NPC Gold/NG. And it's not like originally they even had that option, since Gold was the only one to exist. And even with Kris as playable character Gold was nowhere to be found. It wasn't until 3rd gen that they fixed that problem (excluding FR/LG). The fact that they are adding this to HGSS makes Gold/Kris completely different to Gold/NG since technically this is unprecedented (by that I mean involving 2nd gen and adding newer gen "plots").
 

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I don't know about that same house because technically you could argue that if Kris didn't exist NG would live in the same house as she was. And this is only assuming Gold/NG as NPC's actually live in the same town as you.
It doesn't matter where the opposite-gender character lives, since there will be an option to play as the female character and have her experience a similar storyline to Crystal's. Unless it is established in canon that the female character isn't supposed to start out in New Bark Town and become Silver's rival, there will be a very strong case in favor of the view that she is the modern-day Kris.
 

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I already said I don't give a crap about NG, I'm just saying she's not Kris. So saying Kris won't be in the game because NG is Kris is flawed.

I'm not complaining about NG being in the game (like Maxim is) I'm just saying it's not Kris.

Sorry, it's just a lot of people have wanted this for a long time, and it seemed like a lot of people weren't even giving it a chance before judging it. You know you're sad when you jump to defend the name of a video game, eh? :)
 

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Hey Daisuke, when you get the CoroCoro, can you scan (preferably zoomed in) the top left of the page with the new girl? It looks like it's showing a dual-screen shot of the overworld with the PokéGear interface underneath, but it's cut off/too small in PokéBeach's scans. It's one of the things I've been most curious about, and it's taunting me. D:

I've also been skimming the Japanese text, and I'm not finding too much we didn't already know, though I haven't gotten to the last two pages yet.
 

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I think by the time D.aisuke will have the proper scans for us people would already have them up or even better the site would be up. But if he wants to go ahead!
 

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Dammit, we need higher-resolution scans in general. These are better than most, but the kanji are too fuzzy (and the helper kana next to them too small) to read most of them. I caught a mention of Sinnoh in the caption to the screenshot of (probably) Sprout Tower, but I can't tell what context it's in. I'll try to transcript/translate what I can, but it may be a futile process with these scans.
 

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Yeah futile indeed. I cannot wait this long. Thank god school is over till exams.
 

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So Kris is being replaced, I guess there goes all the chances of her anime counter part appearing during the GF
 

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So Kris is being replaced, I guess there goes all the chances of her anime counter part appearing during the GF

Why? It's not like they did anything with Leaf. We already know Marina is Top Coordinator, so there's reason why she couldn't appear.
 

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*more grumbling about how there's only one set of scans*

Almost have the text above Ho-oh done, save one kanji. It seems to be emphasizing how there's not just Lugia, but also Ho-oh - it's an interesting way to phrase it, butI guess it makes sense given Lugia's higher visibility because of the movie. No real new information there, anyway.
 
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