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Junichi Masuda reveals information on N: Game Freak director gains attention of fans

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I found the original blog entry; I actually really hope someone translates the rest of it. My Japanese is limited but I'm pretty sure Masuda talks about the math behind N's battle themes, which is really fascinating to me.
 

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It's RUMORED that his parents were Pokemon. o_o; It is a disturbing thought though.
Like Silktree said, @blusun translation was that he believed he was, which is far more in line with his other beliefs if that's the more accurate one. I think the article should be updated so as to not spread untrue facts.

So yeah, that's why I'm more or less uninterested about his parents, because N's belief of what they are may also just be another one of the many lies Ghetsis fed to him.
"With his high IQ, N exceeds humans."

So he's not human?
Context of the second half being linked to the first suggests his high IQ merely exceeds that of the average human, it suggests nothing about him being nonhuman.

There are many examples of humans with super powers in this franchise, from individuals being able to read a Pokemon's potential, to their hidden power, and even all the way up to full blown Aura and Psychic powers, yet intelligence suddenly makes N nonhuman?

Really, N being not human makes Ghetsis ten times less douchey given his line at the end: "Mwa ha ha! Since I couldn't become the hero and obtain the legendary Pokémon myself... I prepared someone for that purpose--N! He's nothing more than a freak without a human heart. Do you think you're going to get through to a warped person like that?!"

All of Ghetsis' comments point to N being an actual human he manipulated, and made believe that he came from Pokemon.

There's nothing that provides concrete evidence otherwise.
 
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RedSapphire said:
I knew N was a Zoroark. It would explain the slight color changes between him and Ghetsis (since Ghetsis is "behind" Team Plasma and Zoroark copies whatever's at the back of the team).

Whoa now, that actually makes sense there. oAo

On a more important note, however: his last name is Gropius.

The fangirl inside me...doesn't know whether to be excited, or to shrivel up and die.

Your current icon expresses this thought perfectly. xD

Actually, the proper translation is that N believes that he was born from Pokémon, since his parents are unknown. So when you come to think of it, this probably doesn't mean anything about his real parents.

Ohh. So Ghetis and N aren't related by blood after all? Unless Big G is his evil uncle or something...but wow, okay, I see then. D:
 

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Ohh. So Ghetis and N aren't related by blood after all? Unless Big G is his evil uncle or something...but wow, okay, I see then. D:
Ghetsis may or may not be N's dad, but it would seem that N simply doesn't know who his parents are.
 

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Context of the second half being linked to the first suggests his high IQ merely exceeds that of the average human, it suggests nothing about him being nonhuman.

I considered that it could have been a mistranslation. I'm only speculating, of course. Although it would be cool.
 

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Interesting. Is the the first time any developer or major figure has released notes to a certain character? I find it odd that Masuda has taken time to do something like this, but that probably has to do with the fact that many developers and figureheads just pump out games for the money. Of course, Masuda has a whole different outlook on this and I'm glad he has released (character development??) information on N.

Perhaps this will be implemented and shown later on in the years? But of course, that's pure speculation.
 

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I wonder what are the full names of Red, Leaf, Green, Ethan, Kris, Lyra, Silver, Brendan, May, Wally, Lucas, Dawn, Pearl, Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren and Bianca are...
 

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Uuuh wow, I think I'll just... keep on calling him "N".
 

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I wonder what are the full names of Red, Leaf, Green, Ethan, Kris, Lyra, Silver, Brendan, May, Wally, Lucas, Dawn, Pearl, Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren and Bianca are...
Good question. Why does the newest fangirlservice get a full name and not anyone else?
 

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So on the line that N believes himself to be perfection, I made a comment on another thread on how Ghetsis views himself as perfection

"What?! I created Team Plasma with my own hands. I'm absolutely perfect! I AM PERFECTION! I am the perfect ruler of a perfect new world!"
It is possible Ghetsis passed on his sentiments of perfection to N as well. Combine N's distance from humans, closeness with Pokemon, the suffering he witnessed, and the belief he is perfection. Ghetsis just created a person impervious to seeing the truth.

This is why I think N's dragon is the dragon of truth, Reshiram shows itself to N because N wishes to discover the truth deep down, but his vision has been occluded. Zekrom sides with the protagonist because the truth is not an absolute in either direction (that ALL Pokemon are better with people) but would fight for the ideal that humans and Pokemon could get along--something that can only be accomplished if they are not separated.
 
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I can truly believe the theory that N is a Pokemon transformed into a human, seeing as Bill had this technology all the way back in Generation 1.

Also: Gropius sounds like Tropius. Coincidence, or something a but more in-depth?
 

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This is why I think N's dragon is the dragon of truth, Reshiram shows itself to N because N wishes to discover the truth deep down, but his vision has been occluded. Zekrom sides with the protagonist because the truth is not an absolute in either direction (that ALL Pokemon are better with people) but would fight for the ideal that humans and Pokemon could get along--something that can only be accomplished if they are not separated.

You are aware that Zekrom shows itself to N in the opposite version, right? You can't say that the version you speak of is canon.
 

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You are aware that Zekrom shows itself to N in the opposite version, right? You can't say that the version you speak of is canon.
And you are aware that given the disparities between versions in Pokemon, and the third version trying to reconcile the differences between the first two as much as possible, that I am doing the same thing for my personal fanon until such a third version arrives? Fans have always been trying to reconcile differences and similarities between different versions (and different games and even between games that override the previous canon) as well into their own fanon, that's what I am doing here.

I don't seem to see where I said the version I was talking about was canon. Right there in that quote, I said "This is why I think N's dragon is..." not "This is why N's dragon is..."

Last I checked, the game I played was the one where N was chosen by Zekrom. Kind of strange to accuse me to speak of the other game as canon when the only one I played has N using the dragon of ideals, or to assume I am taking a "single version" approach when you have no idea of how I personally reconcile these two versions in my mind.

The alternate interpretation is that N's ideals were pure (even though they were manipulated) thus was chosen by Zekrom, and Reshiram battled against Zekrom to show N the truth. I personally enjoy the idea that neither dragon were truly trying to beat each other, but that Reshiram knew that through its loss, the truth would be revealed to N, while preserving the status quo to allow for the ideal of living in harmony with Pokemon to exist.
 
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... Am I the only one that thought of Sho Minamimoto with the high IQ, math wizard, and quick-witted parts?
 

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That last name just...it keeps making me laugh.

Interesting stuff, though.
 

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Here, I thought they were going to hold all this stuff for the third game. You know, that it'd be a surprise and a big way to give "Natural" even more character depth.

Well, now that it's been said, it has to happen anyway.

And that test tube baby theory is really sounding more plausible now...
 

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As I said in the thread on the video games board, I remember reading somewhere that the third version would give more of N's backstory.

I also don't know how well Masuda's statement is translated, so I'm holding off until the third version is officially released to analyze the character further. (although, thinking outside the box, there's the potential for more mind-blowing characterization)
 

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Other ideas I had on the born-of-pokemon bit:

--N is a *reincarnation* of a pokemon. I even have an idea of the original Kyurem splitting its psyche into FIVE pieces, one for each of the Chinese elements.

Fire (pure yang): Reshiram
Water (pure yin): Zekrom
Earth (yin/yang equilibrium): "skeleton" Kyurem
Wood (yang dominant over yin): N (his original fanaticism is pretty yang...)
Metal (yin dominant over yang): The player-character? ^^;

--N is a human/pokemon chimera

Note that in this scenario, N was conceived as a human, but Ghetsis imbued a pokemon's DNA (Meloetta's?) into the zygote/embryo.
 

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A chimera, like the Ultimate Chimera in Mother 3 (which Black and White borrow heavily from)?! If that theory is the case, then you can see how much they referenced that game.
 
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