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Keep/Change/Delete

keep. the consequences of using a move that can give a pretty big benefit like clangorous soul (1/3 of your help) seem reasonable. i couldn't really fairly say any more HP should be sacrificed given it's not exactly as drastic of a boost as say, belly drum which uses half of the user's own HP.

confuse ray
 
Keep it, it's a good utility even if it doesn't get used much. Though I'd be interested to see what would happen to its use stats if it started to be able to prevent Pokemon from dropping their own stats. Not necessary, but interesting to think about.

Gear Grind
 
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