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Okay, found another 4chan leak that seems pretty cool yet most likely fake, split into six different parts:

After weeks and weeks of trying contacting an old high school friend of mine who has a relative that works for GF, I finally managed to get some huge info for the gen IX games.
Notice, that I am only going to show only a handful of info as I am forbidden to show the rest of the game.
  • The region is called Sanimo which is the first region since Sinnoh to have more than five letters.
  • Your rivals are Daria, Carlos, and one of the protagonists that you didn't choose. Daria is basically a feminine version of Hau/Hop, Carlos acts like a stereotypical Shonen rival, and finally an interesting note about the unchosen protagonist is that he/she is your twin sibling.
  • Lucia is the region's champion and she also happens to be your older sister.
  • Professor Carob is the professor of the game and is also the older brother of Daria.
  • Unlike in the previous games, you'll get to choose your starter Pokemon right before you began the game. Your twin sibling will get the one with the type advantage while Daria will get the one with the type disadvantage.
  • The games involves you joining some sort of organization that is similar to that of a military camp/school and with some slight inspiration to the Galactic Survey Corp from Pokemon Legends Arceus as they both also involves around exploration. The goal is built up an army and fight against gym leaders who all have their own armies as well and if you defeat eight of them, you get to battle at the Grand Colosseum (AKA the Pokemon League).
  • Depending on each version, the organization you are in will be named by the version you are playing. Both Daria and Carlos are part of your organization while your twin sibling is in the opposite organization from the different version. Professor Carob will be the teacher of your organization.
  • To built up an army, you can battle and defeat certain NPC trainers, and completing sidequests for NPCs; there might be other ways, but that's all I know so far.

To be continued

More info
  • While still on the topic of armies, the games will feature a new mode of battle called Mass Armed Battle where six of your troops join forces with you to defeat the opossing team. Only leaders can use six Pokemon while the troops can only use three Pokemon. The troops can only face the ones in front of them in battle and never against the leader (unless all of their reminding troops are defeated), but one advantage they all have is that they can switch positions much like with triple battles. The battle ends if one of the leader is defeated.
  • You will also have a base where you meet up with your troops, interact with all of your Pokemon, link players on the internet, and even upgrade your base after beating each gym leaders.
  • As for the gym leaders, they are all version exculxes. For example, the first gym leader in Scarlet named Gindoc uses grass while in Violet, the gym leader named Arcana uses bug types instead. One thing to note is that you don't just battle them right away. Instead, you must complete their request before you can battle them such as searching around a forest for specific items. Gym battles will take place in arenas known as Gym Colosseums.
  • Another new mechanic is something related to the blue stars from the Japanese logo. The mechanic here will feature the these stars that turns them into elemental weapons known as Star Equip which acts very similar to Z-Moves back in gen VII, but with mix of Mega Evolution thrown in as well. These weapons gives your Pokemon a third type to go along with the use of their powers; these include a fire sword (fire-type), grass arrow (grass-type), and a bubble rod (water-type). You'll get these from gym leaders you fought, but there's also those you can only get by searching or completeing certain requests. The person who is researching them is named Professor Olive who is also a colleague of Carob and long time friend of Lucia.

To be continued

More info
  • In battle, your Pokemon uses Star Equip for about three times until it eventually runs out. Additionally, there's also Star Equips (known as Star Forms) that can only be used for certain Pokemon such as the Starter Pokemon's final evolutions and even change their appearances as well. Examples include Beedrill having saber-like stingers for arms and a more sharper pair of wings (bug/poison/steel), Lucario with armored fists and a suit that has glowing spots (fighting/steel/psychic), and Treevent holding a wooden rod and wearing a robe that makes it look like a wizard (grass/ghost/dark).
  • The games will feature two villain groups (both are inclusive to both versions). One is Team Crash which are a group of former members of various camp/school organizations that all wanted to rebel against them for what they believe to be unfair towards them and they all seems to hate Pokemon Trainers; they're yet another Skull/Yell group. The second villains are the more major ones; they are a group of upper-class students from an elite school called Occultus Eques Academia; they are said to be mixture of knights and magicians (hence the school name) and the school itself to have a fantasy feel to it. The students are hostile towards what they described as a bunch of "interior commoners" ruining a perfect society and plans to turn Sanimo into a plutocracy where they can rule over the lower-class using Star Equips as their power. Although the Occultus Eques will play a huge importance to the story, you'll fight Team Crash more often than them.
  • Another character who is very important to the story is a mysterious young girl who wears a carnival mask over her face. She is known as either Roja (Scarlet) or Morada (Violet) depending on each version. You'll battle her several times during your journey.

To be continued

Last info
  • The final evolutions for the starters will have second types that are advantageable against each other, much like with gen VI starters. Sprigatito will have fairy type, Fuecoco will have steel type, and Quaxly will have fighting type.
  • Sprigatito's final evolution resembles that of a masquerade performer that also looks like a knight with a little bit of a princess feel to it.
  • Fuecoco's final evolution is that of a large theropod dinosaur such as a carnotaurus with dark reddish markings that looks like parts of armor and row of molten iron spikes on it's back.
  • Quaxly's final evolution looks like a sailor with wavy patterns on it's "hat" and large feathers on it's arms that looks like sleeves.
  • Some of the new Pokemon includes a Yak Pokemon that looks like a large hedge (grass/ground), a puffin Pokemon that evolves into a skua (ice/flying), a chupacabra-based Pokemon (fire/dark), a grey wolf Pokemon (ice/dark), a luna moth Pokemon with crescent moon patterns on it's wing (bug/fairy), a gerbil Pokemon (normal/grass), a Sleeping Beauty-inspired Pokemon (fairy/psychic), a living tombstone (ghost/rock), and a Tarasque-based Pokemon (dragon/rock).
  • Regional forms have return. Examples are Hawluncha with a flamenco look (fire/fighting), Mr Mime that looks like a jester and evolves into a Harlequin performer (psychic/dark), Tauros that looks like a chianina bull and evolves into a minotaur (steel), and Patrat that looks like a psychic user in a cloak and also has a new third evolution (normal/psychic).
  • The legendary mascots are a large bird (Scarlet) and a mystic horse (Violet) while the third one appears to be a dragon; their types are currently a secret for now.

That's all the info you're getting; see you and good night.

In a final note, the game's story will be far more bigger than the more current ones. Whatever it is probably sounds like something from Black and White. Speaking of which, there's also going to be over 120 new Pokemon in the game. It's not as big as 150 like gen V, but still far bigger than the modern titles.
- - -
One last thing I forgot to say is that there's two new Eeveelutions. One is a ghost type and the other is a dragon type.

Another thing is that the Grand Colosseum will be familiar to the Pokemon league from Sword and Shield. That being said, there's no Elite Four in this game.

And that's everything else so far. Good night!
Gotta say... the whole army concept sounds terrible.

In addition to that- ha ha ha, the legendaries' types are the least secret thing at the moment and pretty much the only concrete thing Khu's leaked for these games so far.

And Beedrill isn't in the leaked corner of the pokedex so I don't think a new gimmick form for that one's likely.
 

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I would play that leak game.

Too bad there's no way in hell its a pokemon game. It sounds fascinating.
 

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Like I said, it's a great idea for a game, but a horrible idea for a pokemon game unless it's a spin off ala conquest
 

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Okay, found another 4chan leak that seems pretty cool yet most likely fake, split into six different parts:

After weeks and weeks of trying contacting an old high school friend of mine who has a relative that works for GF, I finally managed to get some huge info for the gen IX games.
Notice, that I am only going to show only a handful of info as I am forbidden to show the rest of the game.
  • The region is called Sanimo which is the first region since Sinnoh to have more than five letters.
  • Your rivals are Daria, Carlos, and one of the protagonists that you didn't choose. Daria is basically a feminine version of Hau/Hop, Carlos acts like a stereotypical Shonen rival, and finally an interesting note about the unchosen protagonist is that he/she is your twin sibling.
  • Lucia is the region's champion and she also happens to be your older sister.
  • Professor Carob is the professor of the game and is also the older brother of Daria.
  • Unlike in the previous games, you'll get to choose your starter Pokemon right before you began the game. Your twin sibling will get the one with the type advantage while Daria will get the one with the type disadvantage.
  • The games involves you joining some sort of organization that is similar to that of a military camp/school and with some slight inspiration to the Galactic Survey Corp from Pokemon Legends Arceus as they both also involves around exploration. The goal is built up an army and fight against gym leaders who all have their own armies as well and if you defeat eight of them, you get to battle at the Grand Colosseum (AKA the Pokemon League).
  • Depending on each version, the organization you are in will be named by the version you are playing. Both Daria and Carlos are part of your organization while your twin sibling is in the opposite organization from the different version. Professor Carob will be the teacher of your organization.
  • To built up an army, you can battle and defeat certain NPC trainers, and completing sidequests for NPCs; there might be other ways, but that's all I know so far.

To be continued

More info
  • While still on the topic of armies, the games will feature a new mode of battle called Mass Armed Battle where six of your troops join forces with you to defeat the opossing team. Only leaders can use six Pokemon while the troops can only use three Pokemon. The troops can only face the ones in front of them in battle and never against the leader (unless all of their reminding troops are defeated), but one advantage they all have is that they can switch positions much like with triple battles. The battle ends if one of the leader is defeated.
  • You will also have a base where you meet up with your troops, interact with all of your Pokemon, link players on the internet, and even upgrade your base after beating each gym leaders.
  • As for the gym leaders, they are all version exculxes. For example, the first gym leader in Scarlet named Gindoc uses grass while in Violet, the gym leader named Arcana uses bug types instead. One thing to note is that you don't just battle them right away. Instead, you must complete their request before you can battle them such as searching around a forest for specific items. Gym battles will take place in arenas known as Gym Colosseums.
  • Another new mechanic is something related to the blue stars from the Japanese logo. The mechanic here will feature the these stars that turns them into elemental weapons known as Star Equip which acts very similar to Z-Moves back in gen VII, but with mix of Mega Evolution thrown in as well. These weapons gives your Pokemon a third type to go along with the use of their powers; these include a fire sword (fire-type), grass arrow (grass-type), and a bubble rod (water-type). You'll get these from gym leaders you fought, but there's also those you can only get by searching or completeing certain requests. The person who is researching them is named Professor Olive who is also a colleague of Carob and long time friend of Lucia.

To be continued

More info
  • In battle, your Pokemon uses Star Equip for about three times until it eventually runs out. Additionally, there's also Star Equips (known as Star Forms) that can only be used for certain Pokemon such as the Starter Pokemon's final evolutions and even change their appearances as well. Examples include Beedrill having saber-like stingers for arms and a more sharper pair of wings (bug/poison/steel), Lucario with armored fists and a suit that has glowing spots (fighting/steel/psychic), and Treevent holding a wooden rod and wearing a robe that makes it look like a wizard (grass/ghost/dark).
  • The games will feature two villain groups (both are inclusive to both versions). One is Team Crash which are a group of former members of various camp/school organizations that all wanted to rebel against them for what they believe to be unfair towards them and they all seems to hate Pokemon Trainers; they're yet another Skull/Yell group. The second villains are the more major ones; they are a group of upper-class students from an elite school called Occultus Eques Academia; they are said to be mixture of knights and magicians (hence the school name) and the school itself to have a fantasy feel to it. The students are hostile towards what they described as a bunch of "interior commoners" ruining a perfect society and plans to turn Sanimo into a plutocracy where they can rule over the lower-class using Star Equips as their power. Although the Occultus Eques will play a huge importance to the story, you'll fight Team Crash more often than them.
  • Another character who is very important to the story is a mysterious young girl who wears a carnival mask over her face. She is known as either Roja (Scarlet) or Morada (Violet) depending on each version. You'll battle her several times during your journey.

To be continued

Last info
  • The final evolutions for the starters will have second types that are advantageable against each other, much like with gen VI starters. Sprigatito will have fairy type, Fuecoco will have steel type, and Quaxly will have fighting type.
  • Sprigatito's final evolution resembles that of a masquerade performer that also looks like a knight with a little bit of a princess feel to it.
  • Fuecoco's final evolution is that of a large theropod dinosaur such as a carnotaurus with dark reddish markings that looks like parts of armor and row of molten iron spikes on it's back.
  • Quaxly's final evolution looks like a sailor with wavy patterns on it's "hat" and large feathers on it's arms that looks like sleeves.
  • Some of the new Pokemon includes a Yak Pokemon that looks like a large hedge (grass/ground), a puffin Pokemon that evolves into a skua (ice/flying), a chupacabra-based Pokemon (fire/dark), a grey wolf Pokemon (ice/dark), a luna moth Pokemon with crescent moon patterns on it's wing (bug/fairy), a gerbil Pokemon (normal/grass), a Sleeping Beauty-inspired Pokemon (fairy/psychic), a living tombstone (ghost/rock), and a Tarasque-based Pokemon (dragon/rock).
  • Regional forms have return. Examples are Hawluncha with a flamenco look (fire/fighting), Mr Mime that looks like a jester and evolves into a Harlequin performer (psychic/dark), Tauros that looks like a chianina bull and evolves into a minotaur (steel), and Patrat that looks like a psychic user in a cloak and also has a new third evolution (normal/psychic).
  • The legendary mascots are a large bird (Scarlet) and a mystic horse (Violet) while the third one appears to be a dragon; their types are currently a secret for now.

That's all the info you're getting; see you and good night.

In a final note, the game's story will be far more bigger than the more current ones. Whatever it is probably sounds like something from Black and White. Speaking of which, there's also going to be over 120 new Pokemon in the game. It's not as big as 150 like gen V, but still far bigger than the modern titles.
- - -
One last thing I forgot to say is that there's two new Eeveelutions. One is a ghost type and the other is a dragon type.

Another thing is that the Grand Colosseum will be familiar to the Pokemon league from Sword and Shield. That being said, there's no Elite Four in this game.

And that's everything else so far. Good night!
Whoever wrote this I think about it too much! O-O
although the idea seems to me that it could work under other circumstances! .-.
 

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Been thinking about this again-



Ignoring the "southern France" part because cave paintings in southern France are as valid as cave paintings in northern Spain, and as you can see, there's a good cluster of them there-

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So before we go down the "Kalos is returning??" route. Probably not.

But we haven't had any game really focus on cave paintings yet, and I don't think the chicken scratch legendary hieroglyphs in Legends Arceus really count.

Interestingly, the research trip apparently included a history specialist and a computer science professor- sounds like a couple of history/innovation experts. It says that the history specialist also wrote a book on Meiji era shrines so... maybe there is a PLA connection in SV.
 

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Yeah, I really don't think GF would go a military-esc route.

I do have to say tho, the very beginning of the leak interested me. I've been talking about wanting a different family dynamic (or a more than just Mom) for the protagonist since forever. With Ruby and Sapphire almost 20 now, it's about time they do something different.

Honestly, kind of surprised they haven't done the whole other protagonist is your twin, considering how similar most look to eachother.
 

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I understand nothing about how people are attempting to X-ray through the black smear on Khu's pokedex. How reliable will the results be?

I just saw this attempt by Blaze Incineroar on Twitter.

FTstQ5SXwAACuNv

If their guesses for the colors are accurate, I think this image includes the new pokemon. If there is a mono two-stage fire type it's not likely to be anything we already have as the last one we got was the Darumaka line and there's no way it would be on the bottom row.

Even if it's not a mono fire type, I can't seem to match the blurry colors to anything that makes sense. The color that stands out the most is the two-tone blue on the bottom row. This could actually be a lot of different types, but I can't find a match that makes the previous colors make sense.
 

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I understand nothing about how people are attempting to X-ray through the black smear on Khu's pokedex. How reliable will the results be?

I just saw this attempt by Blaze Incineroar on Twitter.

FTstQ5SXwAACuNv

If their guesses for the colors are accurate, I think this image includes the new pokemon. If there is a mono two-stage fire type it's not likely to be anything we already have as the last one we got was the Darumaka line and there's no way it would be on the bottom row.

Even if it's not a mono fire type, I can't seem to match the blurry colors to anything that makes sense. The color that stands out the most is the two-tone blue on the bottom row. This could actually be a lot of different types, but I can't find a match that makes the previous colors make sense.
Ah yeah... I've been ignoring those attempts because it is wildly inaccurate. Anything you do to the image to try to enhance those colors into visibility is going to result in very off colors. Just look at what happened to the sky blue in Khu's desktop background- it's gone totally washed out and electric blue. Those pinks they've unearthed could be purples, the green could be yellow, the yellow could be brown... you're just not going to get an accurate result from doing that. Each blotch there could be so many different type combos.

Edit: I just did a bit of a test and I guess it could maybe work but it's still terribly inaccurate to the point that you'd have to make note of every remotely similar color per shade and try to work it out that way. And then there's the insane obstacle that is Gen 7 having a whole like third of its dex being legendaries that probably didn't make it in.
 
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Tried covering the visible portion in black and then used it as a reference to adjust the levels so both are relatively visible... still not going to get a clear picture from those lower ones.

The hot pink could be psychic or fairy.
The reds could be fire or fighting.
The blues could be ice, water, flying, ghost, or dragon.
Yellow could be electric, rock, ground, or bug.
Green could be grass or bug.
Purple could be poison, ghost, or maybe fairy.
Greyish blobs could be normal, steel, or flying.

And much of it could just be random pixels caused by the twitter upload quality.

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...this actually might be Chesnaught, Delphox and Greninja.

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Tried covering the visible portion in black and then used it as a reference to adjust the levels so both are relatively visible... still not going to get a clear picture from those lower ones.

The hot pink could be psychic or fairy.
The reds could be fire or fighting.
The blues could be ice, water, flying, ghost, or dragon.
Yellow could be electric, rock, ground, or bug.
Green could be grass or bug.
Purple could be poison, ghost, or maybe fairy.
Greyish blobs could be normal, steel, or flying.

And much of it could just be random pixels caused by the twitter upload quality.

2bH1COM.png



...this actually might be Chesnaught, Delphox and Greninja.

nEOfMIZ.png
omg yes kalos starters PLEASE
 

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Yay, the Hydreigon line's back!

Ahem... If that's accurate, then the Kalos Starters being here make sense. Greninja is the most popularly voted Starter in the franchise, we just went a generation without any access to it or the other two, and Bank is about to go down removing any access to those Starters for Home. Giving Switch players some way of getting access to them would be a very good idea on GF's part, and I wouldn't be surprised to see other examples like the Unova Starters also pop in for similar reasons.
 

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Does the spacing look strange to anyone else? It seems like tons of Gen 5 Pokémon will be in these games then, right?

Not that I’m complaining… a game with relatively few Gen 1/2 Pokémon and tons of Gen 5 seems really interesting. And I know we’re thinking the low amount of Gen 1/2 is due to a likely Johto-based game happening in Gen 9, but still. Lots and lots of room for Gen 5 lines in this image, right?
 

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Does the spacing look strange to anyone else? It seems like tons of Gen 5 Pokémon will be in these games then, right?

Not that I’m complaining… a game with relatively few Gen 1/2 Pokémon and tons of Gen 5 seems really interesting. And I know we’re thinking the low amount of Gen 1/2 is due to a likely Johto-based game happening in Gen 9, but still. Lots and lots of room for Gen 5 lines in this image, right?
Well, most of the unknown area is Gen 3-5.

Row 9 for gen VI is waaay too late. This chart is supposed be the whole pokedex, no?

The last 2 rows are almost guaranteed to be completely new.
No, judging by the dimensions of the image, it only shows returning pokemon. No new ones.
 

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I am all teh way up for the kalos starters bein in the games.

What better partner for my grass cat than my favorite starter of all time, the Fire Fennec mage of Delphi?
 

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Not much of an update but I added the pokemon we've seen in the trailer to help give an idea of how many open slots there are to work with.

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Sorry if it has already been mentionned but each line is composed of max 3 blocks, 2 small blocks and a big one for the last stage. But Qwilfish takes 2 small blocks into 1 big. Shouldn't those 3 blocks be a 3-stage Pokemon instead?
 
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