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Leaks and/or Rumours Thread

AngryBinacle

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Yeeeah, looks like it's a single stage still. And Quagsire's got a gap above it, unlike the Hoppip line, so no third evo there either.
Yeah, it's a bit of a shame, considering what Galar and Hisui have done for quite a few old Pokémon in terms of regional forms and evolutions. I especially love the latter for underrepresented lines.

Oh well, other options might be even better. Who knows. Really curious, though.
 

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Well, based on his actual useful tweet with no petty and childish insults, what about nature and time? How nature transforms over time? With time, plants grow and give us things like grapes and oranges. Tradition vs progress is the most plausible and interesting theme for the games though.
 

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Good news: If we assume this list is the same width as the PLA one theres only one row of gen 1 Pokemon this time! Compared to the two rows of PLA. In fact, if we assume the eeveelutions are in and theres no new ones, theres only 3 more Kanto lines possible other than the ones shown with what we got!

Edit: And if we assume all PLA regional forms are here than one of those 3 is the Voltorb Line.
 

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Good news: If we assume this list is the same width as the PLA one theres only one row of gen 1 Pokemon this time! Compared to the two rows of PLA. In fact, if we assume the eeveelutions are in and theres no new ones, theres only 3 more Kanto lines possible other than the ones shown with what we got!

Edit: And if we assume all PLA regional forms are here than one of those 3 is the Voltorb Line.
Not so good news for me, I like my Gen 1's over any other generation. XD

Oh well. Still got Charizard. ;P
 

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Good news: If we assume this list is the same width as the PLA one theres only one row of gen 1 Pokemon this time! Compared to the two rows of PLA. In fact, if we assume the eeveelutions are in and theres no new ones, theres only 3 more Kanto lines possible other than the ones shown with what we got!

Edit: And if we assume all PLA regional forms are here than one of those 3 is the Voltorb Line.
This makes me worried the dex is small. Also, Chansey is one of the 3 I guess.
 

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This makes me worried the dex is small. Also, Chansey is one of the 3 I guess.
Chansey, Gengar and Electrode are my guesses. (Which means no Furret sense Jumpluff is the first gen 2 :( ). Gen 2 is one of the lower Gens in terms of number of my favorite Pokemon in it so this is a plus for me! (Only Pikachu and Eevee make it to S tier)

Edit: Actually maybe they left out Gengar? Because it would be a crime to leave out Tauros. That or we aren't getting all PLA regionals.
 

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Wonder if maybe the lack of Gen 1's is indicative of a Johto remake coming this gen, though. Many of the pokemon that weren't available in SwSh were in BDSP, which cut down the list of pokemon unavailable in Gen 8 to just 63 across all of the games.

Now, Sinnoh had four generations of pokemon to include, so the lack of Sinnoh mons in SwSh wasn't particularly notable compared to any of the other generations (I think Gen 3 actually might be missing the most). But Johto only has Gen 1 and 2 to pull from, so if they were to arrange the pokedex between games to have the least going unused in 3-4 years, the brunt of what they'd be able to skip in Scarlet and Violet would have to fall upon Gen 1 and 2, favoring the later generations because the remakes won't be able to make up for it.

I mean, they could still shoehorn things into Black/White remakes, but not easily considering the main characteristic of that region was that nothing from other regions appeared there.
 

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Chansey, Gengar and Electrode are my guesses. (Which means no Furret sense Jumpluff is the first gen 2 :( ). Gen 2 is one of the lower Gens in terms of number of my favorite Pokemon in it so this is a plus for me! (Only Pikachu and Eevee make it to S tier)

Edit: Actually maybe they left out Gengar? Because it would be a crime to leave out Tauros. That or we aren't getting all PLA regionals.
Well, it doesn't look like Hisuian Arcanine's there, so maybe not?

At least I hope to hell that's not Hisuian Arcanine because screw that Arcanine. I want my fluffy pup back.
 

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Chansey, Gengar and Electrode are my guesses. (Which means no Furret sense Jumpluff is the first gen 2 :( ). Gen 2 is one of the lower Gens in terms of number of my favorite Pokemon in it so this is a plus for me! (Only Pikachu and Eevee make it to S tier)

Edit: Actually maybe they left out Gengar? Because it would be a crime to leave out Tauros. That or we aren't getting all PLA regionals.
Well, there's a few things that confuse me about this about the image. For one, why is peserker and Sneasler listed separately but Overqwil doesn't seem to be there? And Qwilfish looks like it takes up 3 slots?

13 gen 1 lines seems really low and it means almost all of them were shown in the first trailer which seems... Convenient for us being able to make it out.

Plus there's the Dratini fountain. I know that doesn't guarantee it, but I would guess that means it got in.

I could just be bad at looking at pixels, but maybe this is suppose to be a hint or it's just incomplete because he doesn't have the whole dex yet.
 

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Wonder if maybe the lack of Gen 1's is indicative of a Johto remake coming this gen, though. Many of the pokemon that weren't available in SwSh were in BDSP, which cut down the list of pokemon unavailable in Gen 8 to just 63 across all of the games.

Now, Sinnoh had four generations of pokemon to include, so the lack of Sinnoh mons in SwSh wasn't particularly notable compared to any of the other generations (I think Gen 3 actually might be missing the most). But Johto only has Gen 1 and 2 to pull from, so if they were to arrange the pokedex between games to have the least going unused in 3-4 years, the brunt of what they'd be able to skip in Scarlet and Violet would have to fall upon Gen 1 and 2, favoring the later generations because the remakes won't be able to make up for it.

I mean, they could still shoehorn things into Black/White remakes, but not easily considering the main characteristic of that region was that nothing from other regions appeared there.
Very true, they are likely prioritizing the 63 Pokémon that were not in Gen 8 and deprioritizing any Pokémon guaranteed to be in whatever other Gen 9 game(s) they are working on.
 

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Plus there's the Dratini fountain. I know that doesn't guarantee it, but I would guess that means it got in.
Well, remember the Fletchling windvane.

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But yet it didn't get in until DLC.

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Well, it doesn't look like Hisuian Arcanine's there, so maybe not?

At least I hope to hell that's not Hisuian Arcanine because screw that Arcanine. I want my fluffy pup back.
Could just not be listing the old regional Variants? That or it could be like some alolan forms in Swsh, they are transfer exclusive and as such Khu doesnt know about them/left them out of the list.
 

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Well, remember the Fletchling windvane
I know. There was also the Bellossom standees in Sun/Moon.

But sun and moon also had a Horsea fountain and Horsea was in the dex. I can't remember other specific examples, but usually it seems to be an indicator of it having a presence in the game.

With a weather vane, usually people have roosters even if they don't have roosters. I think the weather vane is suppose to be like that.
 

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Well, he did make a separate list for other forms for PLA-

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Actually, looking at this list, we can get an idea as to how Khu handles cross-gen evos and variants.

For example, here's Sneasel:
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It rather matches up with how he chose to display Meowth and Perrserker, so that one checks out.

Qwilfish still looks pretty odd but normal form Qwilfish doesn't have an evolution... so if he similarly wanted to keep the evo families together and yet list forms separate, I guess stacking Overqwil under it makes some sense. We don't really have any example of how he handles evolutions for variants whose original form is in the game but doesn't have an evo.

Edit: Oh. I think maybe what's going on here is that Qwilfish is a full square instead of a partial to indicate that it's a final evo and Khu just stacked Overqwil under it to keep them connected.
 
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Can we get the Affleck leaker or Chinese riddler back so we don't have to deal with this man-child with the mental capacity of a 9 year old anymore? What Khu said about Centro in today's "leaks"( if you even want to call them that. What a joke.), was unacceptable. Totally disgusting. And, to make matters worse, Centro hasn't even replied or even acknowledged Khu in months. He/She is ignoring Khu.And Khu is STILL attacking them.

Because Khu is a 9 year old stuck inside of a grown man's body and we all have to watch his stupid,childish antics because he's the only one we can rely on.
 

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Can we get the Affleck leaker or Chinese riddler back so we don't have to deal with this man-child with the mental capacity of a 9 year old anymore? What Khu said about Centro in today's "leaks"( if you even want to call them that. What a joke.), was unacceptable. Totally disgusting. And, to make matters worse, Centro hasn't even replied or even acknowledged Khu in months. He/She is ignoring Khu.And Khu is STILL attacking them.

Because Khu is a 9 year old stuck inside of a grown man's body and we all have to watch his stupid,childish antics because he's the only one we can rely on.
Chinese Riddler is an asshole too. The only difference is that he doesn't write in English.
Also he got pissed that his stuff was being leaked to the English community anyway. People put him on a pedestal, but he basically hates us. XD
 

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Chinese Riddler is an asshole too. The only difference is that he doesn't write in English.
Also he got pissed that his stuff was being leaked to the English community anyway. People put him on a pedestal, but he basically hates us. XD
Hmm. Wasn't aware of this. Then,please, Affleck leaker. Come back.

Watch him be the biggest piece of shit too.
 
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