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And that's exactly where you're wrong. This is a one-man show, at least for now. That's what happens with a mass-claim, and why so many people dislike it. You've got to put your faith in the confirmed Townie that he knows what he's doing, that he'll keep the information secure, that he'll set the right people up with each other, and that he'll lead the lynch using all of the information he's gathered.
There are some things that, if I told you them, would suddenly make things click into place for you. With one sentence, I could provide you and everyone else here with enough reasoning to follow me. But I can't. The information has connotations beyond just whether to lynch Beck or Forgotten, and I cannot make those public, or even (in good confidence) share them with anyone else. If I made public why I want to lynch Forgotten over Beck, and explained it in enough detail to make sense, the Mafia would have a massive advantage, and the Town would no longer have the advantage that it does. Information is the most important thing about this game, and I cannot jeopardize any of the information.
I can't give out the scumreads until Forgotten (or, I suppose, Beck) is lynched, and I can't even tell you why until then, either. Even hinting at why could unravel the whole thing, and have it all come crashing down on the Town.
Now do you understand?
GastlyGibus; I direct you to the post where I explained this already.
Not sure if I misunderstood or not, but did you say that you pressured beck into claiming exactly the same role as Forgotten.
What made you think Beck was tellin the truthNot sure if I misunderstood or not, but did you say that you pressured beck into claiming exactly the same role as Forgotten.
I was talking with him privately and he told me his role was the same as Forgotten's, that's when I figured one of them had to be lying if their role was the same.
What made you think Beck was tellin the truth
The fact he told me he had no night action made me trust him more because he were Mafia, claiming to not have it would put him on more equal ground with Forgotten because he'd have no role to prove.
Care to elaborate a bit on that? What's so "spooky" about it?That's not to say Beck's off the hook, though. Fact is, both you and Beck have me spooked with your role claims, but GM also considered the same things I gonsidered, and I have to admit, out of the two of us, GM is the more experienced and informed player. My scumdar is still fallible, probably more so than many other people's as shown by the fact that I was certain Soulmaster was scum, and I don't even have a cop role. These are things I have to keep in mind.
@GliscorMan; I do have an issue because again MAFIA IS NOT A ONE MAN SHOW! Yet that phase got treated as one. For you it may have been more, but for the thread for that phase it was about Beck vs Forgotten because we had the information in front of us in thread, not what you had. The mafia revolved around everyone not one person for one phase or ever! If disagreeing with you and pointing out how wrong you are makes me scum, then so be it, but I will not keep quiet and watch you or any one make decision that hurt the town like you just did.
I do have an issue because again MAFIA IS NOT A ONE MAN SHOW! Yet that phase got treated as one. For you it may have been more, but for the thread for that phase it was about Beck vs Forgotten because we had the information in front of us in thread, not what you had. The mafia revolved around everyone not one person for one phase or ever! If disagreeing with you and pointing out how wrong you are makes me scum, then so be it, but I will not keep quiet and watch you or any one make decision that hurt the town like you just did.
EpicMafia Wiki said:In a game with whispers enabled, the town may decide to claim to a certain clear (or near-clear), who can sort out the information in order to decide who to lynch or how otherwise to proceed (typically by finding counterclaimed roles). This has the advantage of not outing players' roles, especially power roles, to the mafia as a public massclaim would do.
Also, fun fact, Beck has been (un)surprisingly quiet since the lynch results.
@Beck; not that it's likely to change my mind at this point, considering there's pretty much a 99% probability that you're mafia, but I would love to hear what you have to say to all of this.
@GliscorMan; Did Mido claim to you? I personally doubt it.
Again, I have not told you anything about what's going on because I don't trust you, and I can't trust the public. It's as simple as that.
If you can't find it in yourself to trust the only freaking confirmed townie, then I doubt whether or not you're on the same side as I am. Highly doubt, as in I'd genuinely be impressed if you flipped Town.
Why doesn't it make sense that I can't tell you? There's a lot of information at stake, and I'm putting the needs of the Town over the needs of individuals. Chill out, it's nothing personal.
You two are literally suggesting that I throw everything I've worked for away because you don't like one of the steps.
Once again, I'm going to state that the lynch on Forgotten was not about Beck vs Forgotten.
The outcome that I'm working for is a Town victory. If you have a problem with that, speak up so we can lynch you for being Mafia.
Look we got scu- oh wait, no we didn't because for some reason logic dictates that the one that lied about their role was supposed to be town, and thus the one that evidence pointed to as town is scum.