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PREVIEW: M22: Mewtwo's Counterattack Evolution

Discussion in 'Pokémon Anime and Manga' started by Alola Adventurer, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Alola Adventurer

    Alola Adventurer Member

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    According to Dogasu's Twitter, the 23rd movie is a Mewtwo one. All we have is a title right now, so everything else is speculation. Are we getting an AU Mewtwo movie? Will it be set in the main anime universe? Will this be the same Mewtwo from the first movie?
     
  3. Unown Seer

    Unown Seer What now?

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    I wonder if it will manage to be more disappointing than the Genesect movie was, even with the real Mewtwo back. "Evolution" just screams bad news.

    I don't know why they didn't keep the Lugia movie for 2019, either.
     
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    Yawn, yet another nostalgia pandering movie.
     
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    Gabo2oo Well-Known Member

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    Just as I thought I wouldn't be able to take any more Gen 1 / Kanto BS.
    Seriously 90% of the franchise is just "nostalgia" pandering and concept recycling at this point. I'm freaking tired.
     
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    Unown Seer What now?

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    Dogasu also tweeted that Mewtwo's original VA is back, so yes, it's the same character. That said, I'd be be very surprised if this were a sequel rather than an AU movie, for four reasons:

    1. No mention of this being a SM movie.
    2. Could Mewtwo really strike back twice in the same timeline?
    3. They were scared of making Movie 16 a sequel, so what's different?
    4. I don't see them wrapping the AU series after just two movies.
     
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    Lillie Get in the bag Nebby

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    This sounds interesting so far. I'm guessing it's an AU version of Mewtwo Strikes Back.
     
  8. kantoskies

    kantoskies Prepare for over-used stock animation!

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    I wonder if Makoto and Souji will be back? Or if they'll use interesting characters?
     
  9. Lillie

    Lillie Get in the bag Nebby

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    It would be interesting if they somehow made Amber from Mewtwo's childhood apart of this movie's cast, but I doubt that it'll happen.

    I would like it if those two did return though
     
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    Unown Seer What now?

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    Hopefully not. I'd rather they keep Lisa instead, and that probably isn't happening, either. I don't even like her, but at least she undergoes some development.

    They brought back Neesha and Fergus for a cameo in Movie 20, so they still remember them. I wouldn't call either one interesting, though.

    About the only way I could be interested in the movie is if Madame Boss, Miyamoto, Dr. Fuji and Amber were involved. But Shudo is dead, so anything but an exact retelling would probably be stupid.
     
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    Shadowlarvitar Registered User

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    And the Kanto pandering continues!
    Would at least be interesting if it was in the main continuity
     
  12. FinnishPokéFan92

    FinnishPokéFan92 The ocean is my Cloyster.

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    It may be just because I'm a huge Mewtwo fanboy, but I'm personally looking forward to this already! I can't wait to see what kind of justice the new animation and art styles will give to this awesome character!
     
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    Unown Seer What now?

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    The original art style is classic, but yes, Mewtwo is incomparable to the other legendaries in terms of personality (which most of them lack).

    Has this ever happened before for a Pokemon? I only remember a weird trailer for the fourth Pikachu short.
     
  14. FinnishPokéFan92

    FinnishPokéFan92 The ocean is my Cloyster.

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    I personally liked the Mewtwo from the Best Wishes series, and thought thought that the Genesect movie was actually pretty good, especially by BW's standards.
     
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    kantoskies Prepare for over-used stock animation!

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    Please please don't let this movie be cg........i know these teasers aren't really anything but come on....thats not what I meant when I said I like them experimenting with art styles....

    And isn't this M22?
     
  16. FinnishPokéFan92

    FinnishPokéFan92 The ocean is my Cloyster.

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    My hopes are that they're only using CG for close-up and/or trailer shots. I recall them having done that before.
     
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    Unown Seer What now?

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    I don't know about BW's standards, but what did you like about that Mewtwo? Her compassion? There is nothing wrong with that kind of personality, but Mewtwo was designed with the opposite in mind. You have to show it become compassionate rather than take it for granted.

    To say nothing of the iffy circumstances of her creation that lacked any backstory.
     
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  18. FinnishPokéFan92

    FinnishPokéFan92 The ocean is my Cloyster.

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    I admit that the original Mewtwo's backstory was handled better, but this new Mewtwo's change didn't come out of nowhere. We saw why it first started to trust Pokémon, and by the end of the movie, it had also started to open up to some humans as well.

    Perhaps I just liked how it was just cold towards humans instead of going any further than that? It's kinda hard for me to express my emotions in words sometimes.

    Also, I personally liked the new Mewtwo's female voice.
     
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    Rockapheller Trainer since late 90's

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    I think the movie could introduce Rainbow Rocket and then relate the plot to Ultra Necrozma. It sounds really promising.
     
  20. KenzeyEevee

    KenzeyEevee Eevee, the one with a kind heart

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    Hmm who knows. Also I think just to show Mews Z-move too. With who will Ash travel? And which artstyle?

    Wouldnt it made more sense if they did this movie before M21?

    Many people on Twitter call it lame and just a manner to show Mewtwo X.
     
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