The user violently whirls its vines, tentacles, or the like to harshly lash the target. |
The user slams the target with a long tail, vines, or a tentacle. The target is hit twice in a row. |
Doesn't grimmsnarl have prehensile hair?and Grimmsnarl
Agreed. In the weird cases you listed below, I can easily see how all but Weezing can use Double Hit even though the description doesn't match.Double Hit is a weird case where I honestly think the move description should be changed rather than who learns it.
There is a stretch, but, on the official SwSh website it states that Inteleon has "a sharp knife hidden in its tail." Maybe Sobble has one as well and that's the "stinger."And what's up with Sobble getting Fell Stinger as an egg move? Where's the stinger?
I would imagine it just swings its tail as I think we would all presume it does when using Aqua Tail, but then yeah, that makes you wonder about so many other serpentine Pokémon that can't use it.Gyarados...idk. Either it’s using its whiskers (in which case why don’t Swalot, and Whiscash learn it?) or...its entire body. Which is hilarious to picture but also begs the question of why all eel/snake Pokémon don’t learn it.
Perhaps it is so ferocious and its Dragon Dance is so powerful it can summon Thunder from the sky. At least, that is how I explained it to myself whenever I end up thinking about it.Speaking of Gyarados, why the hell can this thing learn Thunder? Seems like the move it would be the least suited to learn.
Perhaps because Eel Pokémon are not as powerful as Gyarados is with its tail? I am only saying this based off of size. Certainly, Gyarados is bigger in size than Eelektross or Gorebyss.Gyarados...idk. Either it’s using its whiskers (in which case why don’t Swalot, and Whiscash learn it?) or...its entire body. Which is hilarious to picture but also begs the question of why all eel/snake Pokémon don’t learn it.
Hmm maybe, but what about Milotic or Steelix?Perhaps because Eel Pokémon are not as powerful as Gyarados is with its tail? I am only saying this based off of size. Certainly, Gyarados is bigger in size than Eelektross or Gorebyss.
There are other Pokémon aside from starters that have such anomalies. Did you know that at least in the Gen III games Numel can learn Flamethrower naturally, but Camerupt can't?How come Marshtomp and Swampert can only know Hydro Pump if learned as a Mudkip? No other starter has that.
Aura Wheel is Morpeko's signature move, and it refers to hamster wheels. No offense, but what does a piece of seaweed on an anchor have to do with hamsters? Besides, Aura Wheel fails if not used by Morpeko.Dhelmise: Aura Wheel
Topsy-Turvy is the Inkay line's signature move. I think a spinning Fighting-type, even if he stands on his head, is not enough to justify spreading out a signature move.Hitmontop: Topsy-Turvy
Those are two signature moves right there (Toucannon and the Zolt fossils). I don't see why those moves should be distributed any more, since those moves are what makes those Pokémon special.Fearow: Beak Blast, Bolt Beak
Just because the moves have "beak" in them doesn't mean you should give them to bird Pokémon. Bolt Beak is supposed to be exclusive to Dracozolt and Arctozolt, and it's a very powerful move. Its distribution should be kept limited imo. Saying that those bird Pokémon should get Bolt Beak is like saying Barraskewda should get Fishious Rend. Bolt Beak and Fishious Rend are moves meant for the Galar fossil Pokémon.Doduo/Dodrio: Beak Blast, Bolt Beak
Zapdos: Bolt Beak
Crabhammer is for crab Pokémon, not all Pokémon that resemble bugs. Besides, the Gligar line and the Skorupi line are based on scorpions, not crabs. Although the Dwebble line is based on hermit crabs, water erodes rock; it wouldn't make too much sense to give the move (that is basically soaking a crab's claw in water and then slamming it into the opponent) to some Rock-type Pokémon. Crabhammer in my opinion should be kept for Water-type Pokémon, since it's a powerful and consistent Water-type move that would be way too spammable, especially for non-Water-types.Paras/Parasect: Crabhammer
Gligar/Gliscor: Crabhammer
Dwebble/Crustle: Crabhammer
Skorupi/Drapion: Crabhammer
Strange Steam is Galarian Weezing's signature move, and that's how it will stay (for now, at least). Just keep the sig moves sig moves, please! Giving signature moves to other Pokémon decreases the original Pokémon's value and/or competitive viability.Heatmor: Strange Steam
Stunky/Skuntank: Strange Steam
I'm fine with Crafty Shield, but King's Shield is Aegislash's signature move! (Sirfetch'd isn't even a king, and it's too insignificant a Pokémon imo to justify giving King's Shield to it.) If anything, King's Shield should be given to Zamazenta (who should also get Body Press), since Zamazenta is a Legendary Pokémon based on royalty and a shield.Sirfetch’d: Crafty Shield, King’s Shield
Assist's direct Japanese translation is literally "cat's paw". Could you please explain why the Mime line should get Assist, since they do not have anything to do with cats?Mime Jr./Mr. Mime/Mr. Rime: Assist
While you’re correct, signature moves do not remain signature moves very long. Look at Water Shuriken, Spiky Shield, and Mystical Fire? There are handfuls of signature moves that have eventually landed their way on to other Pokémon. My reasoning is that Dhelmise has a “wheel” thus being able to spin and create moves, like how it can learn Whirlpool. I would even given Flame Wheel.Aura Wheel is Morpeko's signature move, and it refers to hamster wheels. No offense, but what does a piece of seaweed on an anchor have to do with hamsters? Besides, Aura Wheel fails if not used by Morpeko.
In some cases, GameFreak will give certain Pokemon moves based on their appearance and what they can do, as well as concepts about their species that loosely tie into that move. For example, most Flying types can learn Heat Wave (and to a lesser extent Ominous Wind and Twister in earlier generations vi) just because they have wings and can flap them to create a “Heat Wave” of sorts.Topsy-Turvy is the Inkay line's signature move. I think a spinning Fighting-type, even if he stands on his head, is not enough to justify spreading out a signature move.
Tell that to the countless others who had “signature moves that made them special” until they werenThose are two signature moves right there (Toucannon and the Zolt fossils). I don't see why those moves should be distributed any more, since those moves are what makes those Pokémon special.
Fishious Rend on Barraskewda would actually make a ton of sense, honestly. Also, see above.Just because the moves have "beak" in them doesn't mean you should give them to bird Pokémon. Bolt Beak is supposed to be exclusive to Dracozolt and Arctozolt, and it's a very powerful move. Its distribution should be kept limited imo. Saying that those bird Pokémon should get Bolt Beak is like saying Barraskewda should get Fishious Rend. Bolt Beak and Fishious Rend are moves meant for the Galar fossil Pokémon.
If certain Ground and Rock Pokemon can learn Surf, Crabhammer is fine. Also, Crabrawler isn’t Water-type but learns Crabhammer, so yeah. The concept is that crabs in general have pincers, like crawfish (Corphish) and pistol shrimp (Clawitzer) and have appendages that can do whatever is needed to learn CraCrabhammer is for crab Pokémon, not all Pokémon that resemble bugs. Besides, the Gligar line and the Skorupi line are based on scorpions, not crabs. Although the Dwebble line is based on hermit crabs, water erodes rock; it wouldn't make too much sense to give the move (that is basically soaking a crab's claw in water and then slamming it into the opponent) to some Rock-type Pokémon. Crabhammer in my opinion should be kept for Water-type Pokémon, since it's a powerful and consistent Water-type move that would be way too spammable, especially for non-Water-types.
You don’t get to deciStrange Steam is Galarian Weezing's signature move, and that's how it will stay (for now, at least). Just keep the sig moves sig moves, please! Giving signature moves to other Pokémon decreases the original Pokémon's value and/or competitive viability.
Corphish isn’t a crab...Clauncher isn’t a crab...I'm fine with Crafty Shield, but King's Shield is Aegislash's signature move! (Sirfetch'd isn't even a king, and it's too insignificant a Pokémon imo to justify giving King's Shield to it.) If anything, King's Shield should be given to Zamazenta (who should also get Body Press), since Zamazenta is a Legendary Pokémon based on royalty and a shield.
What do Drowzee, Chimchar, Sentret, Spinda and Sneasel have to do with cats and why can they learn Assist? I gave it to Mime Jr. because it learns Mimic and Copycat, so another copy-type move makes sense. Surprisingly, I left out Mirror Move.Assist's direct Japanese translation is literally "cat's paw". Could you please explain why the Mime line should get Assist, since they do not have anything to do with cats?
Believe me, I wanted Barraskewda to have Fishious Rend as well, but for the sake of game balance, I'm still going with no. As I said before, Bolt Beak and Fishious Rend are very powerful moves. Look at what happened to Dracovish in the Smogon OU metagame. It was banned because of Fishious Rend despite having a base 90 Attack and base 75 Speed. Probably every 'mon with a better Attack or Speed stat than Dracovish would get banned too if they had Fishious Rend or Bolt Beak. Those moves are simply too OP in my opinion to spread to other Pokémon besides the Galar fossils.Fishious Rend on Barraskewda would actually make a ton of sense, honestly. Also, see above.
Yes, but Surf is a TM/HM. Crabhammer is not. Besides, if the Pokémon you mentioned can't learn Liquidation, why give them Crabhammer? The two moves are quite similar.If certain Ground and Rock Pokemon can learn Surf, Crabhammer is fine.
Sorry for sounding that way. I was just giving my two cents.You don’t get to decide
Ohh, now that you say it that way, it does make sense. But what about Metronome, then? It's a wider version of Assist, basically, and I feel Assist is more similar to Metronome than it is to Mimic or Copycat.What do Drowzee, Chimchar, Sentret, Spinda and Sneasel have to do with cats and why can they learn Assist? I gave it to Mime Jr. because it learns Mimic and Copycat, so another copy-type move makes sense.
Personally, I'm not surprised. Mirror Move is Flying-type Pokémon's Copycat.Surprisingly, I left out Mirror Move.
What? Carnivine is not an octopus...?Carnivine: Octolock
Basculin: Fishious Rend
Carvanha/Sharpedo: Fishious Rend
Um, it's not steam, it's smoke.Torkoal: Strange Steam - has dust and steam billowing from its shell.
Starmie can also learn Thunder/Thunderbolt and Slowbro even knows Fire Blast/Flamethrower (but not Thunder/Thunderbolt)Speaking of Gyarados, why the hell can this thing learn Thunder? Seems like the move it would be the least suited to learn.