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Moves that Pokemon should/should not be able to learn

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I would argue that Incineroar, Blaziken (who can now use Aura Sphere), and Emboar are mixed attackers with heavy physical preferences rather than completely physical attackers; Cincerace is the complete physical specialist of the bunc
Well it’s possible, but Emboar is probably the only one who’s running a special move without sacrificing a better physical option.

Incineroar and Blaziken are probably handicapping themselves if they’re running a special move. It’s about time we see a fire starter which is meant to have a really strong special preference, and is extremely good at it.
 
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Incineroar and Blaziken are probably handicapping themselves if they’re running a special move.
Well, I would think that some starters in less recent generations were meant to be easy to use in-game for beginners, who likely don't know the difference between physical and special. Thus, even if it would be sub-optimal, Incineroar and Blaziken were probably designed to be at least usable special-wise. But, you do have a point; I would definitely like to see a special attacking Fire starter that does its job better than Delphox does. (Although, Charizard says hi?)
 
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Well, I would think that some starters in less recent generations were meant to be easy to use in-game for beginners, who likely don't know the difference between physical and special. Thus, even if it would be sub-optimal, Incineroar and Blaziken were probably designed to be at least usable special-wise. But, you do have a point; I would definitely like to see a special attacking Fire starter that does its job better than Delphox does. (Although, Charizard says hi?)
I was more geared towards competitive. They’re usable? Yes, but then, almost everything is. Literally any fully evolved Pokémon will be usable unless you stack it with 4 status moves. That really ain’t the point. But I daresay that if some person was made to look at these Pokémon and asked if they look to be physical or special, physical would be a major verdict. And their movesets and optimal configurations reflect that.

Charizard does a better job, true, but then, as GameFreak themselves like to point, it was 23 years ago. My entire point is that the overwhelming dominant mode is physical when it comes to a fire starter. It’s about time we got at least one good special fire starter in 20 years. Is it too much to ask?
 
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Well, I would think that some starters in less recent generations were meant to be easy to use in-game for beginners, who likely don't know the difference between physical and special.
I mean, if we're talking as less recent as Gen 3, then that shouldn't have been a factor in movepools, because that's prior to the physical/special split.
 
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Druddigon. Has a tail, can learn Iron tail. Breaking swipe. Explained to be an attack using a hard tail. Druddigon cannot learn Breaking swipe. WHY?
Okay, so I was looking at the Gen VIII move listings and apparently Electivire doesn't learn Close Combat when even things like Tauros and Bouffalant do. Whut.
I KNOW RIGHT? Quoting a previous post of mine: “As for the other side, every quadruped creature capable of learning Close combat. I got a Close combat TR in Shield, to teach it to my Gallade, and then found out my Tauros can learn it. HOW? How does a Tauros, something that is seemingly always on all fours, suddenly start punching the shit out of the opponent despite the lack of fists, how?”

According to a reply on this exact topic I posted on Reddit, Close combat isn’t just fists but fighting in general, and can therfore include claws and horns. But then, the pre 3D games had the Close combat animation be fists!
 
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Vileplume shouldn't learn Aromatherapy. Why does it learn it, but Bellossom does not?

Edit: to add to this; I feel like Bellossom should be able to learn Heal Bell since it's pokedex entries say: " When it dances, its petals rub together and make a pleasant ringing sound." That and the fact that "bell" is in the name and it is bell-shaped.
 
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Vileplume shouldn't learn Aromatherapy. Why does it learn it, but Bellossom does not?
Now that I think about it... Vileplume learning Aromatherapy kinda sounds like it'sforcing the Pokémon to walk it off by making the area smell horrible, if what little knowledge of rafflesias I have is true.
 
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Druddigon. Has a tail, can learn Iron tail. Breaking swipe. Explained to be an attack using a hard tail. Druddigon cannot learn Breaking swipe. WHY?


I KNOW RIGHT? Quoting a previous post of mine: “As for the other side, every quadruped creature capable of learning Close combat. I got a Close combat TR in Shield, to teach it to my Gallade, and then found out my Tauros can learn it. HOW? How does a Tauros, something that is seemingly always on all fours, suddenly start punching the shit out of the opponent despite the lack of fists, how?”

According to a reply on this exact topic I posted on Reddit, Close combat isn’t just fists but fighting in general, and can therfore include claws and horns. But then, the pre 3D games had the Close combat animation be fists!
Well, to be fair Staraptor has been able to learn Close Combat from day 1, so the explanation that the move represents "fighting in general" does make sense. That said, if we go by that logic, then there's no reason that any Pokemon with limbs shouldn't be able to learn Close Combat.
 
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I think close combat is for Pokémon who like to fight aggressively up close and personal with strikes.
 
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Mankey, Alakazam, and Blissey can all learn iron tail. The implications of this are scary.
 
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I just found out that Galarian Moltres doesn't get roost. It learns after you via level up instead, and roost is not even a TM/TR in Gen 8.

It doesn't make sense. This has to be fixed, perhaps with move tutors in the future or something?
 
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All of Mienshao's Generation 5 Pokédex entries and Generation 6 entries mention that it uses the extra fur on its arms like whips. Yet, Mienshao...can't learn Power Whip? I was honestly pretty surprised when I found this out.
 

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That feeling when Hitmonchan can't learn Meteor Mash. Or Keldeo with Ice Beam. On that note, why can't Keldeo learn Mega Horn. That horn is huge.

Then there's Ampharos with Tail Glow too. Kyurem-Black with Icicle Crash (Granted, it got Icicle Spear now which already is pretty damn scary but still).

Gallade and Samurott with Sacred Sword. (The latter gets Secret Sword now but for some reason not the physical variant? What's up with this.) Maybe even Shell Smash for the latter. Even if it doesn't have much shells to smash anymore. (But that never stopped Barbaracle.)

Pokémon with Bulldoze should be able to learn Earthquake like Entei and Arcanine. Snorlax and Slack Off, Tapu Koko should at least get PLay Rough if they insist on no Close Combat.

No Poison Jab for Venusaur and Greninja either. (For Venusaur I could potentially understand it but stuff like Rapidash get it too. Meanwhile, Greninja is literally a frog and there are plenty poisonous frogs out there.

And the list just goes on and on like Pokémon that learn Charge Beam but not Thunderbolt.
 
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Sirfetch'd cannot learn Sacred Sword despite literally holding a sword.
Gallade and Samurott with Sacred Sword. (The latter gets Secret Sword now but for some reason not the physical variant? What's up with this.)
Er, Samurott can already learn Sacred Sword through breeding and Secret Sword is exclusive to Keldeo.

Edit: As it turns out, Sacred Sword is only an egg move in USUM. Nevermind.
Edit 2: As it turns out, USUM is the last game the Samurott line is in, as swiftgallade46 pointed out. I thought the gen 5 starters made it to gen 8 and GameFreak dropped Sacred Sword from Oshawott's gen 8 egg moves for whatever reason--turns out this isn't true.
 
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Sirfetch'd cannot learn Sacred Sword despite literally holding a sword.

Er, Samurott can already learn Sacred Sword through breeding and Secret Sword is exclusive to Keldeo.

Edit: As it turns out, Sacred Sword is only an egg move in USUM. Nevermind.
I constantly mix them up. Woops. My bad.
 
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Sirfetch'd cannot learn Sacred Sword despite literally holding a sword.

Er, Samurott can already learn Sacred Sword through breeding and Secret Sword is exclusive to Keldeo.

Edit: As it turns out, Sacred Sword is only an egg move in USUM. Nevermind.
Well considering that’s the last game the Oshawott line was present in, I’d say it still counts.
 
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