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Neverending Romance -- The Shipping List Revival

So. We've had discussions here about ship names that contain nsfw elements, those containing offensive language (ie the older name for Steven/Cynthia), and how alternate names for these ships can be added to the list or made otherwise 'official' and more widespread due to the nature of these 'original' names. I wanted to bring up another instance where I think it'd be beneficial to propose alternate ship names that I haven't seen discussed yet - racially insensitive names. Recently, Pokemon Masters got me into the idea of Emma/Shauna as a ship, but I was dismayed to look them up on this list to find out their 'official' name was after the nation of Seychelles, which considering the ship involves two brown girls was just a real big yikes to me and was not something I'd ever feel comfortable using. I've been using the name "WhodunnitShipping" among my friends but I realized I ought to bring this up to the wider community since it's been bothering me for a while, especially since this is a ship I've seen other people talking about (though I tend to focus my fandom discussion to private groups so am not sure if other people have been using this name or another one). So, I guess this is mainly just an inquiry about adding another alternate name to the list - I've not done a deep dive into other names that might be problematic in this nature since I do know the official stance of the thread regarding this, but it is something I wanted to bring attention to either way since we've been mainly discussing ship names that contain more nsfw elements and I figure it's worthwhile to add to the discussion.

(Also in my biased opinion WhodunnitShipping suits the two much better anyways given its relation to detective stories, amateur crime solving, and Shauna's own love of puzzles and Emma being a detective so there's my two cents.)
 
So. We've had discussions here about ship names that contain nsfw elements, those containing offensive language (ie the older name for Steven/Cynthia), and how alternate names for these ships can be added to the list or made otherwise 'official' and more widespread due to the nature of these 'original' names. I wanted to bring up another instance where I think it'd be beneficial to propose alternate ship names that I haven't seen discussed yet - racially insensitive names. Recently, Pokemon Masters got me into the idea of Emma/Shauna as a ship, but I was dismayed to look them up on this list to find out their 'official' name was after the nation of Seychelles, which considering the ship involves two brown girls was just a real big yikes to me and was not something I'd ever feel comfortable using. I've been using the name "WhodunnitShipping" among my friends but I realized I ought to bring this up to the wider community since it's been bothering me for a while, especially since this is a ship I've seen other people talking about (though I tend to focus my fandom discussion to private groups so am not sure if other people have been using this name or another one). So, I guess this is mainly just an inquiry about adding another alternate name to the list - I've not done a deep dive into other names that might be problematic in this nature since I do know the official stance of the thread regarding this, but it is something I wanted to bring attention to either way since we've been mainly discussing ship names that contain more nsfw elements and I figure it's worthwhile to add to the discussion.

(Also in my biased opinion WhodunnitShipping suits the two much better anyways given its relation to detective stories, amateur crime solving, and Shauna's own love of puzzles and Emma being a detective so there's my two cents.)
I'm obvs in favor of using alternative names for racist/racially insensitive ship names (and this specific one is probably far from the only example of this), but do you mind if I ask for some clarification about the parameters? I'm not really knowledgeable about Seychelles (country or ship XP), and wasn't the one who named the ship, so I can't say if this is definitively the case, but from a quick glance at the country's wikipedia page, it seems likely to me that the name was chosen for the ship bc (according to said page) the culture and society have "French influences"---a lot of Kalos ships seem to have a sort of "everything and the kitchen sink" approach to cramming in whatever French references ppl could think of, so I doubt the person who coined the ship name meant for it to be racially insensitive. But anyway, my question is this: are we wanting to steer away from using any country or race name at all (in the name of...idk, uniformity, I suppose?), or only the ones w/ POC majority populations? Idk if y'all will get this American reference (and I don't really know much about sports either), but I remember the controversy around changing the name of a football team here, which is currently known as the "Washington Commanders", and I know, apart from its general place in the "Native American mascot controversy", a large part of the push behind wanting to change the old name was bc it was considered to be a racial slur (which is why I'm trying to avoid typing it here; I guess you guys can google it if you don't know what I'm talking about)---this is largely what my frame of reference is when it comes to changing names to avoid racist slurs/insensitivity. I guess I'd like to know where y'all see the line as being, when it comes to things that fall more on the "insensitive" side than outright offensive? Like, you mentioned that the ship in question "involves two brown girls"---is that what tips "Seychelles" over the line into being insensitive, or would you consider it equally so if the ship consisted of white/non-brown POC characters? I personally am white, so I'd rather defer to the judgement of any POC in the fandom when it comes to determining such boundaries, as I fear my white privilege might otherwise miss out on nuances in this situation. (And along with that admission, I apologize in advance if any of my ignorance/questions are insensitive in any way, and if so, I'd welcome any education in how to potentially word things better in the future!)

And, I suppose, we should probably expand this to include reworking names that involve other kinds of slurs/insensitivity to other marginalized identities? The ableist r-word slur is what's coming to mind rn. And even just sticking with racism, I'd frankly be surprised if the list contained no instances of the g-slur or its derivatives, since that's one that tends to be relatively unknown (especially in America), so I'm also worried about glossing over lesser known slurs. :/

Edit: I decided to settle my curiosity, and at least on the old version (idk about the Revival version, but I find it a greater pain to search and i don't have the energy for that rn), I was indeed correct, and the g-slur is being used for a ship name, but the ship in question is Kirlia/Quilava, so....at least it's not a ship that I imagine has any real popularity or likelihood of being seen around a lot?
 
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I agree with you that there's a lot of nuance going into what would be considered too far or not, esp as a white American myself. I'm sure it's the kind of name that some people wouldn't find so uncomfortable but to myself personally naming ships after real locations that have colonial histories and associations can end up giving a bit of a questionable vibe imo, especially involving nowhite characters. But it would be hard to draw the line between what's considered 'too far'. I guess an example of a real-world-place reference ship that is perfectly fine would be something like "FrenchShipping" (Fantina/Juan) since both characters have obvious French words in their dialogue, or any of the ship names that mention Las Vegas that involve dark-type specialists, or EgyptShipping involving two pokemon rather than humans? I'm happy to hear other view points! I only brought up that ship name specifically because it was one I encountered when looking up a ship I really enjoy, so there are probably other better examples of what I was trying to convey in my initial post. I don't run this list and am not the final arbiter of parameters, so I just wanted to add this to the conversation since the topic of poorly aged/thought out ship names had come up before. I don't want to advocate for getting rid of a bunch of ship names, esp with other ones containing other types of offensive language are left up for archival purposes, but I figured it was worth a discussion!
 
Is this accepting submissions to the list? If so, I’d like it if you’d add the ship ShortbreadShipping, aka Katyton, the ship between Katy (Scarlet/Violet) and Professor Laventon(Legends: Arceus)? Not sure if it matters but their emoji combo is
 
Like Cyrus, I've been lurking for a long time but decided I should finally post a couple ships!

DirectorShipping - Clavell & Cyrano
I saw someone else suggest FruitageShipping and I do like it, but I thought I'd throw Director into the ring, since they're both academy directors.

FlowerPoetryShipping - Aya (anime) & Erika
Some of the ship names I wanted for them were taken. Flower represents Erika and Aya likes poetry, so...

GoCopycat - Chase & Copycat Girl
Pretty self-explanatory, I think.

SweetChivalryShipping - Siebold, Wikstrom, & Evelyn
I've seen Sweet used for Evelyn a couple of times, but I think it could also apply to Siebold's cooking. Wikstrom obviously represents Chivalry.

TouringShipping - Alexa (XY) & Kahili
Kahili is a professional golfer (golf tournaments) and Alexa "tours" places for her journalism.

TropicalMeltShipping - Ilima, Kiawe, & Lana
Their colors are all kind of tropical (+ Ilima/Kiawe is YellowFlower), they live in Alola (tropical), and Kiawe is the person to bring them together (hence "melt") since iirc Kiawe kind of idolized Ilima in the anime + since Kiawe is friends with Lana.

Not mine but I've seen it around Tumblr and thought it was really cute:
SewnEeveeShipping - Atticus & Penny
 
I saw someone else suggest FruitageShipping
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Ok, I need to ask: how come there are no names for any of the scarlet and violet ships? It has been a year since the releases of those games after all
 
Ok, I need to ask: how come there are no names for any of the scarlet and violet ships? It has been a year since the releases of those games after all
The list had been updated on November 18th of 2022, and the S/V ship naming was put on hold until January 2023. The problem is that we don't know when the list will be updated again.
 
we'll probably need to wait to see because i imagine this ship will be quite a popular one bc of the canon backing for it that implies crispin likes lacey but i thought it'd be worth it to send a ship name that i've seen be used for them here (i saw it on a post by tumblr user scrollspeed, however im unsure of if they coined the ship name themself) just to spread the word to keep it on the radar for if it does gain traction or not; since trying to figure out ship names this gen has been messy (for me at least)

ChefsKissShipping - Crispin & Lacey
 
perhaps a useful resource, segasister on tumblr is putting together a list of sv shipping names.

the only edits i think i'd make to this list thus far is that personally i've seen TealMaskShipping be used more overall for Florian x Kieran rather than kieran with both of the protags. i think there are some posts that have used it for kieran x juliana and all 3 of them, but primarily it appears to be used for florian x kieran.
 
Got a few, if you’re still updating:

Esperanzashipping - Arven & Grusha

HaloHaloshipping - Bea & Mallow

StagePrinceshipping - Ilima & Nate

Alguienadieshipping - Aliquis & Nemona

Unitaireshipping - Ingo & Nita

Carobshipping - Kiawe & Bea

And if possible, can I change Starflameshipping to Sunjoyshipping (Kiawe x Ryuki)? I had named it originally.
 
Hi everyone, sorry for the long absence. I've been dealing with a family emergency for several months and haven't had much free time. We do have an update now, which I'm sure has been long-awaited for some. Fortunately, everything seems to have continued well while I was gone. Part of the reason I wanted to move submissions onto a public forum was so everything would remain here if I ever had to step away and no submissions would be lost, and I'm glad everything seems to have worked as intended.



This update brings a large number of PLA and SV ships, and while I've tried to check these over as best as I could, any PLA or SV name on this update may be changed in the future if it obviously pre-empted its community and I wasn't aware of a popular name. Horizons pairings are all deferred for now, you can submit them but they won't be listed in this update.



AbsolutelyGlamorousShipping - Klara & Tulip
AbsolutelyMarvelousShipping - Avery & Tulip
AbstractArtShipping - Brassius & Burgh
AbsurdlyClingyShipping - Hareta & Jun
ACloseShaveShipping - Arezu & Clover
AegeanShipping - Blue (game) & Caitlin
AegisRockShipping - Byron & Ariana
AgentPeacockShipping - Ress & Anthe
AgrajagShipping - Volo & Guzzlord
AguavBerryShipping - Mai & Munchlax
AITrainShipping - Emmet & Professor Turo
AkkodhaShipping - Volo & Nihilego
Alguienadieshipping - Aliquis & Nemona
AliceinFreezerShipping - Kofu & Wulfric
AllPatchedUpShipping - Ress & Pesselle
AlnilamShipping - Arezu & Irida
AlopeciaShipping - Ingo & Arezu
AmanitagalacticaShipping - Cyrus, Ghetsis & Cynthia
AmargoShipping - Cynthia & Dendra
AnacondaShipping - Lucy & Nemona
AncientAmourShipping - Ash & Irida
AncientFlowerShipping - Oleana & Professor Sada
AncientPhobiaShipping - Red (game) & Arezu
AnimeHairShipping - Arezu & Kirlia
AnubisShipping - Rye & Lucario
AoiMizuShipping - Furisode Girl Linnea & Manaphy
ApacheTearShipping - Lian & Vessa
AperillaShipping - Arven & Atticus
AppleCrumbleShipping - Florian & Mela
ArcboundShipping - Volo & Regieleki
ArtifactHeroShipping - Elio & Victor
ArtsAndCraftsShipping - Akari & Sanqua
BadHairDayShipping - Arezu & Misdreavus
BagOfHoldingShipping - Volo & Cosmog
BakingStreamShipping - Iono & Katy
BaronRojoShipping - Giacomo & Roxie
BattleARShipping - Male Avatar (Pokken) & Female Avatar (Pokken)
BattleGeneMShipping - Giacomo & Cynthia
BattleOnTheBattlefieldShipping - Gym Challenger Kent & Gym Challenger Deneb
BattleStarShipping - Eri & Nemona
BeastarsShipping - Lopunny & Typhlosion (Hisuian)
BeastFriendForeverShipping - Volo & Silvally
BeastKillerShipping - Volo & Type: Null
BeautifulLieShipping - Volo & Pheromosa
BeautifullyBrazenShipping - Mela & Ortega
BeautyMarkShipping - Melli & Mai
BehemothBeckonerShipping - Volo & Kyogre
BenchPressShipping - Arezu & Zisu
BeowulfShipping - Volo & Urshifu
BestOfTheBestShipping - Leon & Cynthia
BewitchedShipping - Geeta & Tulip
BickerShipping - Oscar (Hoenn) & Andi
BigDipperShipping - Giacomo, Mela, Atticus & Ortega
BigShotShipping - Banette & Porygon-Z
BigSmileShipping - Ginji & Hareta
BigSmokeOrderShipping - Beni & Snorlax
BirabutoShipping - Brandon & Caitlin
BlackBladeShipping - Volo & Kartana
BlackLotusShipping - Volo & Diancie
BlackStarShipping - Kamado & Eternatus
BlasterMasterShipping - Volo & Celesteela
BlessingFromTheLordShipping - Melli & Electrode (Hisuian)
BloodArtistShipping - Volo & Sanqua
BlueChiliShipping - Larry & Rika
BluePepperShipping - Arven & Larry
BossBattleShipping - Nemona & Penny
BottledUpShipping - Baraz & Lucianne
BoysTimesThreeShipping - Hareta, Jun & Koya
BravelyDefaultShipping - Brendan & Caitlin
BronzeBloodedShipping - Volo & Groudon
BrownRiceShipping - Rye & Mai
BrownSugarShipping - Katy & Rika
BulliedShipping - Sophocles & Eri
CaboPocoShipping - Florian, Juliana & Nemona
CactusFlowerShipping - Drew, Harley & Nando
CallOfCthuluShipping - Volo & Malamar
CalypsoShipping - Arezu & Coin
CameliaShipping - Melli & Sanqua
CanisMajorisShipping - Palina & Arcanine (Hisuian)
CanisMinorisShipping - Palina & Growlithe (Hisuian)
CanonShipping - Perrin & Viola
CaphStarShipping - Eri & Penny
CaptainShipping - Cyllene & Zisu
CaptivePrinceShipping - Looker & Shielbert
CastlevaniaShipping - Volo & Stakataka
CelesticaShipping - Volo & Cogita
CentralShipping - Kiyo & Erika
ChampionRankShipping - Juliana & Nemona
CharacterDevelopmentShipping - Lear & Paulo
CharlotteHornetsShipping - Volo & Poipole
CharmQuarkShipping - Elesa & Iono
ChefsKissShipping - Crispin & Lacey
CherryFestaShipping - Khoury & Sakura
ChicxulubShipping - Melli, Arezu & Coin
ClanMentorShipping - Gaeric & Mai
ClegohShipping - Clemont & Goh
CleromancyShipping - Grimsley & Volo
ClockworkOrangeShipping - Volo & Magearna
CloudySpecsShipping - Bianca & Penny
ColdLoverShipping - Red (game) & Irida
CompleationShipping - Volo & Kyurem
ContestLilyShipping - Chloe, Lisia, May & Serena (XY)
ContreJourShipping - Trevor & Trip
ControlledHazeShipping - Avery & Grusha
CoolAsIceShipping - Gaeric & Charm
CopierShipping - Larry & Nanu
CorruptVisorShipping - Ghetsis & Aliana
CountrysideShipping - Dana & Hayley
CrazyDiamondShipping - Gaeric & Arezu
CrazyTimeTrainShipping - Adaman, Ingo & Volo
CriminalScumShipping - Ress & Clover
CruelPoisonShipping - Grimsley & Rika
CrystaICaveShipping - Trace & Green (LGPE)
CrystalWingsShipping - Geeta & Winona
CulpableShipping - Melli & Arezu
CurseOfTheWereRabbitShipping - Clover & Lopunny
CutiePatootShipping - Iono & Rachel
CyclonicRiftShipping - Volo & Lugia
CyclopeanShipping - Volo & Melmetal
DazzlingShieldShipping - Hop & Lisia
DeathWielderShipping - Volo & Yveltal
DelicatesesShipping - Saguaro & Katy
DerpyShipping - Clodsire & Quagsire
DetectivePikaShipping - Tim Goodman & Pikachu
DiamondGalShipping - Arezu & Mai
DigitalFlareShipping - Giacomo & Mela
DireClawShipping - Sneasler & Weavile
DirectingChairShipping - Clavell & Rose
DirectorShipping - Clavell & Cyrano
DistressedFashionShipping - Gladion & Serena (XY)
DivideByZeroShipping - Volo & Missingno.
DoloreanShipping - Ortega & Valerie
DoomSlayerShipping - Ress & Arezu
DoorToNothingnessShipping - Volo & Hoopa
DoubleTypeAdvantageShipping - Avery, Klara & Tulip
DPACrescentshipping - Jun & Saturn
DPAdventureShipping - Hareta, Jun, Koya & Mitsumi
DPAGalacticBombShipping - Jun & Mars
DraconicArtShipping - Drayden & Hassel
DraconicBondShipping - Leon, Raihan & Sonia
DracoObscurusShipping - Raihan & Winona
DragonChampShipping - Goh & Iris
DreamRenderShipping - Volo & Cresselia
DynameisterShipping - Henry Sword & Casey Shield
EdgyAetherShipping - Elio, Gladion, Anabel & Lusamine
EditorInChiefShipping - Kamado & Cyllene
EiseiShipping - AZ (XY) & Cogita
EldritchMoonShipping - Darkrai & Lunala
ElegantlyBrashShipping - Eri & Ortega
EloquentRemixShipping - Atticus & Giacomo
EmotionlessSunShipping - Cyrus & Flannery
EmperionShipping - Volo & Registeel
EnvolShipping - Sabi & Braviary (Hisuian)
EphemeralArtShipping - Brassius & Hassel
EpialesShipping - Volo & Darkrai
EstrellarShipping - Eri & Mela
EverlastingBlackShipping - Cheren, Hilbert, Hugh & Nate
Ex-ChampionShipping - Drayton & Kieran
EyebagShipping - Brassius, Hassel & Larry
EyesOnMeShipping - Chaz & Yancy
FailGirlShipping - Iono & Shauntal
FairyFlowerShipping - Mina & Penny
FairyPoisonShipping - Atticus & Ortega
FarmersMarketShipping - Brassius & Milo
FashionRebelShipping - Sidney & Malva
FatalFoudreShipping - Yveltal & Zekrom
FerocidonShipping - Volo & Regidrago
FerrochrommeShipping - Keith (Pokken) & Travis (Pokken)
FightClubShipping - Marshal & Dendra
FightOrFallShipping - Mars & Maylene
FightOrFlightShipping - Dendra & Skyla
FightSquadShipping - Carmen & Eri
FightyFireShipping - Mela & Eri
FirstAndSecondShipping - Jun & Koya
FlatCheeksShipping - B-2 & Jun
FlightOfTheBumblebeeShipping - Volo & Buzzwole
FloricultureShipping - Colza & Arezu
FlowerPoetryShipping - Aya (anime) & Erika
FlyingDragonShipping - Leon & Winona
FoodForThoughtShipping - Beni & Cyllene
FoodSculptureShipping - Brassius & Siebold
ForbearShipping - Wally & Caitlin
ForestwalkShipping - Lian & Kleavor
FormidoShipping - Arezu & Purugly
FrontlineMedicShipping - Pesselle & Zisu
FrozenLoveShipping - Ghetsis & Melony
FruitfulBattleShipping - Carmine & Nemona
FruitfulHarvestShipping - Mela & Nemona
FuegoShipping - Flannery & Mela
FutureTechShipping - Jacq & Professor Turo
GakuranShipping - Adaman & Anthe
GalateaShipping - Irida & Palina
Gangsta'sParadiseShipping - Giacomo & Plumeria
GattiAmariShipping - Glameow & Sprigatito
GawdShipping - Goh & Dawn
GeniusStreamerShipping - Clemont & Iono
GentlyWeepsShipping - Clover & Cubone
GeodesistShipping - Coin & Cyllene
GhostWhispererShipping - Sabi & Vessa
GiftedKidShipping - Dexio, Ilima & Sina
GoCopycatShipping - Chase & Copycat Girl
GoldenRayedShipping - Ethan (game) & Lillie
GothamShipping - Lance, Will & Karen
GothFashionShipping - Furisode Girl Kali & Helena
GrandDayOutShipping - Clover & Growlithe (Hisuian)
GreatAxeShipping - Haxorus & Kleavor
GreatCreatorShipping - Volo & Regigigas
GreatestTreasureShipping - Florian & Juliana
GreenishSubstituteShipping - Koya & Mitsumi
GrelaineShipping - Elaine (game) & Green (LGPE)
GriseousOrbShipping - Cogita & Giratina
GroomBridgeShipping - Professor Laventon & Arezu
HairDressingShipping - Anthe & Arezu
HairyCrabShipping - Hala & Kofu
HaloHaloshipping - Bea & Mallow
HameauShipping - Brock & Argenta
HanaMusaShipping - Delia & Jessie
HantenShipping - Anthe & Irida
HaoriShipping - Melli & Anthe
HaullowShipping - Hau & Mallow
HeadbangShipping - Marnie & Mela
HealPulseShipping - Nate & Caitlin
HealthySandwichShipping - Dendra & Miriam
HeatStrokeShipping - Irida & Groudon
HellaCashMoneyShipping - Gholdengo & Meowth
HerbalistShipping - Rei & Pesselle
HerbaMysticaShipping - Arven & Juliana
HereticHealerShipping - Volo & Pesselle
Hisui'sGotTalentShipping - Melli & Irida
HolyOrderShipping - Riley & Volo
HomeBodyShipping - Saguaro & Sawyer (Masters)
HonorAmongThievesShipping - Silver (game) & Zinnia
HopePiersShipping - Hop & Piers
HoshihanaShipping - Furisode Girl Blossom & Jirachi
HotBoySummerShipping - Gordie & Marlon
HouseOfVersaceShipping - Anthe & Sanqua
HygieiaShipping - Cyllene & Pesselle
IceBloomShipping - Chloe & Regina
IceHideShipping - Volo & Regice
IconOfSinShipping - Ghetsis & Volo
IlimokuShipping - Volo & Tapu Koko
InaccuracyShipping - Shielbert & Sonia
InAllHonestyShipping - Melli & Cyllene
IncompleteShipping - Cyrus & Brigette
IndependenciaShipping - Friede & Delia
InfluencerShipping - Raihan & Iono
InfrastructureShipping - Rei & Sanqua
InsidiousFlameShipping - Malva & Mela
InspectionShipping - Nurse Joy & Latias
IslandwalkShipping - Iscan & Basculegion
ItsJustResearchShipping - Nanu & Professor Oak
JellyDonutShipping - Brock & Larry
JokerImmunityShipping - Volo & Blacephalon
JurassicParkShipping - Baxcalibur & Tyrantrum
KamaitachiShipping - Volo & Zeraora
KamuyHuciShipping - Vessa & Typhlosion (Hisuian)
KanaloaShipping - Volo & Tapu Fini
KâneShipping - Volo & Tapu Lele
KijiShipping - Kamado & Unfezant
KōdenBukuroShipping - Volo & Cyllene
KratosShipping - Volo & Zisu
LabCapeShipping - Lance & Professor Sycamore
LackeyShipping - Dakim & Ein
LakehouseShipping - Professor Turo & Professor Sada
LanaShipsItShipping - Victor & Mallow
LandfallShipping - Groudon & Xerneas
LanguageShipping - Salvatore & Professor Bellis
LastChristmasShipping - Volo & Xurkitree
LaTierraShipping - Geeta & Rika
LavenderWivesShipping - Kendra, Miriam & Tulip
LawBreakerShipping - Ress & Charm
LeftBehindShipping - Jovi & Mira
LegendaryRivalryShipping - Blue (game), Leon, Raihan & Red (game)
LegendarySnapshotShipping - Todd Snap, Trevor & Trip
LegendsPathShipping - Arven & Florian
LézardsShipping - Sawyer & Trevor
LiveOnAirShipping - Iono & Lisia
LivePerformanceShipping - Iono & Piers
LodestoneShipping - Volo & Regirock
LonoShipping - Volo & Tapu Bulu
LostButSeekingShipping - Rei & Wanda (PLA)
LotusFieldShipping - Mai & Shaymin
LuckBeALadyShipping - Luca (Duel) & Sharon (Duel)
LustrousOrbShipping - Ingo & Irida
LyonesseShipping - Cress, Siebold & Jasmine
MadameButterflyShipping - Wallace & Lusamine
MaekakeShipping - Anthe & Mai
MagentaPaintShipping - Zinzolin & Anthea
MajordomoShipping - Darach & Fantina
MalignityShipping - Coin & Toxicroak
MaquillarseShipping - Salvatore & Tulip
MascotFanClubShipping - Clefairy & Pikachu
MasterOfPuppetsShipping - Roxie & Banette
MatterOfLoafAndDeathShipping - Volo & Clover
MechanicalDollShipping - Aliana & Jupiter
MedaliShipping - Larry & Treasure Eatery Chef
MentorOfTheMeekShipping - Ress & Akari
MiaColombaShipping - Giovanni & Winona
MichiyukiShipping - Volo & Anthe
MichkaShipping - Zeke & Akari
MindSculptorShipping - Volo & Mewtwo
MintakaShipping - Arezu & Cyllene
MirdraShipping - Kendra & Miriam
MisjudgedShipping - Melli & Golbat
MonsterRebornShipping - Volo & Ho-oh
Moodshipping - Koya & Yellow (Special)
MotherBrainShipping - Volo & Lusamine
MotherFigureShipping - Silver (game) & Argenta
MountainwalkShipping - Ingo & Sneasler
MoxDiamondShipping - Lian & Rei
MoxEmeraldShipping - Lian & Wally
MoxJetShipping - Hilbert & Lian
MoxPearlShipping - Lian & Akari
MoxRubyShipping - Brendan & Lian
MoxSapphireShipping - Lian & May
MrProfessorShipping - Adaman & Professor Laventon
MukatteKuruNokaShipping - Volo & Charm
MulctShipping - Ress & Coin
MyNeighborTotoroShipping - Mai & Snorlax
MysteriousStoneShipping - Geeta & Steven Stone
NationalBirdShipping - Braviary & Braviary (Hisuian)
NeutronStarShipping - Volo & Cosmoem
NewContestShipping - Chaz (ORAS) & Janet
NextBattersBoxShipping - Whitney & Nita
NightCladShipping - Volo & Lunala
NightmareMuseShipping - Vessa & Darkrai
NightOwlShipping - Clemont & Nita
NikonShipping - Todd Snap & Trip
NimblePilfererShipping - Volo & Chimchar
NorthernSpringShipping - Regina & Soleil
Now'sYourChanceToBeAShipping - Magikarp Salesman & Porygon2
NurseHistoryShipping - Miriam & Raifort
NutKingCallShipping - Volo & Meltan
ObijimeShipping - Kamado & Anthe
OblivionGuardShipping - Volo & Ress
OldRedShipping - Kamado & Red (game)
OlympicTorchShipping - Gaeric & Melli
OmbrophobiaShipping - Mai & Sudowoodo
Operationshipping - Florian & Penny
OpposingBehindShipping - B-2 & Koya
OppositeSidesShipping - Gym Challenger Yue & Gym Challenger Wei
OptimalShipping - Thorton & Lovrina
OreburrowTunnelShipping - Kochika & Mai
OsananajimiShipping - Goh, Horace & Chloe
OssanShipping - Kabu & Larry
PainPerduShipping - Beni & Wanda (PLA)
PaintedZebraShipping - Piers & Mars
PaldeaShipping - Arven & Nemona
ParadiseLostShipping - Volo & Giratina
ParentalFeelingsShipping - Gordie & Peonia
ParentRebellionShipping - Guzma & N (BW)
ParterOfVeilsShipping - Sanqua & Zisu
PasioRivalShipping - Lear, Paulo & Tina (gen infinite)
PasiphaeShipping - Melli & Coin
PastureShipping - Colza & Marie (PLA)
PeacefulPassingShipping - Vessa & Cresselia
PepperedBeetShipping - Arven & Bede
PerfectPinkShipping - Bede & Ortega
PerformanceTestShipping - Juan & Argenta
PermaFrostShipping - Grusha & Rika
PersonOfInterestShipping - Faba & Soliera
PilafGangShipping - Shu, Mai & Impidimp
PinkDazzleShipping - Bede & Lisia
PitchBlackShipping - Hilbert & Marnie
PlainDoughnutShipping - Larry & Saguaro
PlainswalkShipping - Mai & Wyrdeer
PlowsharesShipping - Colza & Cyllene
PluviophileShipping - Mai & Kyogre
PoisonousPinkShipping - Hilda, Rosa, Roxie & Yancy
PoisonPalletShipping - Trace & Janine
PokedexHelperShipping - Trevor & Dawn
PoliteAsPieShipping - Garret & Milo
PopularFameShipping - Elesa, Rosa, Roxie & Yancy
PorungaShipping - Kamado & Thundurus
PotatoMochiShipping - Beni & Arezu
PowderedSugarShipping - Bea & Katy
PreservedPastShipping - Raifort & Professor Sada
PrestissimoShipping - Meloetta & Hilda
PrismaticBridgeShipping - Volo & Necrozma
ProgenitusShipping - Volo & Hydreigon
PromisedEndShipping - Volo & Eternatus
ProsAndConsShipping - Colress & Concordia
ProteanShipping - Greninja & Meowscarada
ProximaCentauriShipping - Irida & Palkia
PunkRapShipping - Piers & Ryme
PunkVogueShipping - Piers & Tulip
PyrrhicVictoryShipping - Lysandre & Volo
QueenNothingShipping - Noland & Caitlin
QuitePossiblyShipping - Mai & May
RadiantRaimentShipping - Anthe & Cogita
RampantGrowthShipping - Colza & Tangrowth
RavenCrystalShipping - Sidney, Steven Stone & Phoebe
RawPowerShipping - Bruno & Dendra
RazzleDazzleShipping - Razell & Dazell
ReadyToEatShipping - Beni & Ress
RealityArchitectShipping - Sanqua & Arceus
RedFieldShipping - Chris (Ranger) & Clair
RedRibbonArmyShipping - Volo & Zygarde
ReformedShipping - Eldes & Faba
RegalPortraitShipping - Hugh & Caitlin
RelicSeekerShipping - Ginter & Cogita
RemixGambitShipping - Giacomo & Grimsley
RevelInRivalryShipping - Bede, Hugh & Wally
RewriteShipping - Sordward & Sonia
RiceFieldShipping - Colza & Mai
RicePilafShipping - Beni & Mai
RikishiShipping - Dendra & Maylene
RivalsOfPaldeaShipping - Penny, Arven & Nemona
RocketJumpingShipping - Ress & Electrode (Hisuian)
RockyShipping - Cassius & Roxanne
RoomTemperatureShipping - Irida & Regice
RoseradeRibbonShipping - Drew & Nando
RotomAppShipping - Jacq & Raihan
RoundaboutOrbitShipping - Latios & Morgan
RoyalNightShipping - Shielbert & Nita
RoyalRedShipping - Lear & Red (game)
RoyalSummonerShipping - Red (game) & Caitlin
RubatoShipping - Giacomo & Ortega
SaguadraShipping - Saguaro & Kendra
SameTypeOfStandShipping - Red (game) & Volo
SamueShipping - Colza & Anthe
SandGrassShipping - Hapu & Zossie
SaturnGamingShipping - Saturn & Iono
SavingShipping - Kiawe & Sun (special)
SchedarStarShipping - Mela & Penny
SchoolyardSmackdownShipping - Bea & Dendra
ScrollRackShipping - Kamado & Sanqua
SeaintellectShipping - Goh & Misty
SecretSweetsShipping - Katy & Saguaro
SecretWeaponShipping - Ress & Zisu
SedokaShipping - Atticus & Janine
SeginStarShipping - Giacomo & Penny
SelfCareShipping - Katy & Tulip
SensooToKeiwaShipping - Arezu & Wanda (PLA)
SewnEeveeShipping - Atticus & Penny
ShadowAquamarineShipping - Sidney, Steven Stone & Wallace
ShenronShipping - Kamado & Rayquaza
ShiningBeautyShipping - Elesa & Tulip
ShockingBusinessShipping - Larry & Iono
ShortbreadShipping - Professor Laventon & Katy
SilverwareShipping - Silver (game) & Caitlin
SingleDoubleShipping - Michael & Nita
SittingStillShipping - Ginter & Arezu
SkylitShipping - Iono & Skyla
SlimFitShipping - Anthe & Zisu
SmeltShipping - Kabu & Peony
SmoothInterludeShipping - Gaeric & Coin
SnakeStoneShipping - Steven Stone & Lucy
SnowdropShipping - Colza & Irida
SnowShockShipping - Grusha & Iono
SnowyAltariaShipping - Grusha & Winona
SolarSkyShipping - Cyrus & Winona
SolidarityShipping - Adaman, Irida & Volo
SongsOfTheSeaShipping - Kanoa & Ida
SpaceChannel5Shipping - Yancy & Palkia
SpaceOddityShipping - David (movie) & Mars
SplittingHairShipping - Kamado & Arezu
SpringSpriteShipping - Florian & Ortega
SquirrelGeneralShipping - Volo & Pachirisu
StagePrinceshipping - Ilima & Nate
StandPowerShipping - Volo & Marshadow
StandUserShipping - Dendra & Sabrina
StaraptorShipping - Darach & Larry
StarfallShipping - Juliana & Penny
StarsOnTheRocksShipping - Gym Challenger Cher & Gym Challenger Vega
StarSquadShipping - Atticus, Eri, Giacomo, Mela & Ortega
StarStreamerShipping - Curtis & Iono
SteamedHamsShipping - Butler Chalmers & Seymour
StickerbrushSymphonyShipping - Volo & Naganadel
StonksShipping - Ginter & Pesselle
SturdyDiamondShipping - Kochika & Arezu
StylishSelfieShipping - Furisode Girl Kali & Naomi (Masters)
SublimeArtificerShipping - Anvin & Sanqua
SubtleBrushShipping - Cyllene & Sanqua
SufferingArtistShipping - Brassius & Piers
SugarAndSpiceShipping - Guzma & Katy
SugarChefShipping - Siebold & Katy
SugarpalmShipping - Palmer & Roseanne
SuijutsuShipping - Brawly & Dendra
SuitAndTieShipping - Larry & Looker
SunCrownedShipping - Volo & Solgaleo
SuperChampionShipping - Geeta & Nemona
SwampwalkShipping - Calaba & Ursaluna
SweetChivalryShipping - Siebold, Wikstrom & Evelyn
SycoraxShipping - Melli & Skuntank
SyncEvolutionShipping - Professor Sycamore & Professor Bellis
SynergyBurstShipping - Male Avatar (Pokken) & Anne (Pokken)
SynergyStoneShipping - Anne (Pokken) & Female Avatar (Pokken)
SynergySupportShipping - Male Avatar (Pokken) & Nia (Pokken)
TaiyouKeiShipping - Melli, Arezu, Cyllene & Coin
TanzenShipping - Gaeric & Anthe
TarteTatinShipping - Juliana & Mela
TeamStarShipping - Atticus, Giacomo, Ortega, Eri, Mela & Penny
TechnicalOrderShipping - Zygarde & Kimia
TechnoWizardShipping - Ortega & Penny
TemporalWhiskersShipping - Dialga & Whiscash
TenementShipping - Floaro & Sanqua
TerminologyShipping - Jacq & Salvatore
TerrariumShipping - Colza & Sanqua
ThankfulDeathShipping - Vessa & Spiritomb
TheologyShipping - Volo & Wallace
TheTimeIsNowShipping - Brawly & Eri
ThickGlassesShipping - Jacq & Molayne
ThiefOfCrownsShipping - Volo & Xerneas
ThousandYearStormShipping - Volo & Zekrom
TimeMixShipping - Arven & Giacomo
TimeTravelShipping - Adaman & Ingo
TitaniaShipping - Lian & Sabi
TomeOfHearts - Hop & Sonia
TorchOfDefianceShipping - Volo & Reshiram
TouringShipping - Alexa (XY) & Kahili
TrainCemeteryShipping - Ingo & Anthe
TripleAceShipping - Grimsley, James & Jessie
TripodShipping - Chili & Trip
TropicalMeltShipping - Ilima, Kiawe & Lana
TrussardiShipping - Beni & Pesselle
TuldraShipping - Kendra & Tulip
TwoFaceShipping - Volo & Coin
TypeMatchupsShipping - Iono & Rika
TyrShipping - Volo & Arezu
UberDelivererShipping - Arceus & Sneasler
UgajinShipping - Volo & Enamorus
UnbeatableRivalShipping - Blue (game) & Raihan
UrDragonShipping - Volo & Rayquaza
Uvashipping - Arven, Juliana, Nemona & Penny
ValakutShipping - Volo & Volcanion
VanGoghShipping - Brassius & Olympia
VanillaCupcakeShipping - Larry & Katy
VeeVeeShipping - Chloe & Penny
VeneziaRantShipping - Clover & Irida
VibrationShipping - Carmine & Iono
VolcanoBakemeatShipping - Kiawe & Mela
VotiveCandleShipping - Vessa & Litwick
Wayfarer'sBaubleShipping - Colza & Ginter
WelcomeCupShipping - Clavell & SV Mom
WhiteAlbumShipping - Gaeric & Clover
WingChunShipping - Dendra & Tulip
WitchDoctorShipping - Melli & Pesselle
WorldBuildingShipping - Sanqua & Palkia
WorldOverHeavenShipping - Volo & Deoxys
WrestlerShipping - Arley & Crasher Wake
WrongTrousersShipping - Clover & Coin
XilienForcesShipping - Armaldo & Hydreigon
YellingAtCloudShipping - Mai & Landorus
YoruShipping - Furisode Girl Kali & Darkrai
YoungTalentShipping - Liza & Poppy
YukataShipping - Anthe & Cyllene
ZekShipping - Zeke & Zekrom
ZeroShipping - Clavell & Professor Turo
ZeroTrioshipping - Clavell, Professor Turo & Professor Sada



AmongUsShipping - Amoonguss & Electrode
AreaZeroShipping - Arven, Florian, Juliana, Nemona & Penny
AreaZeroShipping - Clavell & Professor Turo
AuraAuditionShipping - Riley & Diantha
BackantoShipping - Chase & Trace
BladeBlossomShipping - Cyllene & Zisu
BrownishShipping - Trace & Elaine (game)
BusinessClassShipping - Burgh & Clay
Carobshipping - Kiawe & Bea
ChaserstyleShipping - Quillon & Danika
ConstellationShipping - Atticus, Giacomo, Ortega, Eri, Mela & Penny
ContrastingTypesShipping - Bede & Marnie
CoordinationShipping - Dawn, May & Zoey
CutePolicyShipping - Chase & Misty
DonnybrookShipping - Bea & Dendra
DoraHuntShipping - Goh & Iris
ElectricFameShipping - Elesa & Iono
Esperanzashipping - Arven & Grusha
ESPShipping - Dendra & Tulip
EverlastingWhiteShipping - Bianca (BW), Hilda & Rosa
ExhaustShipping - Giacomo & Mela
FashionableShipping - Elesa, Nessa & Valerie
FlatAssShipping - B-2 & Jun
Flavorshipping - Cilan & Mallow
FourWingedAngelShipping - Diantha & Winona
FreshTakeShipping - Cilan & Alexa (XY)
FruitageShipping - Clavell & Cyrano
GalaxyShipping - Saturn, Jupiter & Mars
GhostTypeShipping - Lucian & Shauntal
GiarvenShipping - Arven & Giacomo
GloryWinnerShipping - Victor & Gloria
HachimakiShipping - Beni & Anthe
InspirationShipping - Elesa & Skyla
LetsgopeShipping - Chase & Elaine (game)
LighthouseShipping - Arven & Floria
LumiéreVerteShipping - Chloe & Serena (XY)
MegaFlameShipping - Alain & Malva
MewProjectShipping - Gary & Goh
MiraifortShipping - Miriam & Raifort
NaviStarShipping - Atticus & Penny
NemopenShipping - Nemona & Penny
NewHorizonShipping - Colza & Cyllene
NinjaStarShipping - Atticus & Ortega
OgreShipping - Kieran & Juliana
PaldeaShipping - Arven, Florian, Juliana & Nemona
PicnicShipping - Leon, Milo, Piers & Raihan
RoosterShipping - Blaziken & Tapu Koko
RuchbahStarShipping - Ortega & Penny
SaikouShipping - Bea & Korrina
ScaldingTeaShipping - Cress & Hilbert
ScarVioShipping - Professor Turo & Professor Sada
SeniorRivalShipping - Arven & Nemona
SereneMoonFlowersShipping - Lillie, Selene & Serena (XY)
SnowyStreamerShipping - Grusha & Iono
SpikeLockShipping - Hugh & Roxie
SpikeStyleShipping - Nate & Roxie
StardanShipping - Florian & Penny
StarFightingShipping - Carmen & Eri
TakaramonoShipping - Florian & Nemona
Unitaireshipping - Ingo & Nita
UpsetterShipping - Melli & Skuntank
ValleyOfTearsShipping - Gaeric & Clover
VictoryPathShipping - Juliana & Nemona
WholeheartedShipping - Jacq & Sonia
WonderGenderShipping - Grusha & Rika



the reason is that i'm dumb lol

NewfoundRegalShipping will stand as it's the name with real-world usage.

Note to self: Fix RoyalLoversShipping. Audit Scottie, Bettie, and Lear names.
Fixed. And I don't remember why I thought this needed an audit, but those names aren't shared by any other character on Bulbapedia so they shouldn't need tags.

The convention used by the list previously was to treat Blanche (GO) as a female character, which is how Blanche is gendered in all translations that gender the character, but perhaps this is worth reevaluating.

Note to self: Clean up untagged Blanche ships
Deferring any decisions on how to order characters that aren't explicitly male or female because I'd like to hear more opinions in the future. All Blanche ships are tagged now; I had to guess on a couple of them so if I mistagged your Blanche please let me know!

Edit, after I investigated this a little further: PaldeaShipping is going to be closely monitored but it looks like Arven x Nemona is indeed the most popular pairing for the name at the moment. GreatestTreasureShipping, however, seems to only be used by the submitter and one or two other people right now. This pairing and name will be monitored for growth as all submissions are at the start of a generation, but it seems very unlikely to me that the most popular name for a protagonist ship would only have two or three users at this point.
I'm listing GreatestTreasureShipping - Florian & Juliana because I haven't found a more popular name anywhere, but like all of the SV names in this update, the possibility remains that I just haven't checked the right place. PaldeaShipping - Arven & Nemona is still incredibly popular though, I don't have any doubts about that.

This one has kind of a funny history. It was actually submitted on Serebii all the way back in December 2019, and rejected in the update a few days later because of the conflict and minimal usage. I still believe that was the correct decision at the time in 2019, but there does seem to have been a lot of growth since then. I'll revisit the issue in the next update.
LochNessShipping - Raihan & Nessa is really overwhelmingly popular at this point. I don't think there's much that can be done about it. It has been added to the list.

i was looking through the list and noticed a few oddities and errors i thought would be worth pointing out. im not very savvy with the reply feature, so ill just be doing a lot of copy pasting

ElderPartnerShipping - Mimey (Mr. Mime) & Rotom (Professor OakÂ’s)
typo, not sure what that  is doing there

BrightStarshipping - Hilda (Adventures) & Moon (Special)
there is no hilda in adventures, this is probably supposed to be white, her adventures/special counterpart

NarrativeShipping - Chase, Trace & Elaine
PoisonLaneShipping - Elaine & Janine

theres both Elaine (game) and Elaine (ranger), but these two dont specify. NarrativeShipping is most likely elaine (game) given who shes paired with, but i have no clue for PoisonLaneShipping

SkyFallenShipping - Rei & Akari
SpatialDawnShipping - Akari & Irida
WielderShipping - Volo & Akari

i didnt realise when i was submitting pla ship names, but rei and akari are already names on the list. either these ones should probably be changed to Rei (PLA) and Akari (PLA), or all the other ships with a rei or akari be changed to Rei (GDZ) and Akari (HIBAPC)

RoyalLoversShipping - Rachel & Sawyer
another one i didnt realise when i submitted it, rachel and sawyer are both names already on the list. these should probably be changed to Rachel (Masters) and Sawyer (Masters). there are other unspecified sawyers and rachels, but i dont think any of them are the masters ones. also i wasnt aware of the general formatting rules when i submitted this so the characters arent in the correct order, so if thats a priority it should probably be fixed

SpiritCrownShipping - Allister & Florian
it seems like a SV ship name was accepted early. florian, the male player character from sv, is as far as i can find the only florian in pokemon


im not sure how high priority consistency with the specifying thing for multiple characters with the same name is, but i noticed a fair amount of inconsistencies so i figured theyd be worth mentioning

ManchaShipping - Iron-Masked Marauder & Victor (Battle Frontier)
in all of this victors other ships names he is listed as Victor (Frontier)

FrontBangShipping - Gladion (game) & Alolan Ace Trainer (game)
in every other ship name hes in, gladion is just listed as Gladion without any (game)

InquisitiveShipping - Sawyer (XY) & Tate
in every other instance, sawyer isnt listed with any specification as to which one it is. though as there are two sawyers, this is a bit confusing

WeWereOnABreakShipping - Ross & Rachel
MossDeepShipping - Jin & Rachel

two unspecified rachels, these are both likely Rachel (Hoenn)

CompassionateAuraShipping - N & Riley
He'sNotHomeShipping - N & Wikstrom's armor
MotheroceanShipping - N & Lapras
ParadigmShiftShipping - Brock & N
SameHairShipping - Leon & N
ThreepartequationShipping - Hilbert, N & Zero
UltraHeroShipping - Dulse & N
UnovaCrewShipping - Cheren, Hilbert, Hugh, N, Nate, Bianca (BW), Hilda & Rosa
UnsolvableShipping - N & Enigma E

n is usually listed as N (BW), and here all the instances i found where he isnt


and there is a lot of inconsistency around the adventures/special characters. theyre sometimes called (Special), sometimes (Adventures), and sometimes no specification at all. White alone has instances of all three. if theres interest in consistency for that, ill probably go through all the dex holders and note the inconsistencies, but for now theres too much for me to want to put it in this message.


and one final thing, im very late to this but awhile back there was a very brief discussion of how characters with undefined genders like blanche from go should be formatted, and i wanted to add my input as a nonbinary person.
so the general formatting goes: male humans, female humans, pokemon, inanimate objects
i would personally put human characters who arent male or female right after the female humans, and before pokemon. so: male humans, female humans, nonbinary/undefined/ect humans, pokemon, objects
but thats just how i would do it. its not super relevant right now, as i believe blanche and rhi (another go character) are the only genderless human characters in the franchise, but that might not always be the case. decided on how they should fit into the formatting is probably a good idea for future proofing



Edit: something i was going to mention but forgot
GoldenTrioShipping - Harry, Ronald & Hermione
GreatEscapeTunnelsShipping - Ace Trainer Tom, Dick & Harry

there are three different harrys in pokemon, Harry Goodman from detective pikachu, Harry a character of the day from the sun and moon anime (sm011, young kiawe had a farm), and Harry from the Team Rocket Elite Trio in adventures/special. context does not help me figure out what harrys these are supposed to be
All of these have been fixed now, thanks again for pointing it out!

There’s a few other ships with no ship names so I’mma use the Japanese names:
DaiMusa (I’ll let you figure this one out lol and if possible help me make a ship name for it)
Edit: I found it: RoyaltyDayDreamsShipping. It’s a dead ship, but I want to revive it.
MikuMusa (the episode before May came back in Diamond and Pearl)
PlataMina (the episode where Ash and friends meet the Kalos champion)
Very obscure ships indeed lol
To be clear, I can't list anything if you don't give me the characters in the pairing or a name you want them listed as. I would also like to please ask people to stay away from simply combining the names of characters and adding "Shipping" at the end, especially if we're just recycling the Japanese pairing name.

Oh shoot I didn’t know that-
Then I guess I gave it an alternate shipping name, huh?
Just for future reference, we generally don't allow alternate or conflicting names unless there's already overwhelming community support for the name.

i checked and as far as i could find these don't conflict with the list or any suggestions, but if they do and i missed it let me know and i'll come up with another name!

RewriteShipping - Sordward & Sonia
InaccuracyShipping - Shielbert & Sonia

rewriteshipping derived from sonia "rewriting" history with her book + inaccuracyshipping derived from the phrase "historical inaccuracy".
Frankly shocked that either of these names were free, but sometimes you can still find a simple name that hasn't been taken yet. Congrats to you for claiming them.

with the pokken tournament characters, i was just going off how theyre already listed on the list, but there was also only one instance of the pokken protagonist to base it off. for consistencies sake, maybe the avatars should also be listed as (Pokken Tournament) instead of just (Pokken), or maybe the characters listed as (Pokken Tournament) should be shorted to (Pokken) to take up less space? i dont know if consistencies of tagging across a game as a whole is a priority, or if it just matters that a character is consistent with themself
The amount of space is a negligible difference, but I do agree that the characters from the same media should have the same tag when it's needed. "Pokken" is a unique enough descriptor, so all of the tags have been changed over to that. Thanks for pointing this out!

I wanted to ask : for the purpose of the shipping list, are Leaf and Green from the Let's Go games considered the same character, or do they have to be counted separately ?
you poor poor fool don't you know what you've done

This is a great question, and while I personally don't see any significant difference between Green in LGPE and Leaf, I do understand that this is an exceptionally contentious issue for some. I'm going to defer to Bulbapedia's current practice and list Green and Leaf as separate characters. This particular character will be tagged as Green (LGPE).

Also, I noticed that "BravenessShipping" refers to Brandon as "Pyramid King Brandon". I'm assuming this is the same character since this is the only mention of Pyramid King "X" in the entire list.
While I'm not sure why Brandon is given his title here, this particular listing was apparently from 2016. It definitely refers to the same character, so I'm removing the title to simply be "Brandon" as it is elsewhere.

i know we're now allowed to submit SV shipping names, but what's the policy for DLC ships? just because i was thinking of coming up with some ideas since most of these ships don't have names yet
Same rules as SV ships for the time being, no special submission ban but they may be subject to deferral or changes if there are significant community developments.

I assume because the front page date asks we not name SV ships until "after January 1st, 2023" that we are permitted to now in October of 2023?
That'd be correct, unless you manage to time travel back to 2022. If you time traveled from 2022 all the way to October 2023 just to submit Pokemon ships I'd be far too impressed to strike any of them down.

I also noticed UltraSpaceShipping (x) (x) isn't on the list, it seems to be equally, if not more, popular than the MeanBeanShipping listed (most tumblr posts in MeanBeanShipping are also tagged UltraSpaceShipping, there are no results through Spotify playlists nor through AO3).... They're both Mohn & Lusamine ships. Is it possible ships can have 2 names? I am unfamiliar with fandom regular consideration there. I had known it as UltraSpaceShipping since SM released and only looking at this list did I realize it had an entirely different tag dedicated to it. UltraSpaceShipping has also never been claimed for anything else except Mohn & Lusamine... thanks!
MeanBeanShipping and UltraSpaceShipping appear to be about equal in popularity. Given MeanBeanShipping's age (it predates my involvement with the list) I'm hesitant to make any changes at this point. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of UltraSpaceShipping being recognized as an alternative on the untouchables list at some point, though.

If this isn’t allowed, you can tell me to delete it, but what the actual heck are some of these ships (and names)? No hate to people who ship these, but personally, human x Pokémon ships make me uncomfortable and some of these names are just… what

Edit: I was scrolling the list and I found this ship…

This, for one makes me uncomfortable knowing people ship this and two, what is that name

Fandoms are weird sometimes. Not you guys though, you’re great
Not gonna lie, there's a lot of weird, strange, even uncomfortable stuff on the list. Like Orchid said, it comes with the territory of being such an old document. Seriously, archives go back to at least 2005. That's an eternity in Internet time.

So. We've had discussions here about ship names that contain nsfw elements, those containing offensive language (ie the older name for Steven/Cynthia), and how alternate names for these ships can be added to the list or made otherwise 'official' and more widespread due to the nature of these 'original' names. I wanted to bring up another instance where I think it'd be beneficial to propose alternate ship names that I haven't seen discussed yet - racially insensitive names. Recently, Pokemon Masters got me into the idea of Emma/Shauna as a ship, but I was dismayed to look them up on this list to find out their 'official' name was after the nation of Seychelles, which considering the ship involves two brown girls was just a real big yikes to me and was not something I'd ever feel comfortable using. I've been using the name "WhodunnitShipping" among my friends but I realized I ought to bring this up to the wider community since it's been bothering me for a while, especially since this is a ship I've seen other people talking about (though I tend to focus my fandom discussion to private groups so am not sure if other people have been using this name or another one). So, I guess this is mainly just an inquiry about adding another alternate name to the list - I've not done a deep dive into other names that might be problematic in this nature since I do know the official stance of the thread regarding this, but it is something I wanted to bring attention to either way since we've been mainly discussing ship names that contain more nsfw elements and I figure it's worthwhile to add to the discussion.

(Also in my biased opinion WhodunnitShipping suits the two much better anyways given its relation to detective stories, amateur crime solving, and Shauna's own love of puzzles and Emma being a detective so there's my two cents.)
This specific name was added about ten years ago, though the manager (I believe it was esm5m at this point) didn't seem entirely sure what it meant. I do understand the concern, though I don't plan to remove names from the list right now unless Bulbagarden requests it. As I've said before, I personally take the stance that the list exists solely for reference and archival purposes, and I don't specifically endorse any of its content. While I won't speak for Bulbagarden itself, I interpret the moderator notice to be to the same effect.

I do want to add that while I don't have solid proof, I would venture to guess that the submitter themselves may have been Seychellois or otherwise connected to the country. The "Republik Sesel" in "RepublikSeselShipping" would be a very simple typo for Repiblik Sesel, the local name for the country. It's hard to imagine someone would know this without having some connection to Seychelles or deliberately researching it, and it would be quite a bizarre name if it was really meant as some kind of racially insensitive joke.

The problem is that we don't know when the list will be updated again.
i have excellent news for you :p
 
To be clear, I can't list anything if you don't give me the characters in the pairing or a name you want them listed as. I would also like to please ask people to stay away from simply combining the names of characters and adding "Shipping" at the end, especially if we're just recycling the Japanese pairing name.
Got it. That was months ago, back when I wasn’t being as specific about stuff.
I’ll try to be more specific next time ^^;
 
Holy moly you are back ! I hope everything got sorted out on your end @Manqoba ! If not, do take the time to sort things out. Family matters more than anything in the world :bulbaLove:

I must admit that I might have given you a lot to work with when I submitted all those PLA ships back then. I've slowed down since, but no promises on whether or not there will be a surge such as this :lapras:
 
Holy moly you are back ! I hope everything got sorted out on your end @Manqoba ! If not, do take the time to sort things out. Family matters more than anything in the world :bulbaLove:

I must admit that I might have given you a lot to work with when I submitted all those PLA ships back then. I've slowed down since, but no promises on whether or not there will be a surge such as this :lapras:
I appreciate it, thank you!
Your submissions were actually easier to process than I expected (mostly because I stopped trying to thoroughly vet them lol). Most of them are rarepairs that I doubt there will be any conflicts with, and honestly, I'm more concerned about there being a completely made-up character in there than I was about most of these already being named. Side note, and not that I'd expect you to do this, but I'm trusting you not to try to slip any made-up characters past me and please don't try to. You'd probably be able to given the insane amount of unique characters in Pokemon, it would look very silly for everyone, and I wouldn't be too thrilled about it to say the least.

Hm. ArtificialParadise wasn't in the accepted or rejected lists...Is there an issue with it?
Sorry, I should've made a note of this. I haven't listed anything involving AI Sada/Turo because I'm not sure if the AI versions really constitute separate characters or not. Bulbapedia, for example, doesn't list them as such. It's not on the rejections list right now because it hasn't been outright rejected, but I'm leaning towards treating AI and non-AI as the same character and thus it would still be LakehouseShipping.
 
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