• Hey Trainers! Be sure to check out Corsola Beach, our newest section on the forums, in partnership with our friends at Corsola Cove! At the Beach, you can discuss the competitive side of the games, post your favorite Pokemon memes, and connect with other Pokemon creators!
  • Due to the recent changes with Twitter's API, it is no longer possible for Bulbagarden forum users to login via their Twitter account. If you signed up to Bulbagarden via Twitter and do not have another way to login, please contact us here with your Twitter username so that we can get you sorted.

Neverending Romance -- The Shipping List Revival

i normally don't submit only one ship at a time, but this is important enough for me to log right now on its own:

FuneralShipping - Allister & Edmund
 
Went hunting for some legends arceus ship names! I exclusively checked tumblr because that's all I really use and there was a lot I wanted to check. This will likely overlap with names people have already collected here, so I apologise for that

Here are some very frequent ones, most having over ten pages of posts in the tags, but all pretty populated:
AppraisalShipping - Adaman & Volo
ClanLeaderShipping - Adaman & Irida
CrazyTrainShipping - Ingo & Volo
HighlandsShipping - Ingo & Melli
(also sometimes, but less frequently, called CustomerServiceShipping)
SurveyShipping - Cyllene & Laventon
TrainwreckShipping - Emmet & Volo


Then some less common ones, ranging from a few pages to a few posts in the tags:
AdamantOrbShipping - Adaman & Melli (about three pages of content, but not uncommon)
DojoShipping - Ingo & Zisu (about three pages of content, but not exactly uncommon)
MilkyWayShipping - Cogita & Cyllene (three posts and I saw it mentioned by this name in a fourth. Also called MotherlyShipping by one person)
SecretSeaShipping - Iscan & Palina (barely two pages of content)
SkyFallenShipping - Akari & Rei (two pages of content)
SnowmobileShipping - Gaeric & Ingo (five posts by three people, also called PolarexpressShipping by two people and WinterTrainRideShipping by one. Overall inconsistent)
SpatialDawnShipping - Akari & Irida (three posts, but all by different people)
TrainSetShipping - Cyllene, Ingo & Laventon (this one's interesting, there's only one person making posts but they get a lot of asks and comments from different people engaging in the ship, so there is a bigger fanbase than just them. Also there is three whole pages of content)

Then some that I only saw used by a single person for each, but still worth mentioning:
CrazyTrainwreckShipping - Emmet, Ingo & Volo (tagged with trainwreck and crazytrain but not blank, so probably no incest. also I'm not quite sure how this one should be capitalised)
DevilsTrainShipping - Grimsley, Ingo & Volo
GalaxyMochiShipping - Beni & Kamado
PoisonHealShipping - Melli & Volo



Keep in mind that this is just usage of the ship name, not necessarily popularity of the ship, and exclusively on tumblr. I believe some of these are already taken, but I'm not here to decide what should or shouldn't go on the list, just share what I've found
Thank you very much for these names! Anything you can find on Tumblr is very helpful for me. I'll give all of these names some checks before they're officially added, but it looks like everything you listed as "very frequent" are free except for TrainwreckShipping which was already known. Some of the others do have conflicts and I'll have to search more extensively to get a better idea of how popular they really are. Thank you again! I really appreciate any names you can find with usage.

Note to self: Correct the errors in DojoShipping that have somehow lasted for 14 years. Remove SaffronDojoShipping. Figure out which Kyle is in AshConnectionShipping.

I was told this morning that you've revived the Neverending Romance list, and was going to look up some of the most prominent PLA ships that really should be added to this list, but thankfully it looks like 'i am just sitting here' has already taken care of that! (Funny enough, I was using pretty similar methodology to them too... Also... HAH! They mentioned me with the inconsistency for Gaeric & Ingo! I will laugh so much if my suggestion wins out because it's the only name not already claimed on the list!)

One ship that has become quite popular in the last few months that they didn't mention (because it isn't PLA, but rather happened because of the resurgence in Emmet and Ingo's popularity and that event in PokeMas) however is WhiteNoiseShipping - Emmet & Piers
I know that the ship name is already taken, but the fandom seems to have spoken and there's no way it's going to be changed now.

Also I feel like it goes mentioning that while Volo & Akari is popular enough that it probably warrants a spot on this list, the common name for that ship seems to be volokari. The most popular name that I can find that fits within the XShipping format for that one is WielderShipping. But only about 3 people use that one. I also saw one person using PlateShipping for them.
I'm always looking for more names with real-world usage, even if you're just reinforcing names others reported it's super helpful for me! The popularity for Emmet & Piers as WhiteNoiseShipping is absolutely overwhelming so I don't think there will be any issues adding the duplicate. Thank you for letting me know! I'll look into Volo & Akari as well and see. We might wait on it a bit longer.

(I do tend to give priority to names not on the list if usage if relatively similar so while in Gaeric & Ingo's case I'm probably gonna wait and see, there's a legitimate chance your name is the one that gets added)

It's more like a 'you all' thing...? I don't know who's doing the updating, only that the list is being updated again (unlike the old page that this list used to be on). I was only aware of the original shipping.bulbagarden page (which hasn't been updated since, what? 2016?) and not of this forum. The specifics of the 'you' does not matter.
also hi I'm who's doing the updating
 
StarCrossedLoversShipping - Cross & Risa

I thought of shipping them, but there's no ship name for the two, so I decided to name it myself. The name originates from Cross' name and the fact that Risa used to be a star athlete.
 
Hey! I’m new here so
How about
MorpekoShipping - James & Marnie (Anime)
- because they both own Morpeko’s
EatingPartnerShipping - Drizzle & Morpeko (Goh’s & James’s)
- because in the 70th episode Drizzle shares it food with Morpeko (and is generally nice to it)
AngstyTeenShipping - Pikachu & Raboot (Ash’s & Goh’s)
- because in many it shows Raboot is a typical teenager in a depressed frase and Pikachu usually has its episodes where he is literally mentally and physically depressed
RunIntoEachOtherShipping - James & Goh
- in episode 40 of journeys James and Goh run into each other and it has kind of been disgusted if they kissed or not
BonkShipping - Pikachu & Grookey (Ash’s & Goh’s)
- just because of the many times Grookey has hit (bonked) Pikachu on his head
IgnoringJealousyShipping - Pikachu & Riolu (Ash’s & Ash’s)
- name referring to the 30th episode where Pikachu is jealous of Riolu and Ash ignoring him
R&RShipping - Ash, Goh, Jessie & James
- referring to the 24th episode of journeys!

That’s all for now!
 
Last edited:
Perhaps I'd like to suggest around three possible ship names for the Galar protagonists pairing in PokéSPE:

DynameisterShipping [this one seems to be found on Tumblr, a few posts], CenturionShipping [soldier-inspired name related to sword and shield], or LegionnaireShipping [also another soldier-inspired name related to sword and shield] - Henry Sword/Soudo Tsurugi & Casey Shield/Shieldmilia (Schildemilia) Tate
 
Last edited:
PhotographierShipping - Trip & Alexa (XY)
SnootShipping - Montgomery & Moira

"Photographier" is French for "photography," and Trip is a photographer, while Alexa is related to another photographer and has a camera on her headphones.
 
Last edited:
So a ship that I've noticed gaining a fair bit of popularity lately due to the Subway Boss' resurgence in popularity is Emmet/Evelyn. This already has a ship name in SweetFrontierBrainShipping, however it seems that the fandom at large has rejected this name and prefers to refer to them as DoubleBattleShipping (I know that name is already taken, but the ship that it's presently for is pretty obscure and it really does seem that the fandom has spoken in terms of who they prefer to have this name). On Tumblr, the tag has about 1 and a half pages of posts (some 20 something posts) by a smattering of people, but I do know that more posts exist out there by some rather popular artists that for some reason aren't appearing in the tag (even though looking at the posts directly, they are tagged with it. Basically Tumblr's tagging system as always is broken. :p). Meanwhile SweetFrontierBrainShipping has a grand total of 3 posts in its tag on Tumblr. In fact, by all rights, this ship should be under this tag more, however some anonymous people on Tumblr have been a little... Insistent that due to this list existing that Emmet/Evelyn MUST NOT be referred to as DoubleBattleShipping. Some people out there may be afraid to post Emmet/Evelyn under DoubleBattleShipping out of fear of getting harassed by anons (and have therefore been referring to it as Emmelyn).

Honestly, maybe Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF) should be put under MultiBattleShipping as they are apparently Multi Battle partners, no Double Battles going on here, (Also surprisingly, that ship name hasn't been taken...) leaving DoubleBattleShipping open for Emmet/Evelyn... You know... The two Double Battle specialists... (Also no one refers to the Subway Bosses nor the Battle Chatelaines as Frontier Brains.)

Sorry if I went on for a bit too long here. But hopefully you find this information at least a little useful or interesting.
 
PhotographierShipping - Trip & Alexa (XY)
SnootShipping - Montgomery & Moira

"Photographier" is French for "photography," and Trip is a photographer, while Alexa is related to another photographer and has a camera on her headphones.
PhotographierShipping is incredibly close to PhotographerShipping, which also involves Trip. For this reason it likely won't be added, but if you have another name for it please go ahead.

LochNessShipping - Gloria & Nessa

My first time here and I'm surprised this doesn't seem to exist yet.
LochNessShipping is indeed already taken. Do you have another name for it?

So a ship that I've noticed gaining a fair bit of popularity lately due to the Subway Boss' resurgence in popularity is Emmet/Evelyn. This already has a ship name in SweetFrontierBrainShipping, however it seems that the fandom at large has rejected this name and prefers to refer to them as DoubleBattleShipping (I know that name is already taken, but the ship that it's presently for is pretty obscure and it really does seem that the fandom has spoken in terms of who they prefer to have this name). On Tumblr, the tag has about 1 and a half pages of posts (some 20 something posts) by a smattering of people, but I do know that more posts exist out there by some rather popular artists that for some reason aren't appearing in the tag (even though looking at the posts directly, they are tagged with it. Basically Tumblr's tagging system as always is broken. :p). Meanwhile SweetFrontierBrainShipping has a grand total of 3 posts in its tag on Tumblr. In fact, by all rights, this ship should be under this tag more, however some anonymous people on Tumblr have been a little... Insistent that due to this list existing that Emmet/Evelyn MUST NOT be referred to as DoubleBattleShipping. Some people out there may be afraid to post Emmet/Evelyn under DoubleBattleShipping out of fear of getting harassed by anons (and have therefore been referring to it as Emmelyn).

Honestly, maybe Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF) should be put under MultiBattleShipping as they are apparently Multi Battle partners, no Double Battles going on here, (Also surprisingly, that ship name hasn't been taken...) leaving DoubleBattleShipping open for Emmet/Evelyn... You know... The two Double Battle specialists... (Also no one refers to the Subway Bosses nor the Battle Chatelaines as Frontier Brains.)

Sorry if I went on for a bit too long here. But hopefully you find this information at least a little useful or interesting.
I've dug through it a bit and this is honestly the wildest thing I've seen out of the Pokemon shipping name fandom in memory. I do appreciate others filling people in about this thread and the list in general as many users may not be aware of the project, but I certainly ask that everyone remain respectful about it. The list has never existed to or claimed to force anyone into using a particular name, and there are several historical examples of an unlisted name catching on in a community despite another name being listed (eg, SeamountShipping).

If you're looking to me for input on this situation, the facts as I see them are that SweetFrontierBrainShipping - Emmet & Evelyn was listed around January 2014 and DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF) was listed around February 2015. DoubleBattleShipping was actually submitted in this post on Tumblr alongside two other Enta (CBF) pairings, and hilariously, "SweetFrontierBrainShipping - Emmet and the blue Battle Chatelaine (I forgot her name)" was submitted in this Tumblr post. Since that time, both names have had real-world usage for Emmet & Evelyn, with DoubleBattleShipping having notably more. There are a lot of different facts to consider in this case, including the barely-sufficient submission for SweetFrontierBrainShipping (though it was indeed accepted by my predecessor over 8 years ago, despite their uncertainty over who the submitter was referring to), and this post by the claimed namer of DoubleBattleShipping as Emmet & Evelyn expressing acceptance or resignation to SweetFrontierBrainShipping in the tags. I'm not aware of the list ever striking down a listed name with real-world usage except for particularly egregious cases involving the content of the name itself, and I'm not particularly eager to set that precedent. However, I will say that if SweetFrontierBrainShipping's original submission was brought to me today, I likely wouldn't accept it in that state, and if Emmet & Evelyn was unnamed today, I would likely accept DoubleBattleShipping for it.

In conclusion, I don't anticipate a repeal or change to DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF) in any case. The submission is completely proper regardless of anyone's feelings about the significance of the pairing or relevance of the name. I similarly don't anticipate a repeal for SweetFrontierBrainShipping - Emmet & Evelyn unless anyone can show a clear alternative for who "the blue Battle Chatelaine" could have referred to on December 25, 2013. As for DoubleBattleShipping as Emmet & Evelyn, there's a significant amount of past precedent to consider, and the best solution might be to save it as a recognized alternative like SeamountShipping was, should the untouchables return in the future. If anyone has any other proposals or input on this issue, I welcome it.

I will, however, say that in any case, I strongly prefer people using DoubleBattleShipping for Emmet & Evelyn over Emmelyn even if it's not strictly in accordance with the list. The Pokemon shipping community has nearly a 25-year-old naming tradition at this point and I don't want that to be eroded.
 
CutenessQuotientShipping - Parker & Jinny
I haven't seen any ship names for these two, so I gave them a ship name. This ship name is named after the episode the two of them appear in, where Parker looks out for Jinny because she is being bullied for owning a Feebas.
 
IntenseMassageShipping - James & Kiawe
- Based of episode 86 of Sun Of Moon when James & Kiawe give Charizard a massage that was way too intense
GirlOfMyDreamsShipping - Meowth & Chloe
- Based of episode 72 of journeys when Meowth would literally leave Team Rocket to be with Chloe he even dreams her in a wedding dress…

The rest are old ones I thought needed to be on the list (Mostly Team Rocket & Ash)
MirrorNaiveShipping - Ash (Mirror) & James (Mirror)
MirrorRedShipping - Ash (Mirror) & Jessie (Mirror)
MirrorKrazyShipping - Pikachu (Mirror) & Meowth (Mirror)
WhoKnewTheTwerpHadATwinShipping or
TwinTwerpsShipping - Ash, Ash (Mirror), James, Jessie & Meowth
WeMakeAGoodTeamShipping - Ash (King of Pokélantis), James & Jessie
ShutUpCryBabyShipping - Ash (Mirror) & James

I’ll try not to suggest anymore possible Team Rocket ships but it’s just they don’t really have many and yeah…. Nevermind….
 
I've dug through it a bit and this is honestly the wildest thing I've seen out of the Pokemon shipping name fandom in memory. I do appreciate others filling people in about this thread and the list in general as many users may not be aware of the project, but I certainly ask that everyone remain respectful about it. The list has never existed to or claimed to force anyone into using a particular name, and there are several historical examples of an unlisted name catching on in a community despite another name being listed (eg, SeamountShipping).

If you're looking to me for input on this situation, the facts as I see them are that SweetFrontierBrainShipping - Emmet & Evelyn was listed around January 2014 and DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF) was listed around February 2015. DoubleBattleShipping was actually submitted in this post on Tumblr alongside two other Enta (CBF) pairings, and hilariously, "SweetFrontierBrainShipping - Emmet and the blue Battle Chatelaine (I forgot her name)" was submitted in this Tumblr post. Since that time, both names have had real-world usage for Emmet & Evelyn, with DoubleBattleShipping having notably more. There are a lot of different facts to consider in this case, including the barely-sufficient submission for SweetFrontierBrainShipping (though it was indeed accepted by my predecessor over 8 years ago, despite their uncertainty over who the submitter was referring to), and this post by the claimed namer of DoubleBattleShipping as Emmet & Evelyn expressing acceptance or resignation to SweetFrontierBrainShipping in the tags. I'm not aware of the list ever striking down a listed name with real-world usage except for particularly egregious cases involving the content of the name itself, and I'm not particularly eager to set that precedent. However, I will say that if SweetFrontierBrainShipping's original submission was brought to me today, I likely wouldn't accept it in that state, and if Emmet & Evelyn was unnamed today, I would likely accept DoubleBattleShipping for it.

In conclusion, I don't anticipate a repeal or change to DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF) in any case. The submission is completely proper regardless of anyone's feelings about the significance of the pairing or relevance of the name. I similarly don't anticipate a repeal for SweetFrontierBrainShipping - Emmet & Evelyn unless anyone can show a clear alternative for who "the blue Battle Chatelaine" could have referred to on December 25, 2013. As for DoubleBattleShipping as Emmet & Evelyn, there's a significant amount of past precedent to consider, and the best solution might be to save it as a recognized alternative like SeamountShipping was, should the untouchables return in the future. If anyone has any other proposals or input on this issue, I welcome it.

I will, however, say that in any case, I strongly prefer people using DoubleBattleShipping for Emmet & Evelyn over Emmelyn even if it's not strictly in accordance with the list. The Pokemon shipping community has nearly a 25-year-old naming tradition at this point and I don't want that to be eroded.
I put a post out on Tumblr (as that's where I'm mostly active in fandom spaces anyway) asking if anyone else in the community at large has any other proposals or input on this whole issue. If anyone has any interesting input or suggestions, I'll be sure to report back here with them, but who knows if anything's going to actually happen over there. (But HO BOY! I did not expect such a negative first series of reactions to that post! It's not like this is a very big deal! It's just shipping name semantics! It's pretty much just a couple of clerical issues going on here, really!)

After taking on your input and thinking through it a bit, personally I think that the best solutions would rely on the community surrounding this ship first and foremost. After hearing your reasoning, I can completely understand your decision to not change DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF). But as for Emmet & Evelyn's ship name... Ultimately I just don't think that SweetFrontierBrainShipping as a name is going to win out. And given that the submission was barely-sufficient and you would not have accepted it today if it were given to you in that state, I think that in the long run that it should perhaps eventually be done away with altogether (or perhaps put on some sort of Untouchables list revival as you suggested before). It really feels like people as a whole just don't like the name very much and that not even the person who submitted it was committed to it. From how people talk about it in their posts and tags, people seem to use "SweetFrontierBrainShipping" in their tags primarily for visibility's sake and out of obligation to this list. And just... Come on! This is a shipping list! There's no reason to take it too seriously! Shipping is supposed to be fun! And so holding to this name and people continuing to use it as a tag out of obligation and not because they actually like the name (while they very much do like the ship) feels like it goes against the spirit of this whole thing!
As for what the ship name would change to I think would depend on the community. I think that the real-world usage precedent is a very good one. It helps to maximize utility for this list as it assists in both people trying to find content for these ships that they enjoy, or giving the reader an easy to access and hopefully more or less universal term to blacklist without forcing the person to have to expose themselves to content that they actively want to avoid, but are trying to find the correct terms for.
As it presently stands, I just don't think that there is enough usage of DoubleBattleShipping with Emmet & Evelyn to justify doing away with SweetFrontierBrainShipping altogether yet. If there were some 100 posts in the tag on Tumblr for it, then maybe. But at 20 some posts, I just don't think that's enough. (Which endlessly frustrates me because maybe there would be enough posts in the tag to warrant this change if people applied this tag consistently to their posts and other people weren't insisting that you can't use DoubleBattleShipping for Emmet & Evelyn, thus scattering the tags to the winds even more!)
Another idea that I think could work would be if the community who ships these two decided to change the ship name to something that isn't already taken. Again, whoever submitted that name didn't really seem to be committed to the ship as they couldn't even be bothered to look up, "The Blue Battle Chatelaine"s name. And since there is now a somewhat active community surrounding the ship, they should be allowed to give the pairing a name that they actually like and will use. However given the responses I've gotten to my Tumblr post, this seems unlikely, sadly enough. (Shame because I think that it would make for a decent compromise. The one fan of Enta & Mitsuki gets to keep their ship name, the Emmet & Evelyn fans get a ship name that they like, and it's unlikely that the person who submitted SweetFrontierBrainShipping would put up a fuss. And even if they do, their submission was barely passable in the first place, and if they wanted it to stick, then they should have bothered to look up Evelyn's name!)

So while I don't like admitting it, for now I kinda think that the best solution is to just... Wait. Keep SweetFrontierBrainShipping as is for now until either DoubleBattleShipping comes out on top as the unquestioningly dominant name for this ship (at which point it shares the name with Enta & Mitsuki), or for the Emmet & Evelyn shipping community to decide on another name. And I personally find this frustrating because it could take years for DoubleBattleShipping to come out on top and I think that this ship deserves a better name than what it currently has. It just sucks for this ship that has recently been gaining popularity like this to have a name that makes people seeing it think, "Emmet and Evelyn aren't Frontier Brains...?" and not the "Oh hell yeah! This ship has such a great name!" like DoubleBattleShipping evokes in the people.

But those are just my thoughts on this.
 
IgneousShipping - Kiawe & Brock
- based on the amount of screen time these too have together! (Plus their also cute)
 
Last edited:
IgneousShipping - Kiawe & Brock
- based on the amount of screen time these too have together! (Plus their also cute)
Already LavaRockShipping.

Note to self: Check possible typo for IgneouShipping - Steven Stone & himself

NymphaeaShipping - Chloe & Misty
SparkedShipping - Damian & Ritchie
Chloe & Misty will need more research and possibly more time as it's between two of Ash's traveling companions.

I put a post out on Tumblr (as that's where I'm mostly active in fandom spaces anyway) asking if anyone else in the community at large has any other proposals or input on this whole issue. If anyone has any interesting input or suggestions, I'll be sure to report back here with them, but who knows if anything's going to actually happen over there. (But HO BOY! I did not expect such a negative first series of reactions to that post! It's not like this is a very big deal! It's just shipping name semantics! It's pretty much just a couple of clerical issues going on here, really!)

After taking on your input and thinking through it a bit, personally I think that the best solutions would rely on the community surrounding this ship first and foremost. After hearing your reasoning, I can completely understand your decision to not change DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF). But as for Emmet & Evelyn's ship name... Ultimately I just don't think that SweetFrontierBrainShipping as a name is going to win out. And given that the submission was barely-sufficient and you would not have accepted it today if it were given to you in that state, I think that in the long run that it should perhaps eventually be done away with altogether (or perhaps put on some sort of Untouchables list revival as you suggested before). It really feels like people as a whole just don't like the name very much and that not even the person who submitted it was committed to it. From how people talk about it in their posts and tags, people seem to use "SweetFrontierBrainShipping" in their tags primarily for visibility's sake and out of obligation to this list. And just... Come on! This is a shipping list! There's no reason to take it too seriously! Shipping is supposed to be fun! And so holding to this name and people continuing to use it as a tag out of obligation and not because they actually like the name (while they very much do like the ship) feels like it goes against the spirit of this whole thing!
As for what the ship name would change to I think would depend on the community. I think that the real-world usage precedent is a very good one. It helps to maximize utility for this list as it assists in both people trying to find content for these ships that they enjoy, or giving the reader an easy to access and hopefully more or less universal term to blacklist without forcing the person to have to expose themselves to content that they actively want to avoid, but are trying to find the correct terms for.
As it presently stands, I just don't think that there is enough usage of DoubleBattleShipping with Emmet & Evelyn to justify doing away with SweetFrontierBrainShipping altogether yet. If there were some 100 posts in the tag on Tumblr for it, then maybe. But at 20 some posts, I just don't think that's enough. (Which endlessly frustrates me because maybe there would be enough posts in the tag to warrant this change if people applied this tag consistently to their posts and other people weren't insisting that you can't use DoubleBattleShipping for Emmet & Evelyn, thus scattering the tags to the winds even more!)
Another idea that I think could work would be if the community who ships these two decided to change the ship name to something that isn't already taken. Again, whoever submitted that name didn't really seem to be committed to the ship as they couldn't even be bothered to look up, "The Blue Battle Chatelaine"s name. And since there is now a somewhat active community surrounding the ship, they should be allowed to give the pairing a name that they actually like and will use. However given the responses I've gotten to my Tumblr post, this seems unlikely, sadly enough. (Shame because I think that it would make for a decent compromise. The one fan of Enta & Mitsuki gets to keep their ship name, the Emmet & Evelyn fans get a ship name that they like, and it's unlikely that the person who submitted SweetFrontierBrainShipping would put up a fuss. And even if they do, their submission was barely passable in the first place, and if they wanted it to stick, then they should have bothered to look up Evelyn's name!)

So while I don't like admitting it, for now I kinda think that the best solution is to just... Wait. Keep SweetFrontierBrainShipping as is for now until either DoubleBattleShipping comes out on top as the unquestioningly dominant name for this ship (at which point it shares the name with Enta & Mitsuki), or for the Emmet & Evelyn shipping community to decide on another name. And I personally find this frustrating because it could take years for DoubleBattleShipping to come out on top and I think that this ship deserves a better name than what it currently has. It just sucks for this ship that has recently been gaining popularity like this to have a name that makes people seeing it think, "Emmet and Evelyn aren't Frontier Brains...?" and not the "Oh hell yeah! This ship has such a great name!" like DoubleBattleShipping evokes in the people.

But those are just my thoughts on this.
I do agree that more time is needed for this to settle and I'm definitely not going to make a decision on this right now. I'll revisit this issue at the next update and either make some sort of change, decline a change, or defer again.
 
After taking on your input and thinking through it a bit, personally I think that the best solutions would rely on the community surrounding this ship first and foremost. After hearing your reasoning, I can completely understand your decision to not change DoubleBattleShipping - Enta (CBF) & Mitsuki (CBF). But as for Emmet & Evelyn's ship name... Ultimately I just don't think that SweetFrontierBrainShipping as a name is going to win out. And given that the submission was barely-sufficient and you would not have accepted it today if it were given to you in that state, I think that in the long run that it should perhaps eventually be done away with altogether (or perhaps put on some sort of Untouchables list revival as you suggested before). It really feels like people as a whole just don't like the name very much and that not even the person who submitted it was committed to it. From how people talk about it in their posts and tags, people seem to use "SweetFrontierBrainShipping" in their tags primarily for visibility's sake and out of obligation to this list. And just... Come on! This is a shipping list! There's no reason to take it too seriously! Shipping is supposed to be fun! And so holding to this name and people continuing to use it as a tag out of obligation and not because they actually like the name (while they very much do like the ship) feels like it goes against the spirit of this whole thing!
As for what the ship name would change to I think would depend on the community. I think that the real-world usage precedent is a very good one. It helps to maximize utility for this list as it assists in both people trying to find content for these ships that they enjoy, or giving the reader an easy to access and hopefully more or less universal term to blacklist without forcing the person to have to expose themselves to content that they actively want to avoid, but are trying to find the correct terms for.
As it presently stands, I just don't think that there is enough usage of DoubleBattleShipping with Emmet & Evelyn to justify doing away with SweetFrontierBrainShipping altogether yet. If there were some 100 posts in the tag on Tumblr for it, then maybe. But at 20 some posts, I just don't think that's enough. (Which endlessly frustrates me because maybe there would be enough posts in the tag to warrant this change if people applied this tag consistently to their posts and other people weren't insisting that you can't use DoubleBattleShipping for Emmet & Evelyn, thus scattering the tags to the winds even more!)
Another idea that I think could work would be if the community who ships these two decided to change the ship name to something that isn't already taken. Again, whoever submitted that name didn't really seem to be committed to the ship as they couldn't even be bothered to look up, "The Blue Battle Chatelaine"s name. And since there is now a somewhat active community surrounding the ship, they should be allowed to give the pairing a name that they actually like and will use. However given the responses I've gotten to my Tumblr post, this seems unlikely, sadly enough. (Shame because I think that it would make for a decent compromise. The one fan of Enta & Mitsuki gets to keep their ship name, the Emmet & Evelyn fans get a ship name that they like, and it's unlikely that the person who submitted SweetFrontierBrainShipping would put up a fuss. And even if they do, their submission was barely passable in the first place, and if they wanted it to stick, then they should have bothered to look up Evelyn's name!)
If I may offer my opinion on this issue: Would there be a way to document every name used for a ship? On the one hand, I worry that people would abuse the system, but on the other hand, I think that issue could be solved by emphasizing the primary purpose of having a ship list: to make it easier for people to find content of ships they like and to make it easier to blacklist content of ships they don't. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a shipping community to come up with a ton of names for one ship; if anything, that just confuses and decentralizes shipping communities. I think also, like you mentioned, prioritising input from the shippers of a ship could also be very helpful. Using only one name as the One True Name for a ship already excludes, for example, Japanese ship names (MikuNagi, DaiMiku, daburuchannpionn, etc.), and some names are just more common than what's listed on the Shipping List. The Shipping List is a database rather than a contest over who's the fastest at naming a ship.

I might be a hypocrite but in my defense I am a multishipping disaster who will ship Wallace with almost any other adult
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom