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New Pokémon Discussion

Which flying pokemon in B/W do you prefer?

  • Unfezant

    Votes: 9 4.9%
  • Swoobat

    Votes: 15 8.2%
  • Sigllyph

    Votes: 18 9.9%
  • Archeops

    Votes: 38 20.9%
  • Swanna

    Votes: 14 7.7%
  • Braviary

    Votes: 61 33.5%
  • Mandibuzz

    Votes: 7 3.8%
  • Pfffft, i'll use a legendary.

    Votes: 8 4.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 12 6.6%

  • Total voters
    182
  • Poll closed .

The Outrage

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How is me saying that Rankurusus body is most likely a nucleus ridiculous? It seems more ridiculous to think its a homunculus.
Other than the name which points to the obvious theme they were going for, the fact that it looks like a body rather than a mere orb like a nucleus. no you're right. A homunculus is such a far-fetched idea.

Except its much less obvious....Your point is?

Saying its based on a specific cell and then giving such a broad category which doesn't really clear anything up on its origin is my point, since being a cell is the most apparent feature of the Pokemon. Here's a list on the many different kinds of cells in a human. It doesn't really matter whether it was a Eukaryotic or Prokaryotic cell since the inspiration itself was merely that it was a cell.

So I was wrong, big deal. That still dosnt make a difference. My point was that prokaryote cells didnt have some giant organelle where genetic material was stored.

And my point was why bother giving basic cell lessons and getting it wrong?

well, real life insects can be super huge too, depending ont he amount of oxygen in the atmosphere, note that in the carboniferous era, insects were massive. Like meganuerna, the giant dragonfly, which grew as large as some eagles today.
Yes, and I specifically mentioned how modern-day insects that inspired Pokemon are massive in size compared to their real-world counterparts. We can even look at size-comparisons between species and compare the size ratios of their real world counterparts and they probably wont be accurate.

This doesn't cancel out my point that saying Ranculus is a Eukaryotic cell because its "big" doesn't hold any ground, especially when we have no other "Cell" Pokemon to compare it to.
 
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LETS DROP THE SUBJECT.

I think Rankurusu is an eukaryotic cell with a nucleus. You think its just some random cell with a magic sperm-monster-thing inside. We both interpret it different ways, so its pretty much pointless to argue about it. Besides, it most likely draws inspiration from both.

This doesn't cancel out my point that saying Ranculus is a Eukaryotic cell because its "big" doesn't hold any ground, especially when we have no other "Cell" Pokemon to compare it to.
Id like to point out that Ditto could be a cell.

Edit: I always seems to be cursed with starting a new page....
 
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I am sorry if I am being impatient but can somebody please answer my questions about Zoroark? It would be much appreciated.
 

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LETS DROP THE SUBJECT.

I think Rankurusu is an eukaryotic cell with a nucleus. You think its just some random cell with a magic sperm-monster-thing inside. We both interpret it different ways, so its pretty much pointless to argue about it. Besides, it most likely draws inspiration from both.

I like how unbiased that statement is. I think its based on the concept of a Homunculus, you think its based on a Eukaryotic cell with a humanoid-shaped nucleus that has small arms, legs, eyes and a mouth that just so happens to be in the same shape as that weird shape on the head of this traditional picture of a homunculus.

Or you know, you could have just said "I think it looked like a Eukaryotic cell, you think its a Homunculus.
Id like to point out that Ditto could be a cell.

Let's drop it, but I'll continue to talk right? That would be an awesome argument point if canon didn't contradict you already since Ditto's been confirmed to "rearrange its cell structure" to transform. If anythng, its just a bunch of undifferentiated stem cells which, through the power of Pokemon logic, can differentiate, multiply, go through cell death and undifferentiate every time it transforms and transforms back.

Besides, on first glance, it looks like play-doh and acts like play-doh considering that its shape can be reformed.

Its nothing like Ranculus, which on first glance, it and its evolutions look like cells.
 

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....OK, sorry. I never said that the thing in the middle, which I consider to be a nucleus, didnt look like a homunculus. I think it functions as a nucleus, but has the appearance of a homunculus. So basically, its inspired by both.

I never intended Ditto to actually drag out this stupid argument further. I was just pointing out the fact that Hey, there is another Pokemon that looks kinda like a cell, in case you forgot. I expected your answer to be something like Oh yeah, I forgot about Ditto. I guess it does look kinda like a cell. And I forgot that it rearranged its cellular structure to transform, I thought that it could actually be one giant cell.
 

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Just to ask, how far into the game can you catch Zoroark? do you need all three shiny beasts or just one to catch it? And do you need to wait for Zoroark to drop it's illusion before you can catch it?

You have to arrive in the fourth Gym city (Raimon City) in order to get Zoroark. You only need one Beast though. Just take it east towards the route there and search for a forest that opens up around that area and you should find some lady in a trailer who attacks you. That's Zoroark.

I believe you need to attack it once for it's illusion to drop and then you may catch it. One hit is all it takes from what I saw during my battle against it. I love Zoroark and Zorua, so I was happy that I finally managed to encounter them :]
 
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You have to arrive in the fourth Gym city (Raimon City) in order to get Zoroark. You only need one Beast though. Just take it east towards the route there and search for a forest that opens up around that area and you should find some lady in a trailer who attacks you. That's Zoroark.

I believe you need to attack it once for it's illusion to drop and then you may catch it. One hit is all it takes from what I saw during my battle against it. I love Zoroark and Zorua, so I was happy that I finally managed to encounter them :]

Thank you, so you dont need to beat the pokemon league before you catch it?
 

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Thank you, so you dont need to beat the pokemon league before you catch it?

Nope. I battled Zoroark right before I got the sixth Isshu badge so you don't have to beat the Elite Four just to challenge it to a battle.
 

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so Meguroko is Meguroco and Miruhoggu is Miruhog...kinda expected that...

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So wait? I thought the official romanization was Zoroa. Now it's back to Zorua?
 

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hmm?

It was always Zorua

they just pronounce it Zoroa
 

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hmm?

It was always Zorua

they just pronounce it Zoroa

Exactly. They've been calling it Zorua since around the time it was revealed along with Zoroark. I chose this username based on that romanization haha. As for Miruhoggu being Miruhog; that was pretty much expected too. I've seen Japanese fans calling it Miruhog recently since that's how it's been properly romanized as.
 

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Emboar looks like it will be really good. It can switch in on something it beats and Nitro Charge on the switch and then start sweeping.
 

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@Shibirudon - Im actually quiet curious about where will they live. Considering they have the levitate ability, I doubt they live in water. But it would be ridiculous if they would just float in mid-air. :S

I personally think they don't need another type. Just because they are some kind of fish they have to be water? Then explain to me why exactly is Shuckle Bug type? And no, I dont want you to answer that.

I also wanted to discuss this:
Cocoon Pokemon usually don't have much attacks. Usually just Harden or Tackle. However, Hoiiga (the Bug/Poison cocoon of the gen) has even Double-Edge, as well as Rollout, Hard roller, Rock climb and Poison tail. My question is... why?
The other cocoon, the Grass/Bug one, has only Bug bite, Grasswhistle, String shot, Tackle and Protect. Weird enough.
 

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maybe Game Freak is tired of the worthless coccoon that only knows Tackle, Stringshot, Poison Sting and Harden, it gets a little old after a while. I think they tried hard to give the bugs a new reputation.
 

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I think "new reputation" might be too much of a strong word, maybe more like an improvement for the bug type in general. There are still a lot of worthless bug types out there, but I guess game freak wanted to do something different.
 
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