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New Pokémon Discussion

Which flying pokemon in B/W do you prefer?

  • Unfezant

    Votes: 9 4.9%
  • Swoobat

    Votes: 15 8.2%
  • Sigllyph

    Votes: 18 9.9%
  • Archeops

    Votes: 38 20.9%
  • Swanna

    Votes: 14 7.7%
  • Braviary

    Votes: 61 33.5%
  • Mandibuzz

    Votes: 7 3.8%
  • Pfffft, i'll use a legendary.

    Votes: 8 4.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 12 6.6%

  • Total voters
    182
  • Poll closed .

Sanic Hegehog

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Only physical attack that doesn't absolutely suck that it gets is Return. It gets Giga Impact, but...eh.

Actually Gear Saucer has a base 50 attack (75 with STAB), meaning it will hit twice with roughly the same power as a STAB'd Meteor Mash but with the added bonus of ruining subs.

So that's two good moves it has. Still insulting that it doesn't learn much though.
 

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What's so annoying about Pendra? I'm not questioning it, I'd just really like to know. It's stats look ok but nothing too special. Below Avg HP and SpD, Good Attack and Def, High Speed. Poison Point and Swarm are some pretty handy abilities.

Good Set looks to be...

Mega Horn (180 power with stab)
Poison Jab (120 power with stab)
Earthquake (100 power)
Toxic/Double Edge

Wish it had Sword's Dance to up the attack... But I really like this poke/this set. It's my favorite design for a 3 stage bug. It's shiny sprite is epic, and I like how even the 'early' bugs have good stats this time around.

By the way, Zebraiku just doesn't take hits well... Not as bad as my Warubiru, but Waru evolves... So I ran into a Shibishirasu in Electric Rock cave and caught it. I'm gonna stick it out with my levitating friend, big pay off. I THINK its the first electric type that evolves twice in the same gen it was introduced.

look at his moveset again. His Hard Roller has 65 power and also a 30% flinch rate. While poison isn't a great offensive typing it is a excellent Defensive Typing. Pendra Bug/Poison means his weak to only Earth and Psychic.
 

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As far as the design goes, I'm not a fan of Enbouh. To me, it seems to be a recycled Rhyperior conceptualization (except for its legs and feet).

With the except of its defenses, its stats aren't a issue.

Enbouh's low speed is not so much of a problem; speed only makes the difference as far as defending goes. Its HP is very high but without a strong foundation to stand on, Enbouh cannot last more than a few turns in a battle. Enbouh has several weaknesses (especially the common types Ground, Water, and Psychic). In addition, its most powerful moves that it can learn through level-up are all recoil moves.

Attacks like Flare Blitz, Head Smash, and Wild Bolt that inflict recoil moves are powerful but at the same time risky. This is especially true for a pokemon with lots of weaknesses, low speed (very rarely will it ever attack first), and very low defenses.

Even the Dream World-exclusive ability Reckless doesn't help. Reckless increases the damage done through these attacks, but also the amount of recoil. Rock Head would have made it a total beast though.

Enbouh's vast movepool allows you to compensate for the recoil moves. Head Smash can be easily replaced by Stone Edge. Since Enbouh is very heavy (150 kg, roughly 330 pounds), Heat Stamp will guarantee a lot of damage for smaller pokemon. In competitive battling, however, most pokemon that will fight up against Enbouh will at least be half as heavy as it is (therefore the move's base power will be 60 instead).

Enbouh isn't really terrible; its high attacking stats, HP, and access to a lot of powerful TMs (both physical and special) is balanced out by low defenses, speed, and recoil moves. Trick Room teams might find a niche for the pokemon somewhere (seeing as it is rarely able to survive and attack in normal circumstances).

On another note, the Dream World artworks for each of these pokemon look amazing.
My beef with this. The Defensive stats, are only SLIGHTLY lower, and not exactly low enough to be worth complaining. It would be a complaint if he had the same HP as Blaziken and Infernape, but with a base HP of 110 he lasts alot longer than the former two, all for what could've been speed now goes into a bulky giant with monstrous attack. And in terms of physical power, I'd say STAB for Hammer Arm is enough to destroy (Even if it lowers speed it's not like it's outspeeding anything anyways, so there's really no point in worrying about that).
 

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Though I will say this, given Arceus here's what I expected from the Legendaries this generation:

Zekrom: Dark/Steel (Prior to Dragon Type reveal) or Dark/Dragon (Prior to Electric type leak. Funny how we do get both type combos anyways though) with a base stat total of 720.
Reshiram: Psychic/Steel (Prior to Dragon Type reveal) or Psychic/Dragon (Prior to Fire type reveal) also with a base stat total of 720.
Third Version Mascot (Before I knew it was Kyurem): Dragon/Normal, Dragon/Fighting, or Dragon/Poison is what I thought for it's type. Also with a base stat total of 720.
Standard trios: All with BST's of 600 instead of 580.
Final Pokemon in the National Dex as of B/W: Base stat total higher than 720 to surpass Arceus, though I never tried to guess it's type.

When all the Legends were revealed I was rather disappointed about the fact NOBODY went above a BST of 680, and that Reshi and Zek were the only ones with that BST, as everyother Legend was atleast 20 points lower. Hopefully that changes in Gray or the R/S remakes.
 

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When all the Legends were revealed I was rather disappointed about the fact NOBODY went above a BST of 680, and that Reshi and Zek were the only ones with that BST, as everyother Legend was atleast 20 points lower. Hopefully that changes in Gray or the R/S remakes.

The point isn't to keep pushing the BST higher and higher :p There's really no need for that. Arceus is the roof. The top of the building. If anything is EVER going to top Arceus' BST, it'll have to have a darn good reason. In the meantime, there is plenty of use for things that don't have gigantic stats.
 

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The point isn't to keep pushing the BST higher and higher :p There's really no need for that. Arceus is the roof. The top of the building. If anything is EVER going to top Arceus' BST, it'll have to have a darn good reason. In the meantime, there is plenty of use for things that don't have gigantic stats.

Yes but Yin and Yang are technically supposed to be higher than Arceus. x-x
 

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Yin and Yang are not superior to any god. It's basically a concept of differences and similarities, not a status of a god or anything.
 

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Yin and Yang are not superior to any god. It's basically a concept of differences and similarities, not a status of a god or anything.

Didn't one of the looking forward announcements at Bulbanews say something about them surpassing god?
 

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I'd just like to say that I'm calling Kyurem getting another forme in the third version, with a stat total equalling or surpassing Reshiram's and Zekrom's.

And I agree that nothing should surpass Arceus's stat total. I wouldn't mind if something came out that matched it, though.
 

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I hope Kyurem doesn't get an alternate form. I like his design the way it is and I think an alternate form would make it worse.
 

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If Kyurem gets another form, hopefully it's Offensive and Defensive are not swapped around. Ice and Dragon together is a great offensive typing but absolutely horrible defensively and being defensively oriented would be very insulting and wasted.
 

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Ice and Dragon together is actually a pretty bad offensive typing. Best for an alternate from would be to maybe put some of the attack stat into speed and make it very fast. Better ability and signature move wouldn't hurt either.
 

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True. If they added an extra 20 points to it's speed it wouldn't be so bad. Base 115 speed is pretty good.
 

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It actually barks!

Has anyone used a Muurando yet? My Haderia recently evolved, and I discovered that Muurando's cry consists of a growl, then an actual barking sound! I think that's awesome.
 

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Re: It actually barks!

Has anyone used a Muurando yet? My Haderia recently evolved, and I discovered that Muurando's cry consists of a growl, then an actual barking sound! I think that's awesome.

I have, but isn't this suited to New Pokemon discussion...?

If not, we could turn this into a Pokemon cries thread

Anyway, back to what you were saying:
I love that it actually barks
 
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