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Non-Story Pokémon SwSh Datamine Thread (SPOILER WARNING, It's Finally Here!)

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CosmicBlaine said:
So what I am going to assume is due to a lack of old legendaries, we will get them in mystery gifts, along with other pokemon (Cough Cough Ash Greninja and probably like 50,000 Pikachus). But damn the snap might ruin some in-game battling teams.
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Hopefully not. Ash-Greninja should stay in Gen VII where it belongs (because he was forced to be there).
 
Smogon worked on those stats, no pokèmon is final, expecally Grimmsnarl.
Grimmsnarl:
Hp: 90
Atk: 110
Def: 70
SpA: 90
Spd: 80
Spe: 60

Dracozolt:
Hp: 80-95
Atk: 95-110
Def: 90-105
SpA: 80-95
Spd: 70-85
Spe: 60-75

Arctozolt:
Hp: 90-105
Atk: 100-115
Def: 75-90
SpA: 75-90
Spd: 80-95
Spe: 50-65

Dracovish:
Hp: 90-105
Atk: 85-100
Def: 100-115
SpA: 55-70
Spd: 70-85
Spe: 75-90

Arctovish:
Hp: 85-100
Atk: 90-105
Def: 100-115
SpA: 75-90
Spd: 90-105
Spe: 45-60
 
ice types being ultra slow again? check!!! The Moth has to be ultra fat pleaaase!!!
 
Just want to confirm, is Appletun really the evolution of Flapple or a branch evo of Applin? Heard some rumors that it's branching evo.

Also Flapple looks already complete and I kinda want them to stay like that.
 
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Here's some of the stats I seen

The first half of the stats from the Battle Tower rental screens, with the latter been calculated by Reddit, Smogon and/or GameFAQs users:

Falinks (assuming EV spread of 4/252/0/0/0/252):
65/100/100/70/60/75
TOTAL: 470

Duraludon (assuming EVs 252/0/0/4/0/252):
70/95/115/120/50/85
TOTAL: 535

Grimmsnarl (assuming EVs 252/252/0/0/0/4):
95/120/65/95/75/60
TOTAL: 510

Rillaboom (assuming EVs 252/252/4/0/0/0):
100/125/90/60/70/85
TOTAL: 530

Cinderace (assuming EVs 0/252/4/0/0/252):
80/116/75/65/75/119
TOTAL: 530

Inteleon (assuming EVs 0/0/4/252/0/252):
70/85/65/125/65/120
TOTAL: 530

Dragapult (assuming EVs 0/252/0/4/0/252)
88/120/75/100/75/142
TOTAL: 600

Barraskewda (assuming EVs 4/252/0/0/0/252)
61/123/60/60/50/136
TOTAL: 490

Copperajah (assuming EVs 252/252/0/0/4/0)
122/130/70/80/68/30
TOTAL: 500
If the Speed IV is 0 (since this is meant to be a Trick Room team), then it's
122/130/70/80/68/45
TOTAL: 515

Hatterene (assuming EVs 252/0/4/252/0/0)
57/90/95/136/103/29
TOTAL: 510
If the Speed IV is 0, then
57/90/95/136/103/44
TOTAL: 525

Drednaw:
90/120/90/50/70/80
TOTAL: 500

Arctozolt:
100/110/90/90/90/60
TOTAL: 540

Dracovish:
100/90/110/60/90/90
TOTAL: 540

Arctovish:
100/90/110/90/90/60
TOTAL: 540

Dracozolt:
100/110/90/90/90/60
TOTAL: 540

Centiskorch:
95/105/70/90/95/90
TOTAL: 545

Frosmoth:
70/60/70/125/100/95
TOTAL: 520

Corviknight
100/90/110/55/85/80
TOTAL: TBC
 
Just two Pokemon (Falinks and Barraskewda) on this list have a BST lower than 500, and one of these has a move that boosts all stats (with a drawback, but still).

I am not impressed unless a chunk of old Pokemon have been boosted. If you're going to remove 60% of the Pokemon, at least make the metagame reasonably balanced.
 
If you produce Pokemon that make the player wonder if it's immoral to let them live, as they must be in total agony, you're probably doing it wrong.
 
PocketMonster said:
There are so many pokemon that I really really like!! It is gonna be hard to boil down to a team and I will more than likely just switch things out as I go through the story. There are some pokemon I will absolutely no matter what use however and I honestly think my favorite of this new generation is Coalossal and Toxtricity (yellow one not sure how the form thing works yet so clarifying!). Also Coalossal's G-Max is amazing from what we can see. The whole design hasn't been shown though. I don't think I can pick a favoriate G-Max form yet! So many are awesome (most of them!). I can tell you Kingler is one of the first to pop in my mind! Love the bubble beard face.

I have to say my favorite Galarian form has to be between Ponyta and Weezing. Galarian Evo Purrserker but Runerigus follows close behind.

The Fossil pokemon were pretty disappointing to me though. Those are pokemon I generally look forward too because they are usually really creative. Well, I can't say these new ones aren't creative, I just don't care for them. The Idea of mismatched fossils were kinda cool, but I wish they made the "Fusions" flow together a little better. There is one fossil I am ok with. I don't dislike it but I probably won't pick it before other pokemon in the new generation and that is Arctozolt. I like the idea of a skinny yellow dino with snow stuck onto his body and that is what he looks like to me. It is cute. His typing is unique at least so I will try him out but he won't be my main team.

The Starter pokemon I am picking Grookey. I like his last evolution best. Rillaboom I feel is well designed. I think I would have liked it better if the drum was on its body or was able to be in its hands though. But It is a great pokemon. I like Cinderace now that we have a bigger and clear picture of him. I was concerned about it looking creepy in the face, but it doesn't to me. It reminds me of a Saiyan though. I guess it is the hair and ears. Intelleon was disappointing honestly. I find it kinda creepy looking. The body proportions are awkward being all noodle-y with big hands and feet. I probably make it sound worse than what it is, but that is my perspective honestly. I also feel like it lost its chameleon look/feel.

Some pokemon that really stick out to me of interest
Copperajah, Dubwool, Dragapult, Bolthund, Alcremie blueberry beige, Theivul, Hatterene, Corviknight, Frosmoth, Zamazenta (of course I am getting Shield Version!)

Side notes,

-I do have to say I adore Appletun. too cute! ( I know some of you don't like him for whatever reason haha )
-Grimmsnarl I have been back and forth on this pokemon. I still wish it got wings. I think it would be better with wings haha. I don't like the shoulder hair but beyond that I do like it. The face reminds me of a bat which I find cool. I definitely prefer the Shiny one though, but I do like it as it is.
-I absolutely hate the centipede pokemon, but that is just because I can't stand those bugs. AT ALL. Otherwise it is technically well designed and I am sure it will have alot of fans.
-There are pokemon I really don't like but I don't see the point on elaborating on those honestly.
-There are some pokemon I feel are kinda over looked and one of those that I really like is Stonjourner. It is cute and I haven't seen anyone really say anything about it honestly. It would have been nice if it got an evolution though. There is potential there. Greedent is another one over looked one that I like. It is cute happy and chubby. Gossifluer is another. it is just pretty. Barraskweda, but for some reason I often like ugly fish pokemon like Relicanth and Basculin.
  • I know people have picked on Rookiedee & Corvisquire but Jays are part of the same family as Ravens and Crows. And birds have those kind of markings around their eyeballs all the time but you usually see it in song birds. I love this line of evolution and they did a great job.
  • I love the whole RolyColy Evolution family. Yes even Karcoal.
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I honestly didn't feel a lot of this generation's Pokemon designs at first, but a lot of them have grown on me. My early favorites are Frosmoth, Centiskorch, Grimmsnarl, Toxtricity, Grapploct, Dragapult and Corviknight. Starters are also really good IMO, but considering how good the last two generations of starters were, I'm not surprised. The Galarian forms and evos are all pretty great, too. Yes, even Stunfisk, Mr. Mime and Mr. Rime; y'all are just mean.

I'm pretty disappointed by Rolycoly's evos, though. And Eiscue is just... Ugh. I also dislike Chewtle, but at least Drednaw looks pretty cool.

I think Frosmoth, Centiskorch, Dragapult and Grimmsnarl are the big winners this gen for me. While I'll always love Volcarona, and I'm disappointed it's been Thanos snapped, I've wanted a Bug/Ice-type moth for god knows how long, and it is easily the mothiest moth we've ever gotten. Like, it really captures how absolutely frigging adorable moths are.
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I'm super glad that we finally got a genuinely menacing Fairy-type; there should be more scary Fairy-types, since fairies in mythology weren't adorable little Disney-esque pixies. Like, at all. As much as I'll miss Scolipede, Centiskorch is just plain awesome and is more accurate to real centipedes (it even has forcipules), and Dragapult's such a wonderfully bizarre concept for a Dragon (It's a Diplocaulus that's also a stealth bomber that launches its babies out of its head like missiles!) that I can't help but love it.
 
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