Non-Story Pokémon SwSh Datamine Thread (SPOILER WARNING, It's Finally Here!)

[godiego]

It's the smallest roster of playable Pokémon in any game since RSE.

only from a sheer quantitative perspective. the size of a roster means little if so much of it is locked behind having to have played x-number of previous installments.

 

[Phosphene]

so much of it is locked behind having to have played x-number of previous installments.

The roster isn't locked like that. In the modern games at least, as long as you have access to WiFi and trading you can obtain practically any Pokemon.

 

[godiego]

The roster isn't locked like that. In the modern games at least, as long as you have access to WiFi and trading you can obtain practically any Pokemon.

that you can obtain any Pokemon via the internet is irrelevant; the fact of the matter is that those pokemon came from an older game.

 

[Phosphene]

that you can obtain any Pokemon via the internet is irrelevant; the fact of the matter is that those pokemon came from an older game.

I fail to see how the ability to obtain Pokémon is not relevant but their origins are. We’re talking about roster size, right? Irregardless of their origins, there was still a relatively easy way to obtain those Pokémon. You said they were locked behind playing other games when that isn’t exactly true.

 

[godiego]

I fail to see how the ability to obtain Pokémon is not relevant but their origins are. We’re talking about roster size, right? Irregardless of their origins, there was still a relatively easy way to obtain those Pokémon. You said they were locked behind playing other games when that isn’t exactly true.

think of it this way: i'm a kid and USUM is my first game. big fan of cats and i want a Glameow. how do i get one? trimming out some of the fat of the story, i get one because someone had brought up one from Pearl or ORAS. no matter what in this case, the Glameow is going to have come from someone who brought up theirs from Pearl or ORAS; maybe it's a few eggs removed from Patient Zero, but nonetheless without having someone who played Pearl or ORAS, i would have no Glameow.

having a massive roster means nothing if it's all predicated on you or someone else having near-continuously played the series from the get-go.

 

[Phosphene]

having a massive roster means nothing if it's all predicated on you or someone else having near-continuously played the series from the get-go.

I disagree. Not only has the massive Pokemon roster not depended on someone having played past games before, I feel that as long as the monsters in the roster are easily accessible it's size should count. Yes, it hinges (mostly) on someone transferring their Pokemon, but that doesn't change the fact that almost the full extent of the roster is easily accessible for your average player.

 

[prog rocker]

Updated the thread to include partial data on the recently leaked Pokémon.

EDIT: Thanks, @TheElderKing , for showing them to me.

 

[Titania]

Is there any info for the version exclusives? Also wondering how they handle the TM prize for the version exclusive gyms.

 

[prog rocker]

Is there any info for the version exclusives? Also wondering how they handle the TM prize for the version exclusive gyms.

I have seen some things related to version exclusives, but I don't know how reliable they are.

On the Gym question: Not sure. I feel that you're going to obtain the other TM later.

 

[Blaine.]

Screw that Houndour aint in the game. I wanted to use a Houndoom, Galvantula, Hawlucha, and Grookey but NO

 

[Velvet]

Do we get to see Leon in a normal outfit at all or is he stuck in that atrocious champion uniform?

 

[Blaine.]

Piers is badass though

 

[RC821]

Raboot sounds like a Steel type Pokemon. Also, congrats Piers, you are the oficially the first Dark-type Gym Leader ever.

 

[marshiyanmisuta]

Raboot sounds like a Steel type Pokemon.

Rabbit + Football Boot

 

[prog rocker]

Do we get to see Leon in a normal outfit at all or is he stuck in that atrocious champion uniform?

There are cards of Gym Leaders in alternate artwork (like Nessa's civilian clothing and unmasked Allister), but I won't post them here because some of them have major spoilers (as in, the ones I won't post here). Curiously enough, they didn't post Leon's cards IIRC.

 

[prog rocker]

Also, I corrected a mistake, the sixth Sword leader is a Rock specialist called Gordie.

 

[Eeveely]

Curiously enough, they didn't post Leon's cards IIRC.

We already saw one btw

 

[prog rocker]

We already saw one btw

Really? Can you show me?

 

[Esserise]

Really? Can you show me?

In one of the trailers

 

[Blaine.]

So what I am going to assume is due to a lack of old legendaries, we will get them in mystery gifts, along with other pokemon (Cough Cough Ash Greninja and probably like 50,000 Pikachus). But damn the snap might ruin some in-game battling teams.