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Official Pokémon Sword and Shield speculation thread (Updated June 5th, 2019)

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Keeping my own expectations pretty low here, so I'm going to say no for now. I feel like they're using slightly different models than the ones in SM/USUM anyway so they'd have to enhance those models to fit the graphical style of the game, if that makes sense.

The models are probably the same. The models of 3DS games, GO, Let's Go etc are the same (those of overworld of 3DS games were "worsened" versions, to not cause lag tho). But I think so too (that it's unlikely).

I do think there's a chance for it. It would be kind of stupid if they didn't either way- the Switch can certainly handle it.

I wish. I mean, there's a chance, but from what was shown in the trailer, I think it's unlikely. I think both rideable and following Pokémon features will not be in the game, unless it's super-limited this time (of course, we can get something like Poké Ride or Soar again).

About rideable, in the trailer we can see places that are impossible to access (like that "agroglyph"). And as the perspective and world of Sword and Shield is quite different from the Let's Go, as in the case above, it would seem pretty weird, because flying rideable Pokémon would be prevented from overtaking an invisible wall sometimes. The world of Sword in Shield seems to be much less "free-explorable" than the one from Let's Go in general, so I think rideable Pokémon like Let's Go are out of the question (I know you're not talking about rideable Pokémon specifically, but it was something from Let's Go that I was expecting them to keep...).

About following Pokémon, there are some places (like the underground part, and the first city) that seems to be too small to properly accommodate certain Pokémon. Of course, like Let's Go, they could go back to the Pokéball when that was the case, but I don't know...The fixed camera could only makes the situation worse. The world just doesn't seem to be designed with that in mind, unless it's super limited this time (only for small and medium Pokémon).

I think it would be better to come back with these two features when we have cities like that background of Pokkén, and more openish-worlds.

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The models are probably the same. The models of 3DS games, GO, Let's Go etc are the same (those of overworld of 3DS games were "worsened" versions, to not cause lag tho). But I think so too (that it's unlikely).



I wish. I mean, there's a chance, but from what was shown in the trailer, I think it's unlikely. I think both rideable and following Pokémon features will not be in the game, unless it's super-limited this time (of course, we can get something like Poké Ride or Soar again).

About rideable, in the trailer we can see places that are impossible to access (like that "agroglyph"). And as the perspective and world of Sword and Shield is quite different from the Let's Go, as in the case above, it would seem pretty weird, because flying rideable Pokémon would be prevented from overtaking an invisible wall sometimes. The world of Sword in Shield seems to be much less "free-explorable" than the one from Let's Go in general, so I think rideable Pokémon like Let's Go are out of the question (I know you're not talking about rideable Pokémon specifically, but it was something from Let's Go that I was expecting them to keep...).

About following Pokémon, there are some places (like the underground part, and the first city) that seems to be too small to properly accommodate certain Pokémon. Of course, like Let's Go, they could go back to the Pokéball when that was the case, but I don't know...The fixed camera could only makes the situation worse. The world just doesn't seem to be designed with that in mind, unless it's super limited this time (only for small and medium Pokémon).

I think it would be better to come back with these two features when we have cities like that background of Pokkén, and more openish-worlds.

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If anything, I would think that rideable Pokémon would be even more likely to be in these games than following pokemon- a poke ride feature, at the very least. We are definitely not going back to hms at this point, and I hope to heck they aren't going to repeat something like the "secret techniques" that they had in Let's Go. And after Gen 7 in general, it would be quite a step backwards to give us the bike or skates again for fast travel.

I don't think invisible walls would be too much of an issue, honestly. I'm sure that there must be some places in Kanto where the flight limitations don't make sense--heck, the fact that they just fly so close to the ground is already pretty laughably limited.

We also weren't shown too many areas in the trailer, so most of the routes may be plenty big enough to have a large Pokémon out with you. Plus Kanto had tiny routes and a fixed camera, didn't stop you from riding an onix around.
 

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Keeping my own expectations pretty low here, so I'm going to say no for now. I feel like they're using slightly different models than the ones in SM/USUM anyway so they'd have to enhance those models to fit the graphical style of the game, if that makes sense.
Nah, we've been using the exact same models for everything since Gen 6, just with different textures. That's why pikachu still looks so stiff.
 

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I don't think we'll be back to HMs either, as I said I also think we'll have something like Poké Ride (and maybe something like soar). But I think that rideable Pokémon like those of Let's Go is unlikely.

Let's go Kanto was more free-explorable (comparing to Galar), you could go to more places on the map. Like, inside the city, almost everything was explorable, for example. In the case of SwSh, it seems less free. We have mountains that we probably will not be able to totally explore. And right on the first routes, some fences prevent you from passing to fields, as we see in the trailer. The perspective of the Let's Go camera is also different, so in the case of SwSh I think everything would be weirder in the case of invisible walls. And in Let's Go we had only 150 Pokémon, with no one really large (in fact, some had its size reduced). In SwSh, we will have the 800 again, that includes the legendaries, Wailord, etc.
 

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I do find it interesting looking if nothing else. any translations on it yet or other sheets of the rest of the starters?
 

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Do y’all think there’s still a chance Pokémon will follow us in Sword and Shield? I know we didn’t see it at all in the trailer, but maybe they just didn’t show it off yet? I feel like it’s weird that SM/USUM had a walking/running animation for every Pokémon but most of them were never used...
I don't think so that feature after how great HGSS implemented it now feels like a "occasional add on because we can" kinda thing. I wouldn't mind its return here but unless it's integrated into the game well like a Pokeathlon thing i'm not counting on it.
 

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I don't think so that feature after how great HGSS implemented it now feels like a "occasional add on because we can" kinda thing. I wouldn't mind its return here but unless it's integrated into the game well like a Pokeathlon thing i'm not counting on it.
A new Pokeathlon thing would be the dream... that was my favorite side activity Pokemon has ever had. It probably wouldn't be as fun without the touch controls, but they'd probably be able to figure something out for it if they really wanted to implement it again.
 

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Interesting Grookey evolution... would that be the final form?
 

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View: https://twitter.com/julien9985490/status/1122134687869276160


The one thing is not only does this completely undermine the musical aspect of Grookey, but it's taking the mischievous part of it's description too seriously. Seriously, do any of these fake leakers acutually pay attention to pokemon before drawing it?


I don't know. I'm not gonna speak to the validity of this design, but I think it's kind of silly to definitively say that the rhythmic aspect of Grookey's description is the 'focus' of his concept, rather than the mischieviousness. Personally, fake or not, I rather like this design concept. And I don't necessarily see anything in this visual design that precludes rhythm still being incorporated in its theme. Remember that, at their reveal, one of the popular expectations was for Popplio to become circus themed, or something very similar. No one expected an opera/siren theme, but it does make sense in hindsight.
 

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It's the camera angle that makes this look fake to me. It looks like they just took a picture of the sheet lying around somewhere, as opposed to getting the actual file like in the SuMo starter leaks. And how believable is it that Game Freak just left this reference sheet lying around somewhere for someone to waltz in and take a picture of it without getting caught?
 

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The one thing is not only does this completely undermine the musical aspect of Grookey, but it's taking the mischievous part of it's description too seriously. Seriously, do any of these fake leakers acutually pay attention to pokemon before drawing it?

They did a good job drawing graveler, I'll give them that. Like the style on just that one part of the sheet is almost convincing. XD

But man, again with the useless silhouette comparison. You can't tell the actual height of it using that image. Most of the height on that silhouette is its tail and that random log.
 

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I love how many of these fake Grookey evolution model sheets have examples of how the hair looks down and up- its not something that I would find odd to put on a model sheet, necessarily, its just interesting that so many of these have that specific detail that would only be necessary for a very specific design choice.

It just feels like that idea is being either consciously or subconsciously picked up by a lot of fan artists. I think that happens a lot during speculation time, and its just being exacerbated by the fact that we seem to be getting even more fake leaks than usual this generation- I bet when we finally see the real designs, there'll be a pretty big visual difference between what Gamefreak came up with and what fans were speculating, because so many of the fan speculations have been made by people who have already seen the existing fan designs.
 

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I bet when we finally see the real designs, there'll be a pretty big visual difference between what Gamefreak came up with and what fans were speculating, because so many of the fan speculations have been made by people who have already seen the existing fan designs.

Oh, I bet you're right. Decidueye epecially was a (pleasantly) surprising design choice and very different from most fan designs. I think I remember one other that gave it a hooded design, an assassin theme I think it was. That was the closest I saw any fan designs come.
 

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I love how many of these fake Grookey evolution model sheets have examples of how the hair looks down and up- its not something that I would find odd to put on a model sheet, necessarily, its just interesting that so many of these have that specific detail that would only be necessary for a very specific design choice.

It just feels like that idea is being either consciously or subconsciously picked up by a lot of fan artists. I think that happens a lot during speculation time, and its just being exacerbated by the fact that we seem to be getting even more fake leaks than usual this generation- I bet when we finally see the real designs, there'll be a pretty big visual difference between what Gamefreak came up with and what fans were speculating, because so many of the fan speculations have been made by people who have already seen the existing fan designs.
I still place my bet on a baton twirling cheerleader or marching band lead in it's final evolution.

Huh, so this was tweeted


View: https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1123276970370818049
 
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I honestly don't get why people still think following 'mons will be a thing; we've seen the trailer. They aren't.
 
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