Official Pokémon Sword and Shield speculation thread (Updated June 5th, 2019)

[NealIRC]

The problem is the execution, dude. Being harassed like that is not okay in any context.

Are you talking about insults or assaults? The original comment said insults.

 

[godiego]

Nooooo, don't compare SwSh with a 2nd version of a core series (US/UM, B2/W2). Gotta compare them with the 1st core series of the generation.

okay so 457 like Kalos's dex then?

 

[Diamandis]

Wait heres the trailer for the water gym...nothing new but im still so in love with Nessa i had to share

View: https://twitter.com/pokejungle/status/1138630756304130048

Are you talking about insults or assaults? The original comment said insults.

...does it matter? cause truthfully neither is okay at all in any context of the situation

 

[PinkIceFox]

There's a big difference between voicing criticism and being giant angry children shouting insults and calling people stupid.

It's also not a far slip into doxxing and real life threats of harm/worse from what I have seen from angry gamers in the past.

 

[prog rocker]

Are you talking about insults or assaults? The original comment said insults.

I'm talking about harrasing people. You can criticize the games all you want, you're free to do that, but not hunt down people and attacking them.

 

[NealIRC]

...does it matter? cause truthfully neither is okay at all in any context of the situation

Well, yeah, 1 is legal, and the other illegal.

 

[prog rocker]

Well, yeah, 1 is legal, and the other illegal.

But does legality make it alright?

 

[PocketMonster]

Based on what I've seen, I really feel like a lot of love has gone into these games and that there is probably so many more great things we have too see ( especially since its only June). Although they deserve a bit of criticism, I can only imagine how the people who worked on the game are feeling about people dropping the entire game/series over an issue that has yet to be truly discussed in full by Gamefreak. I do realize that many fans were hurt by this as well though, and I just want to try to bring our frustrations into perspective that Gamefreak employees probably have equal if not more passion about the games than we do. And to be honest, I do feel that they are reluctant to cut pokemon from the game ( given that they are still updating the pokemon models for switch) and would love to have them all in right at launch. Feel free to disagree with me on this, but I just wanted to bring a bit more empathy and peace into this whole conversion built around frustration and aggression.

i feel alot of love has gone into these games as well, but if gamefreak had more to say or discuss on that topic they should have waited to say something about it or said more at the time because, like we see now, saying only a tid bit just upsets people.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

You may not like the idea but it's the principle behind it that matters,

What principle? "I don't like this removal" is only enough to justify complaining about it. Harassing someone over it is violating principles like basic human decency, which is far more important than which Pokemon you want in a game.

and that fans are not happy with the new Dynamax feature. Inflate someone 10x and their stats go up by 50%? Sheesh.

No, this is definitely about the dex restrictions. Dynamax was revealed a while ago.

But, this is what the free market is. Just like government vs. people.

Free market means that people are allowed to choose what they purchase, not that they're allowed to harass people for making changes to a product.

 

[Sakuraa]

lots of people on twitter are just throwing insults at masuda

Wow, seriously? That's just childish. Masuda surely is not the sole person behind this decision. Do these people think insulting him will bring their favorite mons back?

 

[PinkIceFox]

Well, yeah, 1 is legal, and the other illegal.

Just because its not illegal to insult someone doesn't mean doing it won't make you look like a petulant child.

 

[NealIRC]

I'm afraid to tell you this, but for most of you peeps, you guys are "actions speak louder than words" rather than "words speak louder than action."

While I myself am a "words speak louder than actions" most of you people are not. Most of you people when you really are angry, your actions speak louder than words.

As for insult vs. assault being legal and illegal, maybe a better analogy for some of you wooden-heads is child porn vs. adult porn, 1 is legal (depending on the situation) and 1 is completely illegal.

 

[Esserise]

Masuda surely is not the sole person behind this decision.

Masuda has been taking the blame for what have almost certainly all been collaborative group decisions for several years now

 

[Team Gaara]

People need to chill. Death threats and insult hurling is not going to make you be able to transfer over your Shuckle. There's a mature way to do things and voice a complaint so that you'll actually be taken seriously~

 

[Minya_Nouvelle]

(Sorry, late to the "party" and all. The transfer issue is definitely concerning, even though I stopped caring about transferring up mons in Gen VII because I've reached a point where I can't be bothered with all of that anymore [like its really just too much for my OCD brain; I had to quit]) HOWEVER:

I'm still freaking out a little about what they said about dynamaxing "replacing" Megas and Z-moves. I'm really really hoping that that was just a poor choice of words. Megas and Z-moves HAVE to still be in, otherwise my theory/dream is dead and I will be devastated. The Spirit is out of balance again, Cyrus is still evil and this is the Dark Timeline. Probably the one where Ghetsis successfully takes over Unova and N never learns he was being used and manipulated.

 

[Cresselia92]

Wow, seriously? That's just childish. Masuda surely is not the sole person behind this decision. Do these people think insulting him will bring their favorite mons back?

People simply want a scapegoat, and it’s easy to point fingers at the most vocal member of a company, unfortunately. :/

 

[prog rocker]

I'm still freaking out a little about what they said about dynamaxing "replacing" Megas and Z-moves. I'm really really hoping that that was just a poor choice of words. Megas and Z-moves HAVE to still be in, otherwise my theory/dream is dead and I will be devastated. The Spirit is out of balance again, Cyrus is still evil and this is the Dark Timeline. Probably the one where Ghetsis successfully takes over Unova and N never learns he was being used and manipulated.

It was a mistranslation. Z-Moves and megas are in the game.

 

[PinkIceFox]

I'm afraid to tell you this, but for most of you peeps, you guys are "actions speak louder than words" rather than "words speak louder than action."

While I myself am a "words speak louder than actions" most of you people are not. Most of you people when you really are angry, your actions speak louder than words.

As for insult vs. assault being legal and illegal, maybe a better analogy for some of you wooden-heads is child porn vs. adult porn, 1 is legal (depending on the situation) and 1 is completely illegal.

How old are you? We're wooden-heads (what even is that?) because we thing its childish to be insulting/threatening real life human beings because you cant transfer your favorite magical monster animal to the next game in the magical monster animal series?

And are you seriously comparing two forms of harassment to a normal thing and the DISTRIBUTION AND ABUSE OF MINORS? Because sweet tits on a Milktank son, do you need to learn some things.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

As for insult vs. assault being legal and illegal, maybe a better analogy for some of you wooden-heads is child porn vs. adult porn, 1 is legal (depending on the situation) and 1 is completely illegal.

Maybe you should try educating yourself a little more on basic concepts and realize that we're talking about the morality of the action, not the legality.

However, since you're so focused on rules, you'll be delighted to know that most websites do have their own rules, and Twitter is no exception! You'll find quite clearly stated in the Twitter Terms of Service that harassing other users is not allowed.

Using aggressive insults with the purpose of harassing or intimidating others

We take action against excessively aggressive insults that target an individual, including content that contains slurs or similar language. Please also note that while some individuals may find certain terms to be offensive, we will not action against every instance where insulting terms are used.

Encouraging or calling for others to harass an individual or group of people

We prohibit behavior that encourages others to harass or target specific individuals or groups with abusive behavior. This includes, but is not limited to; calls to target people with abuse or harassment online and behavior that urges offline action such as physical harassment.

So, yes, they're still breaking the rules on Twitter, too! Not a leg to stand on here!

 

[Minya_Nouvelle]

It was a mistranslation. Z-Moves and megas are in the game.

^I'm going to need a source on that. When I try to google it I just get MEGAS click-bait website and a bunch of fan speculation.