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Official Pre-Pokémon Sword & Pokémon Shield Speculation & Leaks thread

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It's useless if there are no Contests.
Yeah, there's really no question why Cosplay Pikachu was removed- it has no use and there's no reason to implement the mechanic needed to do its form changes.

The question is why was Eternal Flower Floette not also removed in Gen 7 if it wasn't being used for anything?
 
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And about the signature move, the animators probably just had list of moves taken from the database they had to animate and didn't think about whether they were used or unused
Light of Ruin already had an animation in Gen 6. I really really really doubt that they decided that it needed an updated animation in Gen 7 without realizing that it went to a pokemon that wasn't ever going to be used. And then they added a pokedex entry to Eternal Flower Floette in USUM on top of that and still didn't think to remove it?
 
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Gonna chip in to agree that Z probably wasn't planned (or that if they ever had any hope to make one, it was scrapped early on. XD)

I just think that if we are making a return to France, it's possible that they could use ideas that were originally intended for Kalos- like how stuff from the Gold/Silver demo got used in future games.

Maybe we'll finally get Mega Flygon. >=/
I see, I agree. And yeah, I would love to have new mega evolutions.

So why not make Zygarde the mascot for USUM instead of Necrozma if that was the plan to begin with? Why even bother introducing it in XY instead of SM? Zygarde, Eternal Flower Floette, and the other bits don't really seem planned at all. It all just screams "we were planning Z but couldn't release it".
You didn't get it. I think a Pokémon Z may have been scrapped early on (maybe they wanted to release a new generation for the 20th anniversary), I just don't believe it was purposely scrapped for a "return to Kalos" later. And even if Zygarde has some little relation with Sun and Moon, the themes of Sun and Moon were, in addition to others, about light, then it also makes sense to Necrozma (Pokémon prism) to have been the legendary of the USUM cover anyway.
 
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Light of Ruin already had an animation in Gen 6. I really really really doubt that they decided that it needed an updated animation in Gen 7 without realizing that it went to a pokemon that wasn't ever going to be used. And then they added a pokedex entry to Eternal Flower Floette in USUM on top of that and still didn't think to remove it?
This is gamefreak were talking about
They probably didn't even realize they never released it
Honestly if they really do plan on making it legal, hopefully it isn't part of the story
I really don't want to go back to kalos. I want a compleatly new region, not half a new region
 
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This is gamefreak were talking about
They probably didn't even realize they never released it
Honestly if they really do plan on making it legal, hopefully it isn't part of the story
I really don't want to go back to kalos. I want a compleatly new region, not half a new region
....I'm sure they would know if they released it or not.
 
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You didn't get it. I think a Pokémon Z may have been scrapped early on (maybe they wanted to release a new generation for the 20th anniversary), I just don't believe it was purposely scrapped for a "return to Kalos" later.
I know, and I agree on that much.

And even if Zygarde has some little relation with Sun and Moon, the themes of Sun and Moon were, in addition to others, about light, then it also makes sense to Necrozma (Pokémon prism) to have been the legendary of the USUM cover anyway.
I mean why did they even bother creating Necrozma in the first place if they already had a Pokemon they wanted to relate with those themes? And if that was the reason, why didn't they bother elaborating on that with Zygarde instead of unceremoniously dumping it into Alola with little explanation as to why? I don't think that's the reason.
 
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This is gamefreak were talking about
They probably didn't even realize they never released it
Honestly if they really do plan on making it legal, hopefully it isn't part of the story
I really don't want to go back to kalos. I want a compleatly new region, not half a new region
Yeah. I don't think that we will visit Kalos or any other past region in these games. I don't want to visit any old regions either.
 
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I know, and I agree on that much.



I mean why did they even bother creating Necrozma in the first place if they already had a Pokemon they wanted to relate with those themes? And if that was the reason, why didn't they bother elaborating on that with Zygarde instead of unceremoniously dumping it into Alola with little explanation as to why? I don't think that's the reason.
This discussion confuses me... Zygarde's thing was protecting the ecosystem. Necrozma's thing was light.
 
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IMPORTANT NOTES: Before I start writing my thoughts, I would like to stress socially and politely that I do NOT wish for vulgar and impolite criticism. You are free to discus and criticise it by all means, but please do remember to respect others with info that they want to share in this forum. I do not wish for any more bullying and slamming downs, this is only a free personal opinion that has nothing to do with leaks nor rumor shown on 4chan or any other sites. NO Crown and Sceptre, NO King and Queen, NO leaks concerning the region being in the UK or Spain. I'm only discussing from what I've found for myself according to Junichi Masuda's Tweets on Twitter and The Pokemon Company. Thank you.

Now, this is what Junichi Masuda hinted thus far, if we are going to believe that these tweets are connected to Gen 8, just as the past tweets correlated to Sun and Moon and LGPE.

We have him mentioning Wind and Cold for the region's temperature.
There is also a Renewal theme relating to it.
He rode on a bus and was seated on the top left seat, stating that it's like he's a driver.
He also in the latest tweet stated... Was the lyrics of the London bashi like this one? What? (Lol)... Bashi in Japanese can mean two things, Chopsticks or Bridge. Although it also means Bus in Chinese.

View: https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/1091267779544592384


There is also the official Pokemon Kids TV that was released on Youtube yesterday where it has a wallpaper, and is shown before and after each video, showing old victorian houses along with other buildings, cars, a jet plane, trees and even a red London Bus. There are also two British songs of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and London Bridge is Falling Down.


So, if we accept the Bashi part being Bridge, we have in the lyrics Wood and Clay, Bricks and Mortar, Iron and Steel and Silver and Gold. This does show a renewal theme within the lyrics and the items used when constructing the bridge. Also to note, Junichi Masuda tweeted of boarding a red Double Decker Bus in London back in 2016.

View: https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/780495624101691392


It might not mean anything, it might not have anything to do with the UK being a Region. This is just all we got thus far.

Now, I really want you all to be more open on this, and less grudgingly over something that you might think is tiresome, when it could still be a possibility. So Please, don't gun down the messenger boy that is just sharing you this, but instead take your anger on these fakers that are just crying wolf to gain attention on themselves, and distracting us from the possible real wolf that could as well be making an appearance very soon. Thank you.
 
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IMPORTANT NOTES: Before I start writing my thoughts, I would like to stress socially and politely that I do NOT wish for vulgar and impolite criticism. You are free to discus and criticise it by all means, but please do remember to respect others with info that they want to share in this forum. I do not wish for any more bullying and slamming downs, this is only a free personal opinion that has nothing to do with leaks nor rumor shown on 4chan or any other sites. NO Crown and Sceptre, NO King and Queen, NO leaks concerning the region being in the UK or Spain. I'm only discussing from what I've found for myself according to Junichi Masuda's Tweets on Twitter and The Pokemon Company. Thank you.

Now, this is what Junichi Masuda hinted thus far, if we are going to believe that these tweets are connected to Gen 8, just as the past tweets correlated to Sun and Moon and LGPE.

We have him mentioning Wind and Cold for the region's temperature.
There is also a Renewal theme relating to it.
He rode on a bus and was seated on the top left seat, stating that it's like he's a driver.
He also in the latest tweet stated... Was the lyrics of the London bashi like this one? What? (Lol)... Bashi in Japanese can mean two things, Chopsticks or Bridge. Although it also means Bus in Chinese.

View: https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/1091267779544592384


There is also the official Pokemon Kids TV that was released on Youtube yesterday where it has a wallpaper, and is shown before and after each video, showing old victorian houses along with other buildings, cars, a jet plane, trees and even a red London Bus. There are also two British songs of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and London Bridge is Falling Down.


So, if we accept the Bashi part being Bridge, we have in the lyrics Wood and Clay, Bricks and Mortar, Iron and Steel and Silver and Gold. This does show a renewal theme within the lyrics and the items used when constructing the bridge. Also to note, Junichi Masuda tweeted of boarding a red Double Decker Bus in London back in 2016.

View: https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/780495624101691392


It might not mean anything, it might not have anything to do with the UK being a Region. This is just all we got thus far.

Now, I really want you all to be more open on this, and less grudgingly over something that you might think is tiresome, when it could still be a possibility. So Please, don't gun down the messenger boy that is just sharing you this, but instead take your anger on these fakers that are just crying wolf to gain attention on themselves, and distracting us from the possible real wolf that could as well be making an appearance very soon. Thank you.
Mods asked us to drop the UK as a region topic, so I don't believe that we will be getting into this again.
 
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When will the announcement come? Just something concrete will finally give us something to talk about. It really is a shame that we don't even know when the games are going to be announced. This is the reason why I hate drought seasons, nothing concrete to talk about. The longer this goes, the more we will have to rely on fake rumors to keep this going.
 
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When will the announcement come? Just something concrete will finally give us something to talk about. It really is a shame that we don't even know when the games are going to be announced. This is the reason why I hate drought seasons, nothing concrete to talk about. The longer this goes, the more we will have to rely on fake rumors to keep this going.
XD Based on product reveals, I'm confident that we will get something within the next two months.
 
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While visiting Kalos would be a good idea, I want it to be changed if we are going there. Especially since I don't want to become lost in Lumiose City again.
Do you think maybe a player-controlled camera would fix the problem? Most of the times I got lost in Lumiose it was because the camera on certain streets was just not in the right place for me to see where I was. I mean, I also thought a lot of the city looked too similar, so maybe a PC-camera and a redesign of the buildings to differentiate them more than the signs and the few buildings that were different colors in XY? I liked how big Lumiose is but it did get on my nerves sometimes when I was looking for the next route, and though I liked what it was going for, I think the idea of this big, beautiful city being the center of everything would've been more realized if the player could've looked at it on their own terms (looking up at Lumiose Tower at night just for the heck of it, not in a cutscene would've made my world, anyone else?). At the very least, I hope that whatever they go for in the next region(a more natural kind of aesthetic or a more architectural one) they let us do that.
 
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When will the announcement come? Just something concrete will finally give us something to talk about. It really is a shame that we don't even know when the games are going to be announced. This is the reason why I hate drought seasons, nothing concrete to talk about. The longer this goes, the more we will have to rely on fake rumors to keep this going.
View: https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/1090852075167051778


Someone on Youtube speculated that around Valentines Day is when a Pokemon Direct might come out. It's also around February that some Pokemon announcements were shown. in 2010, a Silhouette to Zoroark was shown before it's reveal in March.
 
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It's useless if there are no Contests.
Cap Pikachu doesn't serve much purpose beyond a visual difference and an extra move, and that's pretty much what Cosplay Pikachu did. Regardless, my point was that if they chose to make the decision to remove it, then they weren't just copy+pasting things in without considering what wasn't used.
This is gamefreak were talking about
They probably didn't even realize they never released it
I'm pretty sure making a game requires some level of awareness on what you release...
 
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