• 4chan is an 18+ website, and as such we do not want to expose our underage users to that site.

    You may post screen shots and text from 4chan, but direct linking to the site or its archival sites is not allowed.

    Thanks.

  • All content from the former Roleplaying Games forum has been merged into the Writers' Workshop forum. You can find more information in this thread.

    We hope to see you roleplaying away soon!
  • Regarding Isle of Armor/Crown Tundra DLC Spoilers

    For users browsing this forum, be aware that you may stumble upon spoilers! Threads that have spoilered information will be tagged as such, but still do take caution.
    Spoiler Embargo will be in place one month from DLC release. This means it will lift on July 17th, 2020.

  • The World Beyond Restructure is now finished! Check out the update here!
  • The 2020 staff drive for Bulbagarden is now live! If you're interested in joining the Bulbagarden staff team (whether it be forums, social media, or more!) then you're encouraged to apply!
  • Hey everyone! The Writer's Workshop is hosting an exciting event, Trainers of Fanfiction! It's a community event focused around your characters!

Official Pre-Pokémon Sword & Pokémon Shield Speculation & Leaks thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Here to ride the rumor train.
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Messages
5,563
Reaction score
19,617
I wonder if we'll see Fairy be nerfed in this Gen. When the Fairy type was first revealed, it was meant to balance the Dragon-Type. I'm guessing from all the adjustments from Gen 6 to Gen 7, they do it based off VGC, such as the Parental Bond and Gale Wings nerf. Now that I think about it Dragon Gem Latios dominated that circuit prior XY. I don't think a new type is necessary, just maybe giving an extra weakness or an Immunity. Like Ice. Please GF. Give Ice more defensive capabillities.
Honestly, from a logic standpoint, I am baffled that Ice isn't strong against water. Aside from hot water- when do you ever see water best a freezing cold temperature like that? If ice is the power of cold, it should freeze water solid, not get its butt kicked by it. XD That would create another nice little type-circle too with fire besting ice, ice besting water, and water besting fire.
 
Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
2,359
Reaction score
2,569
Honestly, Ditto still confuses me, since how can it transform into any Pokemon if just barely discovered. Heck, i even don't understand how it can transform in a Man-Made one, considering they don't have Pokemon DNA.
 
Flame Trainer
Joined
Jun 5, 2016
Messages
9,579
Reaction score
20,700
Honestly, from a logic standpoint, I am baffled that Ice isn't strong against water. Aside from hot water- when do you ever see water best a freezing cold temperature like that? If ice is the power of cold, it should freeze water solid, not get its butt kicked by it. XD That would create another nice little type-circle too with fire besting ice, ice besting water, and water besting fire.
I think water being resistant to ice and vice versa would be a better way to show the water/ice relationship. It would be also a unique case where two types are resistant to each other.
 
i love space
Joined
Jul 27, 2017
Messages
622
Reaction score
1,925
I wonder if we'll see Fairy be nerfed in this Gen. When the Fairy type was first revealed, it was meant to balance the Dragon-Type.
And Fairy type stills mantain Dragon Pokémon on point, which was totally needed after Outrage and Draco Meteor free spam during Gen V.
Even if it was totally harsh to have a new type being immune to Dragon there wasn't really another way to finally balance Dragon types without it, period.
It was also a buff for a less optimal offensive type —Poison— and Steel —which is actually not that bad but a buff is appreciated I guess?—.

If something I totally agree with you is on the Ice type buff. We've seen some improvements in Gen VII (Aurora Veil) but I don't think it is enough. Bug would like to have some more love that's not a Leech Life buff (it was pretty nice, however).

And while I do think Water is the best type I don't think it being weak to Ice would change things too much (Freeze Dry also exists), especially considering it is already weak to Electric, which also is one of the most common offensive types.
 
蒼い炎
Joined
May 18, 2014
Messages
277
Reaction score
847
Since Ditto can transform into any Pokémon, there doesn't necessarily have to be a speical connection to the new Pokémon and Ditto. For example, it's not like let's say Rapidash has anything anything to do with Ditto in particular. You can catch a Ditto that has transformed into Rapidash and will turn back into Ditto when caught. That's probably the 'relation' Ditto and the new Pokémon share as well. The appearance of this new Pokémon might just be the appearance of a hoard of Ditto that have transformed into this new Pokémon as a teaser.
 
Now with a m̶e̶g̶a̶ Gigantamax
Joined
Mar 3, 2013
Messages
1,199
Reaction score
1,714
I think water being resistant to ice and vice versa would be a better way to show the water/ice relationship. It would be also a unique case where two types are resistant to each other.
While I agree that ice should resist water, that wouldn't be unique. Bug and fighting both resist each other :)
 
Here to ride the rumor train.
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Messages
5,563
Reaction score
19,617
And Fairy type stills mantain Dragon Pokémon on point, which was totally needed after Outrage and Draco Meteor free spam during Gen V.
Even if it was totally harsh to have a new type being immune to Dragon there wasn't really another way to finally balance Dragon types without it, period.
It was also a buff for a less optimal offensive type —Poison— and Steel —which is actually not that bad but a buff is appreciated I guess?—.

If something I totally agree with you is on the Ice type buff. We've seen some improvements in Gen VII (Aurora Veil) but I don't think it is enough. Bug would like to have some more love that's not a Leech Life buff (it was pretty nice, however).

And while I do think Water is the best type I don't think it being weak to Ice would change things too much (Freeze Dry also exists), especially considering it is already weak to Electric, which also is one of the most common offensive types.
Water being weak to Ice would be a benefit to Ice, though- since Water is such a common type. Yeah, it wouldn't make people favor it over the other major offenses to Water, but it would be something in Ice's favor when it has so little going for it. And it would make some logical sense, too.
 
*Shivers*
Joined
Sep 1, 2015
Messages
5,513
Reaction score
9,456
Water being weak to ice wouldn’t help the latter. It’d just help the hundreds of non ice type Pokemon that can learn ice type moves. Besides, ice is already a fantastic offensive type as it is.

What it really needs is a defensive buff.
 
PokéManiac
Joined
Mar 28, 2018
Messages
235
Reaction score
533
View: https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1044573339140812800


Meltan it is the name of the pokemon. And it looks like its connected with ditto for real

And it says " Episode 1 " so we can expect more info about that pokemon from that twitter account
Only connected to ditto in a superficial sense. The same way all pokemon are connected to ditto. The meltan in go were just transformed ditto. Meaning no one has encountered the real thing yet
 
Last edited:
Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2016
Messages
3,609
Reaction score
10,008
View: https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1044573339140812800


Meltan it is the name of the pokemon. And it looks like its connected with ditto for real

And it says " Episode 1 " so we can expect more info about that pokemon from that twitter account
They just confirmed the Ditto were transforming into Meltan, not that there's any additional connection. (though I'm super excited to already have its name and possibly be getting more info)
 
PokéManiac
Joined
Mar 28, 2018
Messages
235
Reaction score
533
Im not suggesting an actual connection, but it is similar to magearna no? Ancient mythical pojemon looks man made. Also that was 1st gen 7 pokemon if im not mistaken. This is either last gen 7 or 1st gen 8, (not sure how to cladsify generations anymore)
 
Here to ride the rumor train.
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Messages
5,563
Reaction score
19,617
Im not suggesting an actual connection, but it is similar to magearna no? Ancient mythical pojemon looks man made. Also that was 1st gen 7 pokemon if im not mistaken. This is either last gen 7 or 1st gen 8, (not sure how to cladsify generations anymore)
I am disappointed at them trying to pass it off as being ancient when it clearly appears to be of a modern man-made origin.

Also at that name. You will forever be Nutty to me, little nut. D=
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top