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"Pocket Monsters Best Wishes" - coming this fall!

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yeah, but Ash was still the prominent character. I'm hoping for a big change that involves Ash being more like a mentor for Iris as she goes through her journeys. Then Brock's role would kind of be split up between him and Dento. Ash wouldn't have any major goals, but he would still catch pokemon and train them and stuff while showing Iris how a pro does it.

So you basically want him to give up on his dream. Good thing it won't happen. Ash will do gyms and Iris and Dento will do something else.
 

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Alright, here's the more detailed version of why I think Iris will do Contests/Musicals and Dento will just be the third wheel.

For Iris, the main reason I have for her doing Musicals is because she's the girl. Even if she doesn't seem like the type to do this kind of thing, that doesn't mean she wouldn't be interested in them. It would actually make them more interesting since she doesn't seem to fit the part.

And after Hikari, there's no way Iris wont have as much as, or even a larger role than her. Which leads me into Dento...

We already know he's a Pokémon Sommelier and a (former?) Gym Leader. You can't just keep piling on things that this character is while Iris has nothing. That's enough for him. Dento also isn't even in the the first three episodes and is already being played as less important than Iris in the promos. You just don't give someone like this a major sidequest.
 

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So you basically want him to give up on his dream. Good thing it won't happen. Ash will do gyms and Iris and Dento will do something else.
Basically yes. I know it won't happen, that's just what I would like to see happen.
Alright, here's the more detailed version of why I think Iris will do Contests/Musicals and Dento will just be the third wheel.

For Iris, the main reason I have for her doing Musicals is because she's the girl. Even if she doesn't seem like the type to do this kind of thing, that doesn't mean she wouldn't be interested in them. It would actually make them more interesting since she doesn't seem to fit the part.

And after Hikari, there's no way Iris wont have as much as, or even a larger role than her. Which leads me into Dento...

We already know he's a Pokémon Sommelier and a (former?) Gym Leader. You can't just keep piling on things that this character is while Iris has nothing. That's enough for him. Dento also isn't even in the the first three episodes and is already being played as less important than Iris in the promos. You just don't give someone like this a major sidequest.

I can see where your coming from, I just don't want Dento to be as flat as Brock was. He had like no growth at all after season one. And then he didn't even do anything for a while. I don't really mind Dento just kind of tagging along, I just hope they pull it off better than they did for Brock.
 

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I still have serious doubts about Dento taking part in Contests/Musicals. While the idea of a male coordinator in the main group sounds refreshing and interesting, I don't think that they would have a male character take part in the female targeted/centric battles. From a marketing standpoint, it would make more sense for them to use a female character for the female targeted battles since it would provide girls in the target audience a female character to cheer for and all. They normally wouldn't do that with a male character and besides that, they've used both May and Dawn to appeal more to the female target audience since AG. I don't know why they would change that now just because of Dento's design.

I could see Iris taking part of Contests/Musicals. I think that Contests in Isshu would have the musical appeals, but then keep the battle rounds. In regards to Iris's appearance, she doesn't look too girly, but that's never been a requirement for becoming a coordinator. I didn't think May looked or acted too girly and Zoey definitely never dressed up in a girly/feminine manner. She'll most likely take part in Contests/Musicals/whatever kind of girl-centric form of battle they'll have in Isshu.

I don't know what Dento will do. I definitely feel sad that Brock is most likely leaving since I've always liked him. Even though he doesn't really do that much, it never bothered me and he still came off as a fun, nice and cool character to me. I wouldn't want Dento to simply be Brock 2.0, especially since that would prove that replacing Brock would end up not getting a different character. I don't think that they'll add a third goal for Dento due to giving so much time for both Gyms and Contests, but I do hope that he stands out as his own character instead of doing exactly what Brock did.
 

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I still have serious doubts about Dento taking part in Contests/Musicals. While the idea of a male coordinator in the main group sounds refreshing and interesting, I don't think that they would have a male character take part in the female targeted/centric battles. From a marketing standpoint, it would make more sense for them to use a female character for the female targeted battles since it would provide girls in the target audience a female character to cheer for and all. They normally wouldn't do that with a male character and besides that, they've used both May and Dawn to appeal more to the female target audience since AG. I don't know why they would change that now just because of Dento's design.

I could see Iris taking part of Contests/Musicals. I think that Contests in Isshu would have the musical appeals, but then keep the battle rounds. In regards to Iris's appearance, she doesn't look too girly, but that's never been a requirement for becoming a coordinator. I didn't think May looked or acted too girly and Zoey definitely never dressed up in a girly/feminine manner. She'll most likely take part in Contests/Musicals/whatever kind of girl-centric form of battle they'll have in Isshu.

I don't know what Dento will do. I definitely feel sad that Brock is most likely leaving since I've always liked him. Even though he doesn't really do that much, it never bothered me and he still came off as a fun, nice and cool character to me. I wouldn't want Dento to simply be Brock 2.0, especially since that would prove that replacing Brock would end up not getting a different character. I don't think that they'll add a third goal for Dento due to giving so much time for both Gyms and Contests, but I do hope that he stands out as his own character instead of doing exactly what Brock did.

Harley and Drew were in contests, I see no reason why for once they can't have a main male character do them. It'd keep Dento from being Brock 2.0 that's for sure, he'd be more like Harley but a lot nicer LOL.
 

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I really don't want to see Dento do the whole "musicals" thing. I really don't think Itd be a great Idea for Dento to parade his pokemon around on stage like that... I want a different goal. I don't care what it is. Just PLEASE no musicals... Just my opinion.
 

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I really don't want to see Dento do the whole "musicals" thing. I really don't think Itd be a great Idea for Dento to parade his pokemon around on stage like that... I want a different goal. I don't care what it is. Just PLEASE no musicals... Just my opinion.

You never know. Maybe Ash will do musicals and Iris will do gym battles (of course not)!
 

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Harley and Drew were in contests, I see no reason why for once they can't have a main male character do them. It'd keep Dento from being Brock 2.0 that's for sure, he'd be more like Harley but a lot nicer LOL.

That is true. I didn't say that male trainers were not able to become coordinators, especially since we have seen quite a few of them in both AG and DP. It's just that I think that the fact that they're rivals and not part of the main group is where the significant difference lies. Sure, they're important as rivals and all, but May was generally more important due to being actually in the main cast and she didn't really come off as really girly to me.

In theory, Dento being a coordinator would be kind of interesting and would certainly prevent him from becoming Brock 2.0. However, that doesn't change the fact that Contests/Musicals are there to appeal to the female demographic of the target audience, so by a marketing point of view, having a male main character take an active role in those girl-oriented battles doesn't make much sense. It especially doesn't make much of any sense due to the fact that they've had female characters in the girl-centric battles for eight years with pretty great success, given how many Contests there were in DP and gaining even more significance ever since they were introduced in AG. Why would they suddenly give another male main character the role of the female-centric battle after giving that role to a female lead character has been so successful?

Plus, Musashi made a good point about after Dawn receiving so much attention, Iris is going to have about the same or more amount of screentime. So, I doubt that she wouldn't have a battle-centric goal, which also leads me to believe that she'll do Contests/Musicals/whatever girl-centric battle goal Isshu has. Dento definitely comes off as more of a third-wheel character, even though I still hope that he isn't exactly like Brock. Maybe they'll introduce a third goal, although I have trouble believing that considering the fairly equal amount of attention to Gyms and Contests, but I see that as a more likely case scenario than Dento being in Contests/Musicals.
 

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Something I've just noticed, Shimura has been the animation director for the first episodes of AG and DP. So we're probably looking at Shimura-animated BW001.
 

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Something I've just noticed, Shimura has been the animation director for the first episodes of AG and DP. So we're probably looking at Shimura-animated BW001.

Yeah. Some people didn't believe me, but I know it's Shimura because of Iris's mouth.
 

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I think that Dento will be like the reverse of Brock: girls (mostly COTDs) would have a crush on him only for him to turn them down. Ash would notice this & probably say something like "This never happened to Brock...". :lol:

Iris.....I can't really see what she plans to do. She's been said to be a wild kid, so I doubt she's gonna be doing anything related to those musical-things.
 

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I think that Dento will be like the reverse of Brock: girls (mostly COTDs) would have a crush on him only for him to turn them down. Ash would notice this & probably say something like "This never happened to Brock...". :lol:

Iris.....I can't really see what she plans to do. She's been said to be a wild kid, so I doubt she's gonna be doing anything related to those musical-things.

Maybe the Best Wishes anime deals with her transformation into a normal girl? Iris seemed quite awkward to me, but I've gotten used to her already.
 

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Look at Dento's design, it just screams someone who would want to do Contests/Musicals.

Maybe they could finally do three-quests in one region, somehow? Maybe.
 

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Look at Dento's design, it just screams someone who would want to do Contests/Musicals.

Maybe they could finally do three-quests in one region, somehow? Maybe.
Ash - Gyms
Dento - Contests/Musicals
Iris - Missions (like those which you have to complete in BW games, they could turn them into quests for Iris to finish. But for what - I dunno.
 

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It's probably just me, but I feel like making Iris do contests or whatever is taking the easy way out. I'd like to see Dento doing them way more, since it's not something we've seen twice already with a girl. It could be really entertaining to see how a guy takes on Pokemon Coordinating on the main cast. But knowing how lazy the writers can be, this might not happen.

If Dento is just gonna sit there and give info on Pokemon and what not, then Brock really shouldn't have been replaced, as much as I hate to say that. It's bad enough he's a gym leader... Oh well. I'm gonna stay optimistic and if he doesn't do contests or musicals, then hopefully he does something other than sitting on the sidelines.

I feel like I'm really jinxing myself right now.
 

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Look at Dento's design, it just screams someone who would want to do Contests/Musicals.

Maybe they could finally do three-quests in one region, somehow? Maybe.

If everyone had a quest, it would be quite boring and rushed, if they were to do it within 191-192 episodes.
 

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Maybe Iris will be a pokemon breeder, or doctor, or whatever it was what Brock did.

Just taking care of the creatures.
 

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Plus, Musashi made a good point about after Dawn receiving so much attention, Iris is going to have about the same or more amount of screentime.

Actually,if it happens that Dento has active goal too,Iris could likely receive less screentime than Hikari(Dawn).But on other hand even if she receives little less,she would still get enough for good development so i wont mind.May for example received less than Dawn,but most people were satisfied with what she got.

I only hope Iris wont be doing contests again,that would be terribly repetitive and somewhat "boring".We had May and Dawn being coordinators,its seriously time for some change,otherwise theres no point behind bringing yet another new girl.
On second thought,i dont find any point in replacing females and older ones should be used instead but whatever.

Maybe they'll introduce a third goal, although I have trouble believing that considering the fairly equal amount of attention to Gyms and Contests, but I see that as a more likely case scenario than Dento being in Contests/Musicals.

That woulnt be so hard as it may seem.Sure third ongoing quest would receive less attention than gyms or contsts,but there are two ways to allow three quests going on:
-either cut down on some arcs or fillers,and reduce abit Ash and "insert girl here" screentime which isnt so much needed for their development,allowng that third party gets spotlight too.
-prolong little who saga.
 
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