Young Battle Trainer
- May 26, 2016
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I dunno, I guess it's the sports theme. Also it's compairing some of the past regions. Not what I have hoped. But since the bed has been made, I'd have to sleep in it.How do you figure that SWSH has more of a masculine feel to it? It maintains the prospect of a male or female protagonist that you can customize with numerous options. Even when it comes to that, the females have a lot more options than the males.
But by then it would be too late, since the narrator would confirm his gender at day one.Not really serious here, but what if the reason Gou looks like he could be of either gender is that one of the writers had this great idea for a second protag, but he was going to be male, and enough of the crew had questions about whether or not that would go over well, so they decided to design him to possibly be either gender so if they got enough backlash regarding not having a female in the main cast they could go back and say "just kidding Gou was a girl all along" without having to change anything they had already produced except a few pronouns in the voice acting.
I think my feeling about this announcement would be a lot different if Gou were, in fact, a girl (and even if they changed now I would feel better). Not really digging the design, but it isn't because of the gender neutral aspect, I'm a big fan of Angie and was hoping to see her more than we did, and liked Anabel quite a bit too, I think the main reason I don't like the design is because it reminds me too much of Ash (who is, in fact, still present and doesn't really need to be reminded of in the form of a second protagonist).
One more big issue on the gender thing, I get we are beating this to death and it is getting really old, but it is still a really disappointing aspect to me. Everyone says this is only a negative to female viewers not having a female protag, but I think it can be damaging to anyone, regardless of their gender. I don't think it matters which gender the viewer is, some people connect better with females and some connect better with males. I can't see any reason why having both would be a bad thing, but I can see a lot of reasons why not having one or the other would be a bad thing in a world like Pokemon, where anyone is encouraged to do what they like regardless of their gender (except, for some reason, showcases). The writers still tend to write boys in a certain way and girls in a certain way, even though in reality preferences, likes, and dislikes are less dictated by gender (due to less pressure than before - not because of a change in human nature) than ever before, which means that some of us, regardless of our gender, are more likely to connect with a female character due to the way they are written or more likely to connect to a male character due to the way they are written. And since they always have multiple characters in the main cast, and the one with the most attention is a male, why not allow the one with the second most attention to be a female (like they have for most of the history of the show)?
The in-show encounter wasn't the trigger for his goal, as he had already mentioned it. The movie changed that.Where does it ever state that the encounter was to be outside the show? Idk about you, but I clearly remember the Ho-oh encounter in the very first episode.
If anything, it only impacted the Japanese Arc (OS-DP)The in-show encounter wasn't the trigger for his goal, as he had already mentioned it. The movie changed that.
Not to mention that the show last referenced Ho-Oh in 2006. It didn't make that big an impact on the original Ash.
tbh, Ho-oh was just a marketing ploy, a hint for the Gen 2 games coming soon at the time. There were many hints to next gen games except for Gen 8, which got nothing. I expect that was done due to the original people that worked on the series standing down after SM.I feel that Houou was introduced in the first episode to have some sort of arc down the road, similar to what I Choose You had. However I never understood why it completely vanished afterwards and only appeared through cameos twice years later. Then completely forgotten again.
Also do you guys remember how Satoshi mistook Freezer for Houou in the second episode lol That was never brought up again too. There are other examples of possibly left out, or just ignored\unexplained, plots in Kanto that're not Houou related, like the gigantic Kairyu in the Masaki episode (which for some reason no one recognized it as a Kairyu).
Of course I'm not considering the ignored stuff as the Zukan's Pokemon transfering button or the levels.
I’d say that’s a bit of a stretch especially considering that the sport theme that’s being represented in SwSh is soccer, a popular sport in the UK in general and one that is co-ed especially compared to many other sportsI dunno, I guess it's the sports theme. Also it's compairing some of the past regions. Not what I have hoped. But since the bed has been made, I'd have to sleep in it.
To be fair, an anime with two male protagonists developing a close relationship will probably attractive for certain amount of female characters.The ratings even show that most that watch Pokemon are boys. SwSh also has a more masculine feel, and it seems like the new anime is also doing the same thing with the main cast of 2.
Considering how Gen II and Ho-Oh were revealed the same month the anime started airing, your theory might not be far from the truth.tbh, Ho-oh was just a marketing ploy, a hint for the Gen 2 games coming soon at the time. There were many hints to next gen games except for Gen 8, which got nothing. I expect that was done due to the original people that worked on the series standing down after SM.
I am not sure the sort of girls that watch yaoi are into Pokemon. Also, Ash and Gou are too young to be sexualized, they are only ten years old.To be fair, an anime with two male protagonists developing a close relationship will probably attractive for certain amount of female characters.
I've already said that you can't reach all female viewers (or all male viewers).Except not all female viewers are into yaoi, which itself is a sensitive topic.
There are yaoi fans that won't be stopped for that. In the same way, the female characters (10 years old too) in Pokemon had been sexualized.I am not sure the sort of girls that watch yaoi are into Pokemon. Also, Ash and Gou are too young to be sexualized, they are only ten years old.
Maybe not doom, but it certainly isn’t exactly giving very good implications towards the girls especially when you do have girls in the cast that you never really have them in any other roles than things that can be painted as more feminine.I highly doubt having two male protagonists in the anime is going to doom the franchise. I feel you're making a mountain out of a
I think we're forgetting that the female companions are geared towards male viewers in the first place. The director essentially referred to them as eye-candy. People should really relax, there will be plenty of female representation in this show, even if it's spread out across multiple characters. Not to mention that Gou isn't necessarily confirmed to be a travelling companion. He is one of the main characters. They could potentially go with a concurrent storyline and show how both these character's stories intertwine. They might even both have their own separate travelling companions.The ratings even show that most that watch Pokemon are boys. SwSh also has a more masculine feel, and it seems like the new anime is also doing the same thing with the main cast of 2.
The line about meeting a legendary Pokemon is definitely curious, but the art style and Rica's comments both imply a continuation of Sun and Moon. I'm split. Honestly I can see them retroactively inserting an origin story for Ash like this, in a similar way to how Serena/Ash's origin story was forced into existence in XY. That or they can backpedal and imply that Ash's encounter with Ho-oh in OS was more significant than it really was. It's also possible that they will try to blur the continuity, for example continue from SM but also make references to the events of M20. In my experience, Japanese writers tend to be less hung up over tightly-written continuity, and don't mind introducing massive plot holes.
What's the alternative, anyway? That the original Ash had a secret encounter before the show even started? That Ash's description was randomly changed? I don't find those options likely.
- The movie specifically retcons out the line where Ash declared that he'd become a Pokemon Master (right after watching TV).
- AU Ash first brings up his goal in the conversation where the group discuss Ho-Oh and Ash's encounter with it.
- When he loses to Cross, his main concern is Ho-Oh.
Is there confirmed to be more news next Sunday?I not saying that there won't be a Female Protagonist as well since we are in the early stages before Sunday.
I like the theory that the giant Dragonite was simply one of Giovanni's giant Pokemon robots from his park, implying Bill wasted half his life researching a theme park attraction.There are other examples of possibly left out, or just ignored\unexplained, plots in Kanto that're not Houou related, like the gigantic Kairyu in the Masaki episode (which for some reason no one recognized it as a Kairyu).
More info on the new anime will be in next week's Pokenchi.Is there confirmed to be more news next Sunday?
Honestly, anime OCs might be a good path to go as it causes their longevity to become less predictable. Previous girls could really only go as far as their generation stretched (Misty was the exception since at the time a female player character hadn’t existed until partly through Johto) but an anime OC could have much more staying power.I'm doubting that Gloria will appear now since Galar already has its representation. If it needs a Female Represantaton then they'lll create an anime-only character. So yeah you can say Gloria got hilda'd.