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Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl General Discussion

PkmnTrainerV

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It isn’t “mental gymnastics” lol. I think that’s a bit rude. I’m just explaining that the revenue they are receiving from both sets of games will be garnered at around the same time, so it makes sense to also compare them as a whole to other games when it comes to marketing cycles. It’s nothing like BW and BW2 because those games were not marketed and released anywhere near each other.
Sorry, I didn’t mean it in a rude way, didn’t think “mental gymnastics” was a rude phrase. I apologise for the confusion, but it’s weird to me since, while the income is garnered at around the same time; they take twice the amount of investment in budget; development and marketing as well. And they have twice the content of other main series games.
If we consider games as an experience, BDSP and LA would be two separate experiences and entries, and as such I don’t think just because they released together they can be compared to a single game/experience like ORAS in a 2vs1. ORAS would lose just because it’s a single game and not two entries.

I guess they could be taken together as a metric of “How much can Pokémon earn if they continuously churn out games?” But any comparison of both games combined against a single remake doesn’t work at all for all the reasons I’ve illustrated. Twice the budget, twice the content, entirely different material and not to mention the people who bought both games. BW and BW2 are the closest examples I could think of, while not a perfect analogy it works. BW and BW2 are separate games and their sales cannot be taken together; same goes for BDSP and LA. The time of release has no bearing on the external factors like that. Just because two games are releasing in close proximity doesn’t mean they get to “gang up” and combine their sales against other individual games xD (just to prevent confusion, “ganging up” is used as a metaphor and I don’t mean it in a serious sense).
 
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They literally said in the announcement/website that we could throw Pokeballs to capture Pokemon without battling them, but that we could also battle them before we catch them.
I meant that I don’t want to compare Let’s Go to LA right now due to the open world aspect. We also don’t know about the battle system or anything like that; whereas Let’s Go is mostly conservative other than the new capture method and some QOL stuff.
 

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Today is the release date of Pokémon UNITE. With it out of the way, let's hope the core games news drought will end soon.
 
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Today is the release date of Pokémon UNITE. With it out of the way, let's hope the core games news drought will end soon.

I think we get something next week. I would have expected something this week if Unite didn't release this week, but i think TPC doesn't want main series game related news overshadow Unite (It even got its own trailer).
 

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Today is the release date of Pokémon UNITE. With it out of the way, let's hope the core games news drought will end soon.

Until then, queue the infamous bulbagarden news drought meme:

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This has got to be the worst ever pre-release period for a core Pokemon game, surely? I'm optimistic about the game itself, especially now that we've caught a glimpse of the graphical improvements, but the marketing has been terrible. I'm sure things will pick up as we approach the release date, but my goodness have the past five months been boring and frustrating on the Pokemon front (in its 25th anniversary year, too).

The Pokemon Company seems confident that UNITE will keep fans sufficiently engaged for the time being, but for those of us who aren't that interested in mobile free-to-play games, this strategy has fallen flat. I'm glad that we've had two great songs by Katy Perry and Mabel to liven things up a bit.

I don't want to be an entitled fan - there's no rule saying that game developers have to release regular trailers for upcoming releases - I'm just excited about BDSP and eager to see more. I'm not even that bothered about info, I just want to see more footage and maybe hear a bit more of the soundtrack. Show us some more towns and routes, chibi Cyrus and Cynthia, Dialga and Palkia using their signature moves, anything!
 

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Like, I'm sure I'm still gonna enjoy it if it really is the untampered, 3D recreation that its seemingly shaping up to be. But it'll have as much of an aftertaste as something like Super Mario 3D Land; it works, its fun... but its ultimately nothing special or original at all.

And I don't want that AT ALL, but given the lack of... any news or changes other than graphical presentation; I don't see any reason to feel hyped as of now.
 

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Honestly, the marketing team has been stupid regarding BDSP, especially since it wouldn't harm Unite marketing-wise to reveal something new about BDSP since the games aren't even released.
Do we even know if GF has a marketing team?

And if they do, are they full-time marketing, or do they also do some side-coding for GF?

Marketing - just the psychology-major equivalent for the College of Business/Management.

How many months are there to the release of the remakes?
???
 

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It would be great if we could forego years of speculation about BW remakes after this experience. I think that young players deserve to play the old games in some shape or form, but we veterans should focus on Legends because at least it has the potential to surprise us. Just my two cents.
 

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The more time passes, the more it seems like a 1:1 recreation + QoL + maybe the obligatory mythical.

And this is my main concern, I hate these types of remakes, they're virtually pointless when you could just port the originals. Sadly, this kind of remake is a lot more common in the industry, there's so many remasters and 1:1 recreation remakes and I rarely see the kinds of improvements that Pokemon fans have been used to in remakes. The industry is bad enough about this, we don't need Pokemon to follow suit. When I see a remake, I want to see what the game would be like if it were made today, not as it was made back in the day with an HD coat of paint.
 
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