Bringing the Thunder
- Mar 20, 2013
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How come when someone says that BDSP are the worst games, worse than Platinum etc, no-one bats an eyelid, yet when someone praises BDSP and calls them the best games we've had in a while, they get rounded on with comments like "you haven't played the game yet", "that's a subjective opinion" etc? I can't help feeling like there are double standards in this thread.
It's because the people saying they're "best games" aren't really doing much to explain their opinions. If you really want your opinion not to be questioned, you have to provide detail on why you feel that way about the game, otherwise other people are going to think "Wait, you're not seeing the game the way I see the game?" and come out of the woodwork to debate it. Just stating what your opinion is is kind of hollow. Anyone can state that they like a game for any number of reasons, so just stating a verdict of "I like/don't like this" isn't very convincing. Supplementing your opinions with supporting evidence goes a lot further towards creating a stance on the games that other people can understand and sympathize with. Now that's not to say you're not allowed to have your opinion, but a weakly supported opinion tends to invite more criticism.
And what's especially not being done by the "best games" side of the debate is they're not comparing to other games and explaining what these games are doing better than others. Because if you're trying to claim a game is the best game, it's not enough to just say "I like X, Y, and Z" because "X, Y, and Z" could also be in another game, you have to explain "I like X, Y, and Z in this game better than A, B, and C in other games". This was the crux of my counterargument to @Boss1708, he did list a lot of features the games improved on, but in each of the individual points he mentioned I could basically say "But... other games did this too". So that's not really strong support in favor of these games being good games. From a logical standpoint, if you're going to identify a game as "best game" you need to be able to identify a quality that this game does that all other games do not. And that includes everything, the original DP, Platinum, other remakes, even other totally unrelated Pokemon games like new generations and third versions of different regions.
The problem is that what we know about this game and what we can see with our eyes definitely seems to support these games being not so great. Instead of having several qualities that make this better games than all other games, I'm seeing a lot more qualities that make this game worse than all other games (things like a refusal to update the graphical style to SwSh's style, a lack of new features, a lack of new Pokemon, etc.). So that makes the "these are good games" side a much tougher argument, and therefore it's a much less popular opinion. And unfortunately being a minority opinion means you'll have more critics, so it's an uphill battle.