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Exactly my point: Both games are "remakes," but looking at some people's standards of what a pokemon remake should keep/not have, Final Fantasy VII, by their standards, would not be a remake at all - but some completely new spinoff in the spirit of an older game.
I'm not really sure where you're getting at here. I'm not concerned with what the Pokemon fandom thinks. Whether or not a game is a remake is an objective standard. I'd be curious to hear other opinions on FFVII Remake with its changes, but this is not the time or place for that. I was only arguing that BD/SP are remakes and not remasters. It's a very simple case with BD/SP.