Fan backlash over art design grinds my gears (no klink stop not the move!) Let the devloper make the game the way they want it. Its like telling an artist to change their painting because you don't like it. I also feel it stifles creativity when things look realistic. I personally feel wind waker is much more alive than twilight princess, more expressions more colorful, cooler bosses and music. But because the fandom wanted fark and edgy we got twilight princess (which don't get me wrong I love it still a solid 8/10 for me) and It felt lifeless at times to me.
So while I definitely don’t mind the artistic choice as much as others that I’ve seen, I don’t think it being an artistic choice should make it immune to criticism. Let’s not forget that at the end of the day, they are developing a game for consumers and money. Therefore, if the majority of these consumers do not care for an artistic choice in the game to the point where they don’t buy it, that is 100% something the developer should be aware of and make changes based off of. Artists paint for themselves; not to please an audience (other than commissions).
Basically what you are saying is that we shouldn't criticize anything they do, even if we heavily disagree with some of their choices? Gotcha.
Yeah though changing the chibis isn't really possible though. They can polish up the visuals and make improvements (as we've seen) but they cannot change the visual art style without completely redoing the game (which isn't an option)
Whether they can change it or not doesn’t make it immune to being criticized. Besides, I don’t think most people here are saying that they must change BDSP at this stage. But people’s reaction to the chibi art style definitely should influence their future decisions and change things if necessary.
Seriously, we need more info on both games. We need to know if BDSP will have any new content. We need to know if any Pokemon will have new forms. We need to know what new QoL features it will have. We need to know if there will be Platinum content. We need to know if its simply a 1-for-1 remake with nothing new, which I hope not. And for Legends: Arceus, there's still many questions people have regarding this game. They need to show more to convince people to buy it. I'm sure they were waiting until the graphics were updated, but still, we haven't heard anything about it in 5 months and BDSP is 4 months away.
I meant when it came to Legends Arceus for convincing. When it comes to BDSP, the nostalgia factor alone will be enough for people to buy this game. Its just a matter of people wanting to know if it will have some new content or if its a 1-for-1 remake with no big changes.
ILCA literally stands for “I love computer art”. I’m pretty sure they know their way around artistic 3D designs. They also have plenty of experience with other games with more complex art styles. I don’t really think it’s fair to cite “cheap”ness as a factor either, considering we don’t know how wide the disparity in price between chibi and full-size models is or if there even is one.
Outside of Oras not much changed between gen 1 and 3 and 2 and 4. It was still top down sprite based and with similar layouts all still in 2d (gen 4 had some models for buildings I think but most of it was 2d). This is in terms of region layout btw, art style wise a lot did change but not so much that the games layout would be very different. Lets go and oras do keep their original layout so its possible that bdsp could have too in swsh art style not arguing that.
Not that they can't be criticized but that we should respect the devlopers vision for the game. If something is objectively bad (poor pacing, terrible plot, bad gameplay, bad music etc.) Then by all means let them know what could have been better. Art style is more subjective, I may have loved wind wakers art style but plenty of people hated it, does that make the game good or bad? Different people have different views on the same thing. When it comes to Pokemon theres so many people in the fandom that trying to listen to them all is impossible, they'll do one thing to make fans happy, only to piss off another set of fans in the same game.
Isn’t this all subjective, except for pacing? Music is art too, so going by your definition it would be wrong to criticise it. Same goes for the plot of the game, and the gameplay being a manifestation of the developer's vision.
Music yeah you're right, when I say bad music I mean doesn't fit well with the mood of the scenes, kind of like playing a slow song during a hype moment, thats how I felt about the elevator music in swsh on our way to find Leon, it felt off, the track itself was good. Plot can be bad, like Olena randomly showing up outside the hotel room with ESP that we were on our way to find Leon, and proceeding to hand a key over to an employee and dipping instead of just...not showing up to confront us at all.
