BDSP Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl General Discussion

[Alola]

A link to the Cynthia case in question.

While I'm still a bit skeptical on BDSP's teams, I don't think this was coincidental. Cynthia's Platinum team is my favorite Champion team, even if battling them can be nightmarish, so I really hope this is an indication of what's to come in a couple weeks.

 

[Puddle]

If Cynthia is using Togekiss, maybe I'm wrong about the DP Pokedex. We've seen Candice and Volkner using Abomasnow and Luxray respectively, but this doesn't necessarily confirm that those are their aces.

I find it hard to believe that the Platinum Pokedex will return in its original form, though, because of its unintuitive numbering system and inclusion of Giratina (a Pokemon that will most likely be postgame-only in BDSP). A completely overhauled Sinnoh Pokedex is a possibility, but would they be willing to diverge from the classic games to that extent? No remake thus far has made significant changes to the Pokedex listing.

Maybe we could be looking at an ORAS situation where the National Pokedex is given to you before the Pokemon League, meaning that the Elite Four and Cynthia have their Platinum teams while the Gym Leaders do not?

 

[pokepal_123]

In the anime Volkner used his Platinum team and Luxray was still his ace so I don't see how that means anything with regards to which teams they will use.

Abamasnow and Luxray are associated with Candice and Volkner respectively, there's no reason why they would Froslass or Electivire even though they are technically their highest levelled in Pt.

 

[pokepal_123]

Another thing, looks like Room's secret room will be in BDSP, in the trailer we can see that there is an empty space in exactly the position as Platinum where the room would be. The layout of the room is changed from DP with the tree removed and a bookshelf added next to it. This is significant as the layouts so far have been 1:1 to DP even down to the minute details.

This was spotted by a user on Reddit.

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In this video you can see that the position of the empty space is exactly the same in BDSP.

Pokemon Platinum - Rotom Form Change

Obtaining the Secret Key and changing Rotom's form

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[Puddle]

Another thing, looks like Room's secret room will be in BDSP, in the trailer we can see that there is an empty space in exactly the position as Platinum where the room would be. The layout of the room is changed from DP with the tree removed and a bookshelf added next to it. This is significant as the layouts so far have been 1:1 to DP even down to the minute details.

This was spotted by a user on Reddit.

Reddit - Dive into anything

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In this video you can see that the position of the empty space is exactly the same in BDSP.

Pokemon Platinum - Rotom Form Change

Obtaining the Secret Key and changing Rotom's form

m.youtube.com

I'm really pleased about Rotom's room coming back, as long as Rotom's forms aren't event-only like they were in Platinum.

Regarding things like the Pokedex and Gym Leader teams, and all of the game's unrevealed content really, I'm planning to go completely spoiler-free on release day (or prior that, if there's a leak) so I can enjoy discovering those things for myself. I want to go up against Cynthia while thinking to myself, "I wonder if she'll use Gastrodon? Or will it be Togekiss?" It'll make the experience that little bit more exciting.

 

[FelipePR]

Sword and Shield definitely didn't take it into account given how extremely easy it is to get overleveled. And that's not even touching pokemon camp, pokemon candies and the other ways to get experience points.

I get a lot of people don't like grinding, but the 3D games have gone in the opposite direction. Making the games faster and faster by overleveling you.

- You are right, It is easy to get overleveled in Pokemon Sword and Shield. However, this is more related to other mechanics than the All Experience Share thing. The Exp. Share mechanic, I think, was taken in account.

 

[Esserise]

Hey speaking of Cynthia's Togekiss, someone want to explain to me why she runs Hustle on it despite having no physical attacks? Rookie mistake there, C.

(Opal's Togekiss in SwSh has the same deal, but coming from SwSh I get it since those games were baby level. But Platinum's the game that throws a Hail-prepped Snow Cloak Froslass with Double Team and 100% accurate Blizzard at you without a shred of mercy. Did the Platinum devs go soft in the last stretch?)

(Honestly it makes no difference to me whether Cynthia uses Gastrodon or Togekiss; when it comes to DP teams versus Platinum I'm really only curious to see if Flint goes for the meme team. Volkner unironically running Octillery is a move that earns my respect, and with Candice, I think there was no way they were going to chuck the aforementioned assault mode Froslass at players of these games.)

No, some things are just objectively "not the best," and I'm being kind. This is not the style fans had in mind even for the 3DS.

I mean, the chibi models look a bit weird/gooey, but otherwise I think BDSP's overworld looks fuggin clean, and definitely better than Let's Go, SwSh, or Arceus.

 

[Daren]

Hey speaking of Cynthia's Togekiss, someone want to explain to me why she runs Hustle on it despite having no physical attacks? Rookie mistake there, C.

I think I read recently that AI trainers' Pokémon in gen 4 only ever have the first ability in that species' slots. Could be misremembering though.

 

[Silktree]

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She only had a Snover in DP. Case pretty much closed, except there could be an exception or two like Clair's Gyarados and Glacia's Froslass.

I also find the use of Chimchar funny because people keep saying that the absence of the evolved "Hisui" starters in Legends trailers is suspicious. It's par for the course.

 

[RavenRaziel98]

Three weeks left til release
Does anyone know how long it takes to find a list of all available moves after the games release?

 

[Fairy Type Arceus]

I legit want to know what was going through game freaks mind when they made Diamond and pearl in the first place.

"Ok we have an ice type gym leader what should we put on her team?"

"Medicham"

"But we still have Glaceon and Frosslass, two Pokemon we made for this game"

"Nah"

"Ok but what about weavile instead of sneasel we just gave it an ev..."

"Nah its ugly and its going on Cyrus team"

"Yeah about cyrus what happens to him after he walks away from spear pillar?"

"Cy...who? Get out of my office."

 

[Alola]

I don't think Pokémon species should ever be locked behind the post-game like they did in the initial games for Johto and Sinnoh; I'm glad they've largely dropped that design with the recent Generations. I remember as a kid being psyched at all of the new Pokémon to own & discover after I beat Pearl...but then not really having much of a use for them afterwards.

 

[RavenRaziel98]

I don't think Pokémon species should ever be locked behind the post-game like they did in the initial games for Johto and Sinnoh; I'm glad they've largely dropped that design with the recent Generations. I remember as a kid being psyched at all of the new Pokémon to own & discover after I beat Pearl...but then not really having much of a use for them afterwards.

Yeah, especially since there was the lack of fire types in the original D/P

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

RE: all the artistic choices. I don’t know if it’s just me, or these artistic choices happen to kick in when they nearly cut the effort to execute the game in half or just allow them to copy paste their earlier work. How hard could have it been to add remixed music?

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

I am aware that there are people who don't like that you can't turn off the EXP. Share. Here's an idea: You don't HAVE to win every fight. I'm sure there will be trainers that you can skip. I don't really care as much. Also, I think Game Freak is doing this because they want kids to be able to have. Not everyone plays games for the challenge.

... What is easier? Giving back players an option they already used to have in the first place or literally have players skip and purposefully lose fights because they weren’t bothered enough to balance the game around the Exp. share?

It's a kid friendly game so they don't want to show a chemical plant because of pollution implications.

Well these are the same games that show graveyards and emotional child abuse?

I've seen a few news outlets claiming that BDSP will have "placeholder music" which requires a patch on release day. Personally though, I believe the MIDI-like soundtrack is an artistic choice designed to replicate the feel of the original games, much like the chibi art style.

I honestly don’t know. It’s a weird pattern of going to the choice that takes the least effort and calling it an artistic choice. Why not again, make it an optional mode like the earlier games?

My point here is the idea that everyone would be satisfied if it were still optional is simply wrong.

What? Let me give you two options. Having a light be switched on permanently, and giving you a light switch that you can use on your own free will. Which do you think will help more people?

 

[Kit Chan]

A link to the Cynthia case in question.

While I'm still a bit skeptical on BDSP's teams, I don't think this was coincidental. Cynthia's Platinum team is my favorite Champion team, even if battling them can be nightmarish, so I really hope this is an indication of what's to come in a couple weeks.

I'm unable to check as the website is blocking me and saying my browser is making odd behavior (firefox), but I seem to recall it being a licensed third party case. It could be the third party put the platinum team by mistake.

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Spoiler: New footage of important characters

 

[Kallyle]

Spoiler: New footage of important characters

Is there anything interesting in their dialogue? Or is it just the same DP dialogue? I can’t read Japanese. XD

 

[Sakuraa]

The Galactic commanders look so cute as 3D chibis

 

[colours]

The Galactic commanders look so cute as 3D chibis

the more i see the chibis in this game the more im starting to love it lmao they're all so adorable!!