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Pokémon Evolution/Capture/Release Thread

Garren

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Man, I like Kurumiru (Hahakomori was my first Shiny!), but there are so many other cooler bugs this Gen to go with...I was hoping for a Kaburumo with a shell fetish myself. :(

And yeah, I don't think it's from the egg. I guess Zuruggu is in the egg (and Iris gets it, for some reason), Kurumiru is caught in the woods near Shippou like in the games, and the Meguroc seen in the art for 120 is that one Meguroc who had his sunglasses stolen by the Koaruhie. Hey, they stole Ash's hat, so maybe they're...

...Kleptomaniquacks
 

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well it could help deal with shooti's water pokemon if it learns some special attacks, bug opposistion would be nice as it could weaken it's moves several to the point where cursed body wouldn't matter.
 

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Ash get Kurumiru? Thank god we don't have another grass lady on Ash's roster cause this would feel redundant... Oh wait...

Meh... hopefully, it'll be the new Butterfree, quickly evolved, quickly gone.

Oh look a contradiction. Hellion wanted something unpredictable to happen, and look he doesn't like the unpredictable thing that's likely to happen.


And yeah, I don't think it's from the egg. I guess Zuruggu is in the egg (and Iris gets it, for some reason), Kurumiru is caught in the woods near Shippou like in the games,

I don't know. It makes more sense that the egg is Meguroco, and then Ash catches Kurumiru later and it's oaked. If Ash actually does have a Meguroco and it wasn't some sketch of a random scared Meguroco.

2 captures of this kind (wildcard kind) so close together within a span of 5 episodes? I don't know. I get the feeling the egg is hatching in BW014, and I'm not sure Zuruggu would make sense in that episode. There's also the possibility of it hatching in BW013, since that's around the time of the egg game event.

So let's look at our options:

1. Ash catches Sunglasses Meguroco then a few episodes later catches Kurumiru (and is oaked).

2. Ash catches Kurumiru in BW016-17, and Ash catches SG Meguroco between BW018-19. Ash for some odd reason oaks Kurumiru in favor of Meguroco by BW020.

3. Egg hatches to Meguroco between BW013-BW015. Ash catches Kurumiru between BW015-BW019.

With all we know, Option 3 makes the most logical sense. Option one makes the second most logical sense, and two doesn't make much sense at all. And the way it's phrased too, makes it seem as though Ash catches Kurumiru real soon, I mean right after his gym battle. So again the 3rd option does make the most logical sense. Considering I can't see them throwing in SG Meguroco by BW020 (especially so soon before or after Kurumiru). But Ash having a hatched Meguroco and then a Kurumiru later does seem a bit more believable since he would technically already have it, it just needs to hatch.

Of course we could be wrong about Meguroco and Ash only catches Kurumiru at this moment in time.

But I just realized if Ash is oaking a Pokemon, we might be able to see all of Ash's Pokemon at Oak's ranch.

At least now, Koaruhie isn't happening. If Ash really is getting Kurumiru and isn't some word trick to make us think he's getting it but isn't, and he actually does, Koaruhie just isn't likely at all.

well it could help deal with shooti's water pokemon if it learns some special attacks, bug opposistion would be nice as it could weaken it's moves several to the point where cursed body wouldn't matter.

Well Denchura would've made more sense, as Ghost types resist bug, and being part electric would've helped Ash against Pururill.

But I guess a Hahakurimo won't be that bad of a replacement, even though Aianto would've been preferable as it brought something new to Ash's plate, and Denchura simply to give Ash another Electric Type (and because its my favorite Pokemon). But I guess its the writer's choice and I guess I can live with it.

Edit: *FACE PALMS* Right sorry forgot about Kurumiru's grass typing but in order for it to effective against Pururill it would have to at least know energy ball. Or any other grass type move that's special and Snivy doesn't know.
 
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I do hope Kurumiru won't be a Krabby situation and we actually see Ash battling with it later down the road. At least way before the league for screentime purposes. That's what I wanted for the wildcards, their screentime is equal so we don't get any more Gibles, Krabbys, etc.

Besides, Krabby to Kingler in the league was okay but Kurumiru evolving twice to Hahakurimo? Yeah, it needs to travel with Ash a bit before hand. I would say after Meguroko gains confidence and evolves. Then Ash switches it for Kurumiru to do something he needs a bug for. Then it evolves all the way.

With Kurumiru on board, I'm not sure about Snivy evolving all the way (at this point, I may change my mind once we see more of what happens with these captures). So my new guess for Ash:

- Pikachu
- Daikenki
- Kenhorou
- Janovy
- Chaobuu
- Hahakurimo
- Waruvile -> Waruvial (evolves before the league a la Quilava)
 

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Oh look a contradiction. Hellion wanted something unpredictable to happen, and look he doesn't like the unpredictable thing that's likely to happen.

While, I'm somewhat indifferent to this new development..the writers could have easily given Ash the Pokemon I meantioned...Gothimu, or Ranpuraa.. I mean, Kurumiru is another GRASS based Pokemon.
 

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*shrugs* I don't really mind at all, as it can beat up shooti's starter and his water type.

I do wonder though if it'll effect Snivy's development though, be kinda weird if Snivy didn't evolve while this thing went all the way but hey i've seen worse.
 

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Oh look a contradiction. Hellion wanted something unpredictable to happen, and look he doesn't like the unpredictable thing that's likely to happen.

Both Kurumiru and Megurocco were revealed before BW was released. Go back a few dozen pages and there are people who thought Ash would catch one or both of them.

I don't like or dislike this new developpement. Hopefully it gets a nice little developpement, evolves fully quickly, then gets Butterfree'd across the ocean or something. Design and type wise, there's nothing it can bring to the table that Snivy can't. So yeah... at this point, unless it has a mindblowing personality and some unique trait that really sets it apart, I remain unenthused.

Though still better than Ash getting a really meh pokémon like Denchura ;)

I don't know. It makes more sense that the egg is Meguroco, and then Ash catches Kurumiru later and it's oaked.

Actually, it makes more sense that the egg is Zuruggu, that it goes to Iris. Ash catches Kurumiru, it stays with Ash for 15-20 episodes or so, fully evolves and gets released/oaked.

So let's look at our options:

4. Megurocco is a wild pokémon, stays wild, Ash doesn't catch it, Ash doesn't get any Megurocco... ever.
 

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Wha? This doesn't make sense, didn't we see a calendar with Meguroco on it? I thought that would signify it going to Ash...or maybe another main character.

I mean, Kurumiru looks all right, but Hahakomori looks like a grass version of Lopbunny...something that I never want to see Ash with.

Though still better than Ash getting a really meh pokémon like Denchura ;)

Denchura is my favorite pokemon of BW design wise; I'd prefer it MILES over Lady Leaf :mad:
 

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if shooti didn't have such a cheap water pokemon on his team, i'd object to this, but as long as he has that thing, Ash is going to need more pokemon to take it down since it currently is the biggest threat Ash knows shooti has.

plus, unlike jouto we're at least getting a dual type out of the deal that doesn't copy Ash's current grass starter(albeit could effect the growth of said starter.), where as chikorita was nothing but a poor bulbaclone for it's run, it's crush on Ash was the only aspect that made it stand out.
 

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4. Megurocco is a wild pokémon, stays wild, Ash doesn't catch it, Ash doesn't get any Megurocco... ever.

Explain this then
Ensky+Pokemon+Keshipoke+BW+1.jpg

I think that Ash will obtain Meguroko first and then catch Kurumiru a couple episodes later if he is indeed catching it with the caterpillar getting oak'd. I do hope that we see it again before the league though.
 

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I do not believe that Ash is getting that bug, I think its a mistake on the site.

As seen the other toy ad has Ash's croc there which is much more likely. They advertising those toys as Ash's BW team, no bug there at all.
 

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I do not believe that Ash is getting that bug, I think its a mistake on the site.

As seen the other toy ad has Ash's croc there which is much more likely. They advertising those toys as Ash's BW team, no bug there at all.

Gible was advertised in a similar way if i'm not mistaken, and low and behold he ended up getting one.
 

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Gible was advertised in a similar way if i'm not mistaken, and low and behold he ended up getting one.

That toy was shown with Ash's DP Pokemon at the time, wasn't it?

I mean we see specific adverts as the croc being Ash's 6th poke, so I really don't see how Ash can capture anything else just to get rid of it somehow fast.

Also they would have to show Oak's lab, Best Wishes fresh start makes me think we won't see anything of knowing Ash has, "older pokemon" for a long time.
 

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That toy was shown with Ash's DP Pokemon at the time, wasn't it?

to my recolection, no it was not. gible was stated by toy sites to be caught by Ash, and then what's his name from jouto came along and grabbed one making everyone think the site had jumped the gun, but roughly ten episodes later what they said came to pass.

If a toy site says someone's getting something, i'd say that they are probably getting it wether we like it or not.
 

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It does not make sense. Maybe its Dento's bug, he could use a third Pokemon since Iris will have three soon.

Plus its evo's would fit Dento better, plus its green.
 

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Both Kurumiru and Megurocco were revealed before BW was released. Go back a few dozen pages and there are people who thought Ash would catch one or both of them.

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Really even though Ash caught a Snivy it was still possible. Like I said certain Pokemon aren't on my list because they are redundant. Since Snivy is a 5th gen Pokemon it's rather redundant to have another same type from same gen typing. Gliscor was excusable since it didn't even use any flying type moves. But Snivy is a main Pokemon.

Type wise, there's nothing it can bring to the table that Snivy can't. So yeah
I don't recall Snivy being part bug nor do I recall it having a bug move in its move set.

Though still better than Ash getting a really meh pokémon like Denchura ;)
Where's the rolling of eyes emoticon when you need one.

Actually, it makes more sense that the egg is Zuruggu, that it goes to Iris. Ash catches Kurumiru, it stays with Ash for 15-20 episodes or so, fully evolves and gets released/oaked.
Why would it make more sense, unless... oh wait....

4. Megurocco is a wild pokémon, stays wild, Ash doesn't catch it, Ash doesn't get any Megurocco... ever.

Sketches in BW020, no wild Pokemon and Ash have ever been that close before. Not even Hippopotas for example clung to Ash's leg when it was scared.

Not to mention this appears to be happening in the beginning of the episode. What is BW020 a direct continuation of BW019. It also looks like Ash is training Meguroco too.

A hatched Meguroco really makes the most sense giving what we know.

Wha? This doesn't make sense, didn't we see a calendar with Meguroco on it? I thought that would signify it going to Ash...or maybe another main character.
I think you mean the toy thing with pretty much Ash's team on it with the added Meguroco, however I'll get back to this with Gliscor'd's post.

I mean, Kurumiru looks all right, but Hahakomori looks like a grass version of Lopbunny...something that I never want to see Ash with.
I don't know if I can agree, when it was first being described it was a "girl in a dress" except honestly it look too much like an alien to be a "girl" Pokemon as well as the fact that it can be of either gender.

Denchura is my favorite pokemon of BW design wise; I'd prefer it MILES over Lady Leaf :mad:
LOL. I agree.

I do not believe that Ash is getting that bug, I think its a mistake on the site.
It's entirely possible, but it looks like he's getting one. Someone will have to check that site more.

As seen the other toy ad has Ash's croc there which is much more likely. They advertising those toys as Ash's BW team, no bug there at all.

Bringing back to my earlier quote with Comanderpigg, what some of you are missing the purpose of the the toy thing, is that it says Meguroco is Ash's 6th Pokemon right after all his other 5 Pokemon.

But keep in mind, that is what it is most likely Ash's 6th Pokemon. Kurumiru would then be Ash's 7th Pokemon, why would Kurumiru be on the toy thing if it was just going to get oaked right after being caught? And it would be Ash's seventh Pokemon total of his Unova team (including Pikachu).

That's why the egg being Zuruggu doesn't make any sense. No matter how you try to justify it. If Ash is getting Kurumiru soon after BW015, how do you explain Meguroco which seems to be implied as being obtained first as well as being Ash's preferred choice? Since well Kurumiru has to be oaked.

It seems too unlikely for Ash to get Sunglasses Meguroco just right before Kurumiru, it seems too crowded. And again as I said, if the egg is Meguroco then at least there's the possibility of a gym battle separated the two events, instead of directly pulling a Krabby with its capture like right after Squirtle's capture.

And secondly, I don't know why most of you are so intent that the egg is Zuruggu. Honestly how does that make even more sense than Meguroco? And no, I don't give a rat's behind about egg color scheme. If it really was going to be a Zuruggu egg or even remotely like the eggs in the past, the egg wouldn't look so damn boring and generic. Hell Phanpy's egg was only one color but it was less generic looking than the egg Ash has. Eevee only has two colors and yet it's egg had more pizazz than the egg Ash has.
 

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I just remembered...wasn't the whole Meguroko toy for Ash stated to be released around December? And now we have a toy coming up for Ash's Kurumiru.

Now I know it's not totally reflective but you'd think that if Zuruggu was going to be in the party soon, we'd get to hear about it through toys and merchandise. It seems to me, imo, that we would see Meguroko and Kurumiru first.

This isn't confirmation for who's in the egg and all. However, it is something to take note of because it might be something that could help find out which pokemon will be seen in the group.
 

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^a friend of mine did point out that even if Zuruggu was in the BW20 sketches, being in one solitary sketch doesn't necessarly mean Iris is getting it.

He could've been right about that.
 

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Really even though Ash caught a Snivy it was still possible.

I'm not saying it was the most predictable move, but hey giving Ash a team full of pre-revealed pokémon isn't exactly breaking the mold.

I don't recall Snivy being part bug nor do I recall it having a bug move in its move set.

I don't recall caring. Similar design and both are grass types... meh...

Why would it make more sense, unless... oh wait....

Because the color of the egg match and that Iris is shown next to egg in a picture, then next to a Zuruggu in sketches.

Sketches in BW020, no wild Pokemon and Ash have ever been that close before. Not even Hippopotas for example clung to Ash's leg when it was scared.

It's not as though Ash held it in its arms in that one episode... sorry your point?
 

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I just remembered...wasn't the whole Meguroko toy for Ash stated to be released around December? And now we have a toy coming up for Ash's Kurumiru.

Now I know it's not totally reflective but you'd think that if Zuruggu was going to be in the party soon, we'd get to hear about it through toys and merchandise. It seems to me, imo, that we would see Meguroko and Kurumiru first.

This isn't confirmation for who's in the egg and all. However, it is something to take note of because it might be something that could help find out which pokemon will be seen in the group.

Well I don't know, the advertisers seem more intent on showcasing Mogrew, I don't know if we've ever had any merchandise on Doryuzu, and Ishizumai as well, so I don't know if it really means anything. But I see your point, I mean Zuruggu is happening most likely in February, that I guess it would make sense that Iris wouldn't get anything any time soon.

So in that essence, it would make more sense that the egg hatches into Meguroco.

I just remembered...wasn't the whole Meguroko toy for Ash stated to be released around December? And now we have a toy coming up for Ash's Kurumiru.

Now I know it's not totally reflective but you'd think that if Zuruggu was going to be in the party soon, we'd get to hear about it through toys and merchandise. It seems to me, imo, that we would see Meguroko and Kurumiru first.

This isn't confirmation for who's in the egg and all. However, it is something to take note of because it might be something that could help find out which pokemon will be seen in the group.

Similar design and both are grass types... meh...
Since when is a Catepillar that evolves into a "bipedal alien" anywhere close to a snake?


Because the color of the egg match
And I here I thought Zuruggu was yellow, not tan or dark orange.

and that Iris is shown next to egg in a picture
And Oshawott is seen next to Dento in the sketches, your point.

then next to a Zuruggu in sketches.
As Ash6k pointed out, no Zuruggu merchandise at all. Hell it doesn't even appear in those anime like calendar pictures at all. But Meguroco and Kurumiru are. Yep Calendar pictures prove it for me, Iris isn't getting until February or March. I'm sure the egg hatches before then.



That was at what point in the episode? Like oh right, after Ash almost decided to catch it. Ash is holding Meguroco in the sketches in what appears to be the beginning of the episode. Fail to see the point of it being wild in that case.
 
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