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Pokémon Evolution/Capture/Release Thread

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I expect no Mega for ash. He has greninja... basically a mega

"Basically a Mega" =/= a true Mega. I think the fact that Greninja's transformation doesn't require a Key Stone/Mega Stone should make that clear. :x
 

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Prediction time for Ash
Pikachu - Same moves, no evolution but low chance of learning Wild Charge.
Greninja - Night Slash, Water Shruiken, Aerial Ace and Ice Beam/Hydro Pump.
Talonflame - Flamethrower, Solar Beam, Brave Bird and Razor Wind.
Hawlucha - Flying Press, High Jump Kick, Bounce and Sky Attack.
Noivern - Steel Wing, Boom Burst, Dragon Pulse and Hurricune.
6th capture - Skiddo, Klefki, Carbink, Honedge, Pantump, Bergmite or Espurr.
if there any few more Arcs after the Team Flair Arc & before the Kalos League most likey Ash end up catch & evolve more Pokémon.
 

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"Basically a Mega" =/= a true Mega. I think the fact that Greninja's transformation doesn't require a Key Stone/Mega Stone should make that clear. :x
But it isnt a requirement to have Ash get a "true mega"
 

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I am perfectly accepting of Ash not getting a sixth Pokemon and instead rotating out the opening with his already captured Pokemon.
 

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I expect this at the Kalos League with Charizard appearing as Ash's Mega most likely.

No. Charizard needs to stay at the lab. Ash can use a previous pokemon like Glalie to mega evolve but he has Ash-Greninja anyway.
 

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No. Charizard needs to stay at the lab. Ash can use a previous pokemon like Glalie to mega evolve but he has Ash-Greninja anyway.
Glalie mega evolution doesn't make as much sense though honestly. One of the key components for Mega Evolution is a close bond, though Ash doesn't have a ridiculously strong bond with Glalie, like he has with Charizard.
 

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Glalie mega evolution doesn't make as much sense though honestly. One of the key components for Mega Evolution is a close bond, though Ash doesn't have a ridiculously strong bond with Glalie, like he has with Charizard.

Ash has a strong bond with all his pokemon. Besides Mewtwo and Diancie didn't even need a trainer or keystone to mega evolve. Like I said, Ash-Greninja is the pokemon that he would use to counter mega pokemon.
 

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If producers decide to give a mega evolution to Ash and if they actually consider it to use another Pokémon than Charizard, that would be the biggest failure of the Kalos saga imo.
 

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If producers decide to give a mega evolution to Ash and if they actually consider it to use another Pokémon than Charizard, that would be the biggest failure of the Kalos saga imo.

No it wouldn't. Any pokemon used as a mega is better than seeing the return of the constant Charizard. Nothing wrong with Mega Glalie, Mega Heracross or a mega for a gen 6 pokemon.
 

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Ash has a strong bond with all his pokemon. Besides Mewtwo and Diancie didn't even need a trainer or keystone to mega evolve. Like I said, Ash-Greninja is the pokemon that he would use to counter mega pokemon.

He obviously has the Ash-Greninja as a substitute for a Mega and a counter for Mega Evolution. He's probably not gonna get a Mega before the league, but we don't know if it will happen or not down the line.

Also, honestly I feel like Pikachu and Charizard are on a whole different level compared to Squirtle, Talonflame, Heracross, or anyone. You obviously don't want to see Ash's Charizard return and get a Mega, but that doesn't mean its not possible like you insist.
 
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I don't see why Mega Charizard Y hasn't been showcased yet if it isn't being reserved for Ash. Even its existence is a secret in-story judging from the way Mega Charizard X is just referred to as "Mega Charizard".
 

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We don't need to see Mega Charizard Y. One mega Charizard is enough and Alain or Trevor can always showcase it.
 

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I don't see why Mega Charizard Y hasn't been showcased yet if it isn't being reserved for Ash. Even its existence is a secret in-story judging from the way Mega Charizard X is just referred to as "Mega Charizard".
Yes, because Ash was given a basically different brand of Mega Evolution in form of Ash-Greninja so writers could go ahead and give him an actual Mega Evolution anyway? I thought it was pretty obvious that Greninja is going to be Ash's "Mega Evolution" for this saga. If Ash is going to get Charizard Y then Ash-Greninja is pointless.

Besides, if Charizard Y was going to make an appearance we surely would have seen it on the poster of XY&Z. Not to mention the poor treatment Charizard Y has been getting anyway (everyone seems to advertise Charizard X more and push it into spotlight) so perhaps Gamefreak just doesn't care about the vastly less popular Mega Charizard??
 

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Mega Charizard Y is very underrated honestly and it would seem like Gamefreak doesn't care as much. Mega Charizard X is in Smash, Alain has it, and it was introduced in Origins. Mega Charizard Y has yet to see an anime debut, though I don't see why it shouldn't. If Ash's was ever to Mega Evolve, it would be nice to see the Y form through this.
 

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I thought it was pretty obvious that Greninja is going to be Ash's "Mega Evolution" for this saga. If Ash is going to get Charizard Y then Ash-Greninja is pointless.
How would it be rendered pointless? It is getting its screentime before the league and will probably prove itself against Alain. Whatever happens later on won't change that.

Besides, if Charizard Y was going to make an appearance we surely would have seen it on the poster of XY&Z.
The poster has nothing to do with the league. By your logic, Ash won't even have a sixth member or use any reserves.

Not to mention the poor treatment Charizard Y has been getting anyway (everyone seems to advertise Charizard X more and push it into spotlight) so perhaps Gamefreak just doesn't care about the vastly less popular Mega Charizard??
Mega Charizard Y hasn't been ignored by the games, TCG or merchandise. Why should the anime be any different?
 

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I don't think Ash should bring back Charizard. He hasn't even got a keystone and mega stone for it. Ash-Greninja is his version of mega evolution and I prefer it that way. Glalie and Heracross have just as much right to mega evolve as Charizard and I rather have them if Ash ever gets a keystone. Trevor can use Mega Charizard Y if the writers choose to let him have it. But since Alain is the only one to have Charizard in his team currently, it makes sense for him to use Y if the writers choose to let use it. But we don't need to see the Y version anyway as it is almost the same as regular Charizard. At least with X, you can tell how different it is and it is more appealing. I don't know if Ash would battle Alain again after the first battle with him but I don't think he will in my opinion.
 

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How would it be rendered pointless? It is getting its screentime before the league and will probably prove itself against Alain. Whatever happens later on won't change that.
It's pointless because why give Ash a pseudo Mega Evolution in the first place if he's going to get the real thing? What is the logic behind that?

The poster has nothing to do with the league. By your logic, Ash won't even have a sixth member or use any reserves.
I wasn't aware you were talking about the League. Still think it's unlikely by the very presence of Ash-Greninja.

Mega Charizard Y hasn't been ignored by the games, TCG or merchandise. Why should the anime be any different?
Because it doesn't make sense from a storytelling point.

I would have no problem with this idea if Ash-Greninja wasn't already a thing.

I just don't see the logic in giving Ash what is basically a different kind of Mega Evolution if he was going to get the real thing later on. What would be the point of that? And if Ash was getting Charizard Y it surely would have been pitted against Alain's Charizard X. The anime instead has X battle Ash-Greninja.
 
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