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Pokémon Evolution/Capture/Release Thread

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I think the biggest issue I have with Gou catching Skwovet isn’t anything to do with Gou himself or how he caught it but how the writers arbitrarily forced it into the episode. Honestly that’s my biggest issue with Gou. It’s that the writers treat his captures so mindlessly and carelessly but for some reason put so much effort into having Gou project this goal (a poorly defined one) while having the more interesting parts of his character (like his problems with making friends and his insecurities regarding that) get shoved to the back burner. And it’s only him these captures are happening to. Putting Dragonite aside, this very episode demonstrated they can have a quick (possible?) capture and still have it be cute and funny. For Gou’s however (minus Scorbunny), they’ve been strangely determined to spend as less time and effort as possible on them. If the writers slowed down the pace of his captures, made him work for them, and allowed Gou to spend more time with them, I feel like Gou would be much better received. I’m also really hoping the upcoming Cubone episode moves his captures to being less of the former and more of the latter.

Also I don’t think Skwovet’s capture is as bad as people are making it out to be. If it were sitting on the ground or in a tree eating a nut, I’d be more inclined to agree but as the scene goes, it’s more like when you’re talking to a friend when a seagull steals something off your plate. I honestly think the Wurmple capture, the Stantler and Misdreavous capture, and how Dewgong’s disappearance was handled way worse (Unless the writers refer back to it for development purposes, I will die on the hill that Gou not being concerned that Dewgong was lost is OOC writing.)

Then there's his proclamations of wanting to catch every Pokemon (and that includes legendaries like Ho-oh) which pretty much either makes him really ignorant and stupid, or just flat out inconsiderate.
Or it could be overexcitement and cockiness. Personally overexcitement’s both my main and linked to several of my personal theories and headcanons for Gou.
 
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Ash caught Starly to find Pikachu. Does it make Ash selfish, too?
1. Starly was given enough time to process it was being captured, unlike the poor Tailow.
2. Starly ended up being one of the heavy hitters of Ash's team and had a lot to it’s personality, as contrasted by the Tailow who was used to capture Wurmple and never seen again.
 
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1. Starly was given enough time to process it was being captured, unlike the poor Tailow.
2. Starly ended up being one of the heavy hitters of Ash's team and had a lot to it’s personality, as contrasted by the Tailow who was used to capture Wurmple and never seen again.
1. The goal was the same - to capture. I don't see why it matters how long it took before catching it.
2. It is something that happened after catching it. Ash may have as well let it go or done whatever he felt like. So my point stll stands.

Honestly all the complains and accusations regarding Gou's captures feel overwhelmingly pointless to me. I mean, what was different in the past 20 years when people played the games and caught every species in order to fill the Pokédex, or when they played the Let's Go/Go games and caught the same species several times to gain candies and such. But when an anime character does the same, it suddenly becomes something unacceptable. I never get that exeggerated reaction toward Gou.
 
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If you don't want to read the stuff that other people put forward regarding Gou criticism then please don't presume your word is final and then put words in people's mouths.
Haha, okay. I won't express myself ever again then, although my attitude is very clearly stated to be my personal opinion rather than presuming my word is final. Funny that comes from someone who falsely accused me of being Serena hater back then just because I said I wouldn't expect to see a special with Serena involved.

Really mature of you, really.
 
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1. The goal was the same - to capture. I don't see why it matters how long it took before catching it.
The journey is as important as the destination. Part of what made the main characters' captures interesting and entertaining are their actual attempts to catch Pokemon, either through battle or by befriending them. There's immediate entertainment and satisfaction to be gained from watching Ash and his travelling companions catch new Pokemon and add them to their party. Meanwhile, most of Gou's captures feel very shallow and pointless, partly due to how quick and easy they happen, and partly because they're mostly just used as tiny stepping stones towards his very distant secondary goal of completing the Pokedex.

As for his primary goal of catching Mew, I daresay that Gou has barely made any progress at all. He almost never tries to battle Pokemon before catching them, and the best tactic he currently has to catch stubborn/powerful Pokemon is to throw as many regular Pokeballs as he can towards them. Considering how powerful Mew is, which Gou has witnessed first-hand in the first episode, simply throwing Pokeballs at that thing definitely won't work. And yet, the writers are making no attempts to actually improve Gou's capturing skills. For now, anyway.

Honestly all the complains and accusations regarding Gou's captures feel overwhelmingly pointless to me. I mean, what was different in the past 20 years when people played the games and caught every species in order to fill the Pokédex, or when they played the Let's Go/Go games and caught the same species several times to gain candies and such. But when an anime character does the same, it suddenly becomes something unacceptable. I never get that exeggerated reaction toward Gou.
Players do a lot of weird stuff in video games just because they can. Even if the game encourages such behavior, that doesn't necessarily mean it makes sense. Especially if you adapt such behavior into an anime.

Yes, the games give me the option of catching the legendary deities that control space and time itself. But if someone actually tries to do that in the anime, you'd probably think they were crazy and up to no good.
 
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Trouble with Go catching so many Pokemon to me is like Ash did in Unova, they don't get so much interaction with their trainer or on-screen (cough Palpitoad cough) and can become easily forgetable
 
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1. The goal was the same - to capture. I don't see why it matters how long it took before catching it.
My point wasn’t the time before the capture, but rather: Does the Pokémon even know that it’s being captured? Yes/No?

And secondly, the anime's the same one which has been preaching for the past 20 years that a capture is exceedingly notable, is often difficult, takes a Pokemon's personality into account and isn’t supposed to be a dopamine rush quicker than the time it takes to like a Facebook post. If you can’t "get it", there’s enough discourse on this thread and others which you can read on.

(Not directed at anyone specific)At this point I’ve seen many, many different people going "Whats the issue? What’s the issue?" When there’s been literal tens of very eloquent pages written by the users on here explaining their stance. At this point it feels like talking to a wall and I hope people make enough effort to understand each other instead of digs, name calling from both sides. Or using one users' statement to reflect on everyone's opinions.

It angered me to irrational levels when a troll-ish "Scorbunny’s so weak that it lost to Mightyena" was used as ammunition to discredit everyone who doesn’t support Go. This is when literally everyone who "attacks" Go opposed the post in question.
How would people feel if I say "Everyone who likes Go blindly supports the anime/are anime shills"? I’m sure it won’t be good.

Sorry, but I was just tired of circling back to the same issue for the nth time. This isn’t meant to insult or degrade anyone but is an outlet for my frustrations on the topic.
 
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Ohh... So throwing flames, beams, sharp rocks, thunders, bucket of ice pieces, causing earthquakes, fires, storms, hurricanes while catching a Pokémon are fine, but when it comes to throwing a Poké Ball without the Pokémon noticing it is a problem? If I ever become a Pokémon, I'll carry a sign saying I'd prefer the latter in case someone wants to catch me.

Sorry, but I was just tired of circling back to the same issue for the nth time. This isn’t meant to insult or degrade anyone but is an outlet for my frustrations on the topic.
I could tell since my point is already taken out of the context miles away by the end of post with Scorbunny's battle to Mightyena which I am so irrelevant to atm.
 
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I could tell since my point is already taken out of the context miles away by the end of post with Scorbunny's battle to Mightyena which I am so irrelevant to atm.
I put that up since I meant to separate the two. Maybe even write up under a new post but they’d be merged probably due to double posting.
Ohh... So throwing flames, beams, sharp rocks, thunders, bucket of ice pieces, causing earthquakes, fires, storms, hurricanes while catching a Pokémon are fine, but when it comes to throwing a Poké Ball without the Pokémon noticing it is a problem? If I ever become a Pokémon, I'll carry a sign saying I'd prefer the latter in case someone wants to catch me.
The anime has clearly built up Pokémon as living, breathing creatures with wills of their own though under the Pokémon universe with their own diverse personalities. Being able to do elemental attacks doesn’t remove that trait. If I were a Pokémon I'd at least like to see who was capturing me before I was put in a wildlife sanctuary. And I wouldn’t be instantly subservient to such a capture.

A few Pokémon may be submissive enough for that, but the more Pokémon this happens to, the more unrealistic it’s becoming under the Pokémon universe and anime world building (in case you want to bring up real world here, too). How does every Pokemon Go runs into turn out like that, whereas at least 1/6th of all Ash captures end up with some amount of stubbornness?
 
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Sport requires discipline and training. Wild pokemon may or may not train properly but they sure lack enough discipline. That may be accurate trainer vs trainer battles, though.
And trainers that have Pokemon, but don't use them (Which includes battling wild Pokemon before capture) for anything won't train either (Looking at you Scorbunny), so there isn't even a point in having a Pokemon if you are not planning to use them.
 
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Sport requires discipline and training. Wild pokemon may or may not train properly but they sure lack enough discipline. That may be accurate trainer vs trainer battles, though.
Not all people train before sports though. Amateur players exist; and many countries like mine have basically every child grow up playing cricket and football without anything but the basic rudimentary rules. Wild Pokemon would be akin to that in such an analogy.
 
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Not all people train before sports though. Amateur players exist; and many countries like mine have basically every child grow up playing cricket and football without anything but the basic rudimentary rules. Wild Pokemon would be akin to that in such an analogy.
Amateurs don’t perform dangerous acts like idk breathing fire though or its equivalence. This is pound or growl.
 
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This wouldn't normally be a problem... except for the fact that the Wurmple were flat as hell and lacking personalities so them cuddling Gou when he's done nothing beneficial for the three comes off as forced "friendship".
I cannot disagree, but it’s what we have to put up with if he’s catching so manyPokémon. He’s making friends with them, just off screen and forced.
 
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Now people are complaining that the Wurmples were too friendly with Go? Wow do some people wake up every morning and plan out how they'll make Go look bad on this forum? There's nothing wrong with his Pokemon liking him even if we haven't seen them bond on screen, because it's already been implied a few times that since all his Pokemon live at the same lab as him, that they at least see each other often. So it's reasonable to think that they interact with each other at several points during their free time.

But even if Go didn't bond with them I can't imagine why the Wurmples cuddling him would be seen as something awful. Maybe his Pokemon just like him, did you guys ever consider that? There doesn't have to be a deeper meaning to it really.
 
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Amateurs don’t perform dangerous acts like idk breathing fire though or its equivalence. This is pound or growl.
And amateurs sports players don’t usually have powers to manipulate the events. Why are you trying to compare the abilities of real world humans, and Pokémon universe Pokémon? Pokemon clearly have a different physiology and tolerate a higher amount of stress, more than what humans consider dangerous or even fatal (even this isn’t proven in the anime universe since humans have survived otherwise lethal-in-real-world attacks.

The anime universe clearly has a different view of what’s fatal and what isn’t. The Pokémon moves are hardly dangerous to a Pokémon except in exceptional conditions.

Now people are complaining that the Wurmples were too friendly with Go? Wow do some people wake up every morning and plan out how they'll make Go look bad on this forum? There's nothing wrong with his Pokemon liking him even if we haven't seen them bond on screen, because it's already been implied a few times that since all his Pokemon live at the same lab as him, that they at least see each other often. So it's reasonable to think that they interact with each other at several points during their free time.

But even if Go didn't bond with them I can't imagine why the Wurmples cuddling him would be seen as something awful. Maybe his Pokemon just like him, did you guys ever consider that? There doesn't have to be a deeper meaning to it really.
I don’t have no issue with his Pokémon liking him, but my issue is that somehow every Pokemon Go comes across has the singular personality trait of being friendly to their trainer to almost subservient levels, specially when some of them didn’t even know who wanted to capture them. A Pokeball throw, and poof! Go has an army of Pokémon who're nothing but friendly to him.

It gets a tad bit unrealistic when every capture is as convenient as that.
 
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Among Ash's "missed Pokemons" (exclude Riolu), Larvitar is the most likely to be caught because at least the writers still remember it with that flashback in SM anime.
 
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