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Pokémon Evolution/Capture/Release Thread

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I think Ash getting base stages for 2 stage lines (So base stage and evolution) is more likely then him getting base stages for 3 stage lines, since then they need to develop those mons heavily and the Journeys writers seem to be allergic to give development to Ash's mons (Or mons in general). So i think prime candidate for a Galar capture is Cufant.
 
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I think Ash getting base stages for 2 stage lines (So base stage and evolution) is more likely then him getting base stages for 3 stage lines, since then they need to develop those mons heavily and the Journeys writers seem to be allergic to give development to Ash's mons (Or mons in general). So i think prime candidate for a Galar capture is Cufant.
I would agree, if it wasn't the ace of Chairman Rose, and Ash has never before owned the ace Pokemon of a primary antagonist.
 
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I would agree, if it wasn't the ace of Chairman Rose, and Ash has never before owned the ace Pokemon of a primary antagonist.
Tbh, considering the arc is already over, they likely won't touch upon it again and Rose most likely won't be seen again.
 
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Even if they don't, Copperajah is also the ace of Peony, who might have an appearance himself if the Crown Tundra is adapted.
I mean, if we base aces of which Pokemon Ash can get or not, he won't get Urshifu either.
 
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I mean, if we base aces of which Pokemon Ash can get or not, he won't get Urshifu either.
tbh, with two Fighting-types in his party already, I wasn't keen on him getting a third one to begin with.

But even if you don't think having three Fighting-types is a strong enough reasoning against Ash catching a Kunbfu/Urshifu... Urshifu does have two forms, so there's no reason why they couldn't just do the same thing the games do and have Ash keep one Urshifu form while Mustard gets the other. Easy peasy solution, really.
 
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I think we all now know why they gave Ash a fully evolved Dragonite and Gengar; if they gave him Dratini and Gastly we’d have expected development - it took us about 25 episodes before we realised “hold on a minute, they barely appear and rarely do anything”

I think Sirfetch’d and even Lucario have been resigned to this fate...
 
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I think we all now know why they gave Ash a fully evolved Dragonite and Gengar; if they gave him Dratini and Gastly we’d have expected development - it took us about 25 episodes before we realised “hold on a minute, they barely appear and rarely do anything”

I think Sirfetch’d and even Lucario have been resigned to this fate...
I think they’re well aware that we expect development no matter what evolutionary stage they’re at.
 
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I think they’re well aware that we expect development no matter what evolutionary stage they’re at.
I also believe they were aware at the time, but I do think it's because, if they were just Gastly and Dratini when caught, development would need to be more ''obvious'' and would need to be bigger, and also cover multiple episodes, since in the anime world, Pokemon, at least like, 99% of the time, evolve physically to demonstrate their mental/emotional development.

Think of Sirfetch'd for instance: it only evolved in every sense of the word when it overcame it's recklesness and actually listened to Ash and the two were able to connect fully. And this is an advantage in storytelling this anime always had: They can show growth figuratively speaking through physical, tangible growth.

It's an powerful weapon that the Pokémon anime has in it's hands, and they know even when to not use it, since Pikachu, and basically every other Pokémon in that series that conciously decided not to evolve also shows that you don't always needs an physical change to be strong and to grow. And even Pokémon that cannot evolve at all had their arcs, like how Hawlucha learned to think before acting and to be more precise with it's moves.

But let's take Dragonite here for a second: it appeared as an Dragonair, and what was it's challenge? To learn Dragon Dance and evolve. Ash helped it out, and then decided to follow him, and was captured, in the same episode it appeared. And Gengar? It learned what happened to it's trainer, and learned to overcome grief and rage, and most specially, to learn that is possible to still build and developt new relationships even if you had your heart broken before, and the whole thing happened in a singular episode, and was captured in the same moment.

See an pattern here? There's no complex, multiple-episodes-long arcs dedicated to his Pokémon. It's not lke Charizard, Glalie, Infernape, Gliscor, Greninja, Goodra, just to name a few, who had multiple episodes, spread out trough their series to have their arcs, even if some of them didn't had the best arcs. It's just another example of Journey's ''Kids are not gonna watch multiple episodes in order so we need an episodic format'' type of mentality.

And like, okay, they were already caught fully evolved, so, what's next? What are their new challenges and trials? Wait, they already surpassed them? In the same episode they were caught in??? Like, Gengar overcame it's distrusts towards humans, and Dragonite learned how to fly, so what are they supossed to developt now? They battle with/for Ash, but what now? I think my point is that, if they were caught in their base forms, we could've more out of them.
 
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I think the reason that Dragonite and Gengar were caught fully evolved was mainly so Ash could have a couple of strong Pokemon ready and set for the PWC, but seeing how little those two have done since their capture especially with how rare PWC battles themselves have become, if anything it just kinda reinforces the idea that Ash should have just used his reserves.

However, a good compromise might have been if Dragonite and Gengar had been caught in their middle stages instead, that way they'd be strong enough to believably put up a good fight against tough PWC opponents (which would be especially believable in Dragonair's case, since pseudo-legendaries don't evolve early unless they're Ash's Goodra), but still have room to grow, and maybe then the writers wouldn't have so many excuses to not give them appearances...
 
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