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Pokémon Evolution/Capture/Release Thread

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I'm glad they're fakes too (well, I would've accepted the middle forms of Tsutarja and Mijumaru)

Well those middle forms were in the beta art so that's why they looked real(ish) :p I gotta say the final form of Mijumaru was ridiculous! How did the middle form get from that to THAT?
 

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What do you think about ash getting all 3 starters now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBY9IzWM87o seem more likely doesnt it.Are you begining to believe me and the pigeon also being the four not the first Iris is probably not in the episode(he meets her while trying to catch the bird when ever that is), and why would he use a water against tsutaja if he had a flying(probably might even if he did but what are the chances) .
 
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What do you think about ash getting all 3 starters now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBY9IzWM87o seem more likely doesnt it.Are you begining to believe me and the pigeon also being the four not the first Iris is probably not in the episode(he meets her while trying to catch the bird when ever that is), and why would he use a water against tsutaja if he had a flying(probably might even if he did but what are the chances) .

i still give u mijimaru most definatly, and even pokabu seems that way as well but still not guarenteed but leading that way. but i am still not sold on the grass starter. yes we see him fighting one but it could be anyone's including Dento's. but the others are looking good for being in his team
 

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What do you think about ash getting all 3 starters now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBY9IzWM87o seem more likely doesnt it.Are you begining to believe me and the pigeon also being the four not the first Iris is probably not in the episode(he meets her while trying to catch the bird when ever that is), and why would he use a water against tsutaja if he had a flying(probably might even if he did but what are the chances) .

Unless the first episode revolves around the starters I highly highly doubt it. And they aren't going to wait until BW150 before introducing Iris to Ash.

They are going to meet the first episode, and Ash is going to catch Mamepato in the first episode. Especially with the possibility of Mijumaru being caught in the third episode.
 

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All i want is the new season to start and soon. with all the rumors and speculations it seems people think Ash will return to his original ways ans catch ten to a dozen pokemon in the new season. now as much as i would love for Ash to diversify his portfolio so to speak will he go about it the same way or will they be rotated.
in the first series he caught 10 pokemon 7 of which are still with him to be called upon. will he go on the catching rampage u know getting his hands on all those pokemon he seems to help every episode
 

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What do you think about ash getting all 3 starters now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBY9IzWM87o seem more likely doesnt it.Are you begining to believe me and the pigeon also being the four not the first Iris is probably not in the episode(he meets her while trying to catch the bird when ever that is), and why would he use a water against tsutaja if he had a flying(probably might even if he did but what are the chances) .

I liked when they kept the flow of Ash getting all three starters. Kanto, Johto, then they had to go and give poor Mudkip to Brock and broken the cycle. But it would be nice to start all over again with the same trend.
 

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I liked when they kept the flow of Ash getting all three starters. Kanto, Johto, then they had to go and give poor Mudkip to Brock and broken the cycle. But it would be nice to start all over again with the same trend.

They can't handle all three of them on Ash, because someone always gets cheated in the end wether it be by evo or just plain neglection--;
 

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They can't handle all three of them on Ash, because someone always gets cheated in the end wether it be by evo or just plain neglection--;

i agree look at what happened to torterra he went from a powerhouse to backseat with infernape. no jhoto starter is fully evolved and charizard is the only kanto starter to evolve at all (even though bulbasaur declined evolution). and what happened to sceptile he became the overwhelming powerhouse of his hoenn team because he was the main guy, it was also good that tokoal couldnt evolve. so if Ash catches two or three starters who gets left out.
 

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i agree look at what happened to torterra he went from a powerhouse to backseat with infernape. no jhoto starter is fully evolved and charizard is the only kanto starter to evolve at all (even though bulbasaur declined evolution). and what happened to sceptile he became the overwhelming powerhouse of his hoenn team because he was the main guy, it was also good that tokoal couldnt evolve. so if Ash catches two or three starters who gets left out.

You're forgetting that Infernape also had an actual storyline that the other starters didn't have. You can't use Torterra as an example of why Ash only having one was better because Sceptile never had any kind of storyline that would put more focuse on it like Infernape did.

I do want Ash to capture a Ghost type this gen as his wildcard pokemon
 

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You're forgetting that Infernape also had an actual storyline that the other starters didn't have. You can't use Torterra as an example of why Ash only having one was better because Sceptile never had any kind of storyline that would put more focuse on it like Infernape did.

I do want Ash to capture a Ghost type this gen as his wildcard pokemon

i can use it. he went from being a tough as nails powerhouse to a side note in infernapes story. and why should he have taken a backseat to the story in the first place that shouldnt happen gible and starapter didnt really take a hit. im happy at how strong infernape became but torterra was shafted and lost some power as the series went on when there was no reason for it. the point i was making is some if not all the other starters become take a seat to one or the other.

id like for him to get his psychic preferably gochiruzeru
 

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You're forgetting that Infernape also had an actual storyline that the other starters didn't have. You can't use Torterra as an example of why Ash only having one was better because Sceptile never had any kind of storyline that would put more focuse on it like Infernape did.

I do want Ash to capture a Ghost type this gen as his wildcard pokemon

A ghost type would be very good for Ash, it would also provide him with valuable knowledge about their strengths and weaknesses i.e. not using Seismic Toss on them and other fighting and normal moves >.<. He still has alot of stuff to learn that boy, a hell of alot of stuff about pokemon.
 

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You're forgetting that Infernape also had an actual storyline that the other starters didn't have. You can't use Torterra as an example of why Ash only having one was better because Sceptile never had any kind of storyline that would put more focuse on it like Infernape did.

I do want Ash to capture a Ghost type this gen as his wildcard pokemon

If they don't go on ahead and give each of the starters a storyline, then maybe Ash can have all three. But for some reason, people seem to think Ash can't handle it. Oh Please! If Ash was able to do all that switching around with different pokemon in the toughest league ever, I'm sure he can raise three little starters.
 

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If they don't go on ahead and give each of the starters a storyline, then maybe Ash can have all three. But for some reason, people seem to think Ash can't handle it. Oh Please! If Ash was able to do all that switching around with different pokemon in the toughest league ever, I'm sure he can raise three little starters.

we just say that between the three starters his bird who has at least one evolution if not two and one or two other pokemon that may or may not evolve. no from what im hearing this region is going to go by a lot faster then sinnoh so where are all the evolutions gonna come from in littler time. and if he does catch them who and or how many dont get the attention the others do and end up a secondary thought and wont evolve like all the ones i stated before. if they can make it work more power to them but Ash wont pull off 8 to 10 evos in one reasonably smaller region.
 

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we just say that between the three starters his bird who has at least one evolution if not two and one or two other pokemon that may or may not evolve. no from what im hearing this region is going to go by a lot faster then sinnoh so where are all the evolutions gonna come from in littler time. and if he does catch them who and or how many dont get the attention the others do and end up a secondary thought and wont evolve like all the ones i stated before. if they can make it work more power to them but Ash wont pull off 8 to 10 evos in one reasonably smaller region.

I don't expect it to take nearly 100 episode for Ash's possible starters to evolve. I expect them to be very similar to the times Monferno and Grotle evolves. Probably around 30-50 episodes (and probably 10 episode between evolutions as well). I wouldn't be surprised if Ash's Mijumaru evolves near the third gym, and evolves again further near the 6th gym.

Besides I'm not sure how much we need to see the Pokemon. As long as a Pokemon gets a few wins in their current form, I don't see the harm in evolving in like 30-50 episodes.

And to top it off the Isshu region may be less episodes than the Sinnoh region, but will the hypothetical 6th gen be ready at that time? I could easily see a season (50 episodes) where if need be Ash can gain more evolutions by then. At the very least I do expect something similar to the Sinnoh League, except maybe 1-2 more evolutions (this number of evolutions excludes Cyndaquil's evolution since it wasn't on the main cast, replace Cyndaquil's evolution for a Buizel evolution or a Gible evolution and you'll see what I mean).

So in a faster paced series I except just as many or more evolutions but a lot sooner. I mean just look at the total number of episodes it took for a Pokemon to reach their final form. Turtwig to Torterra was about 150+ episodes. I don't expect someone like Mijumaru to take that long, maybe 100 episodes, but probably less.
 

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I don't expect it to take nearly 100 episode for Ash's possible starters to evolve. I expect them to be very similar to the times Monferno and Grotle evolves. Probably around 30-50 episodes (and probably 10 episode between evolutions as well). I wouldn't be surprised if Ash's Mijumaru evolves near the third gym, and evolves again further near the 6th gym.
I don't expect someone like Mijumaru to take that long, maybe 100 episodes, but probably less.

i get all that but remember u are adding a third starter so u add two more evolutions as well so between the three of them and the bird u have seven or eight evos, and again that is only if they choose to evolve them. now u add into the equation whatever other pokemon he decides to catch. now catching them all early helps, or if Ash catches other pokemon who dont have an evolution but Ash only has so many battles in a series and i feel personally that one or more pokemon will be left in the back. again its my opinion
 

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i get all that but remember u are adding a third starter so u add two more evolutions as well so between the three of them and the bird u have seven or eight evos, and again that is only if they choose to evolve them. now u add into the equation whatever other pokemon he decides to catch. now catching them all early helps, or if Ash catches other pokemon who dont have an evolution but Ash only has so many battles in a series and i feel personally that one or more pokemon will be left in the back. again its my opinion

Let's do a hypothetical Scenario (the most amount of evolutions possible, if Mamepato has two evolutions, and let's say Ash's wildcard Pokemon is like Gible with 2 evolutions as well). So total there would 10 possible evolutions. Now I'm going to ignore the possibility Ash catches some reserve type Pokemon (or rotation Pokemon), so he only catches 5 Isshu Pokemon.

Mamepato- Episode 1
Mijumaru- Episode 3
Tsutarja- Episode 5
Pokabu- Episode 7
Wildcard- Episode 30 (Ash would have to realistically get a team of 5 fairly early in order for it to work, and make sense, his final Pokemon could wait awhile though).

Evolutions:

Mamepato- Episode 25 (for 24 episodes)
Mijumaru- 40 (for 37 episodes)
Tsutarja- 50 (for 45 episode)
Pokabu- 60 (for 53 episodes)
Wildcard- 70 (for 40 episodes)

Mamepato's evo- 75 (for 35 episodes)
Mijumaru's evolution- 85 (for 45 episodes)
Tsutarja's evolution- 95 (for 45 episode
Pokabu's evoltution- 100 (as a special 100 episode thing, and 40 episode).
Wildcard's evolution- 140 (a whole 70 episodes)

Right there Ash just got 10 evolutions by episode 140, nor do I think (if Ash gets quite a bit of battling and wins it would not look rushed at all). And 140 is around a reasonable time Isshu Region might actually be done. Add 50 more episodes (for a filler season) until generation 6 and you could probably space the evolutions more (but hopefully not by much more).

And this also does fit the faster paced idea. However like I said each form should get at least 2 significant wins, even if said 2nd win causes it to evolve.

I definitely don't want something like Chimchar that took over 100 episodes to evolve, or Staravia. Those were ridiculous.
 

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yes i get that it is realistically possible. but unless the creators and artists completely change it wont, and you have to take that into account never has Ash evolved every pokemon he has had in a region. that is the only thing that is most likely not going to change anytime soon. is it all plausible most definitely but one has to take in the possibility of it happening. for as much as the series has changed over the years a lot of things tended to have stayed the same.
im just being realistic love it or hate it u have to think if he catches what u propose and given the way things have panned out before, something wont turn out the way u think. bulbasaur squirtle bayleef totodile cyndaquil corphish buizel and gible all hurt by the catch of starters hell even torterra took a big power hit like i had stated in earlier posts. he gets so wrapped up in one or two pokemon the rest become backups
 

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yes i get that it is realistically possible. but unless the creators and artists completely change it wont, and you have to take that into account never has Ash evolved every pokemon he has had in a region.
The only two pokemon that didn't evolve in Sinnoh were Gible and Buizel. Gible came in late so it's okay it didn't evolve and Buizel suffers from the writers not evolving main water types. But with BW that trend might come to a close as Ash is revealed to capture Mijumaru and they've been fully evolving the starters Ash gets since Hoenn so I see that as likely. Besides Best Wishes is likely to be around 190+ episodes whether it be one big region or have a filler saga at the end the writers still have a lot of episodes to develop and evolve Ash's pokemon. But we still have to take into account Iris' and Dento's captures/evolutions but they did state it would be faster paced and until we know exactly what they meant by that we're stuck speculating
 

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You people are focusing on the pokemon too much and so are the writers, in case you didnt realise the pokemon get ditch every region so alot of development makes no sense, they are basically tools(I know they talk about pokemon being your friend and whats not) he get new ones every region, would you abandon a friend?(the so they can rest thing makes no sense ether because some pokemon were caught at the end of the region).
I remmeber when human character had a role(kanto and less so johto).
But now the anime changed is just a big marketing tool so they want show as many pokemon as often as they can.
Thats the reason they do the development thing(they only care about money), so less focus on how much pokemon are caught and when exactly they evolve(so if 3 pokemon evolve within twenty episodes it shouldnt matter) and more focus on the human characters and how they use their pokemon would make better show, only reason you guys care how and when the pokemon evolve is because the writer pay them too much attention, it kind of silly every other episode is about a single pokemon(it was like the show was an advertisement especially in sinnoh).
I never said no development for the pokemon less individual focus episodes (charizard line had a good story and had about 1-3 episodes entirely about it)it would much smoother than sinnoh which was rushed at the end ( basically the whole league arc was on the battle field).
The show is suppose to be about the trainer's goals not their pokemon's(Infernape was boring, it was basically about blaze, very repetitive episodes).
 
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^^The show is called pokemon so I don't know why it should only be about the trainers, it should also be about the pokemon so they aren't mindless battling machines. The whole league arc should be on the battlefield since that's what the league is, a battling competition.

(it was like the show was an advertisement especially in sinnoh).

The show is an advertisement for the games, it always has been


Why shouldn't the writers focus on the pokemon they are the reason a lot of people watch the show, or would you rather watch a show with the same characters except the fight eachother by throwing empty balls at eachother?
 
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