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Pokemon Legends: Arceus Predictions/Speculation/Discussion Thread

Oriden

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Stumbled upon this-




Kinda puts a bullet in the size difference theory when the trailer footage for different countries is showing evidence of coming from different builds. Notice the trainer's pose differences in some clips.

(Ugh sorry if that video is showing up awkwardly, posting YouTube videos on mobile has proven to be a pain in the ass.)
 
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In the Italian trailer, the guy in the village who wants to see a Wurmple, litterally says "A small Wurmple". Not counting that the pokedex itself mentions the size differences for pokemon.
 

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In the Italian trailer, the guy in the village who wants to see a Wurmple, litterally says "A small Wurmple". Not counting that the pokedex itself mentions the size differences for pokemon.

Well yeah, but are they going to be visible differences or will it be more like Go and Let's Go where it just claims there's a size difference without actually showing one? I don't think we've seen any pokemon of the same species in varying sizes actually share the same screen yet so it's hard to say whether the foreign language trailers are showing a legitimate in-game size difference or just size tweaks between builds.

Also I dunno, you could ask to see a little Wurmple without meaning a smaller than average Wurmple. Wurmple in general are pretty small.
 

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Well yeah, but are they going to be visible differences or will it be more like Go and Let's Go where it just claims there's a size difference without actually showing one? I don't think we've seen any pokemon of the same species in varying sizes actually share the same screen yet so it's hard to say whether the foreign language trailers are showing a legitimate in-game size difference or just size tweaks between builds.
And the question is: why would they program pokemon of different sizes in different builds if Pokemon had just a single size in the game?
 

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Why would anything else change size? The trainer and environment are a reference point, but the pokemon probably have to be adjusted relative to each other and the trainer model.
I don't think so. They've used the same models for amost 10 years, right now they should know how big pokemon are compared to other pokemon before programming them in the game, don't you think? And, btw, some Pokemon change size significally in different builds and we are 5 months away from release. Are they really still programming the pokemon sizes instead of working on those textures?
Pokemon have clearly different sizes imo and the fact that different trailers show it and the pokedex itself mentions it for me it is enough to believe it.
 

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I'm not believing or assuming anything not explicitly advertised to be a feature. This could easily be different builds having different sizes- the precedent is that size is never reflected in the models (except Pumpkaboo) so I see no reason to conclude that this is suddenly the case because different builds of the game supposedly reflect it.

Also those Wurmple are hilariously different in size. That would be wild if the size differences are real and that extreme.
 

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I'm not believing or assuming anything not explicitly advertised to be a feature. This could easily be different builds having different sizes- the precedent is that size is never reflected in the models (except Pumpkaboo) so I see no reason to conclude that this is suddenly the case because different builds of the game supposedly reflect it.

Also those Wurmple are hilariously different in size. That would be wild if the size differences are real and that extreme.
Oh, you can think whatever you want. But size differences have been explicitly advertised considering the pokedex mentions them and the trailers show them. If this is not the case, then they shouldn't have put them in the trailer, considering that's the way you advertise things, you know. ;)
 

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I actually saw a video a couple days ago talking about the different sizes. CentroPokemon was reporting on stuff revealed from the Japanese website

Here’s the video I watched.

If you don’t want to watch the video, the tweets talking about the Japanese version are in the description.

Most importantly, here’s the tweets comparing stuff from the Japanese one to the English that looks like confirmation of different Pokémon sizes


Edit: Also worth mentioning that when I went to look for and post the video, there’s a new one from 4 hours ago.

Edit 2: Looked into it. Some possible new info: If you were worried about only being able to do Strong style or Agile Style moves, don’t worry, you can use regular moves (Priority moves like Aqua Jet can increase the amount of turns you have). Video was posted of Starly seeing you and flying away. If you’re too close to your Pokémon when an opposing Pokémon lands a hit, you can be hurt too. There’s a black frame around you to measure how much damage you take, with it going red if you’re in the danger zone.
 
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Oh, you can think whatever you want. But size differences have been explicitly advertised considering the pokedex mentions them and the trailers show them. If this is not the case, then they shouldn't have put them in the trailer, considering that's the way you advertise things, you know. ;)
I don't think an image of a Pokedex page that shows a size range (which some past games have already included), combined with different countries' trailers having different sized models (that are not designed to be shown to audiences outside that country, and were created using different builds) counts as advertising size differences. That's how someone sets themselves up for disappointment. Like... this is WAY more low key than when the director of SwSh said there was a minor league that included the other 10 gym types, causing everyone to think there were 18 gyms in SwSh.

I'd love for there to be visual size differences, and there very well may be, but what we've been shown so far is not proof of that.
 

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I don't think so. They've used the same models for amost 10 years, right now they should know how big pokemon are compared to other pokemon before programming them in the game, don't you think? And, btw, some Pokemon change size significally in different builds and we are 5 months away from release. Are they really still programming the pokemon sizes instead of working on those textures?
Pokemon have clearly different sizes imo and the fact that different trailers show it and the pokedex itself mentions it for me it is enough to believe it.

Considering most of those ten years have been spent having tiny wailords the same size as vileplumes? And that the people working on I assume you mean the background textures probably aren't the same people working on adjusting pokemon sizes? Yeah, I definitely think that they might still be tweaking the sizes.
 

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Considering most of those ten years have been spent having tiny wailords the same size as vileplumes? And that the people working on I assume you mean the background textures probably aren't the same people working on adjusting pokemon sizes? Yeah, I definitely think that they might still be tweaking the sizes.
No, what I mean is that if they are still working on pokemon size, then they really need to delay the game, considering at this point the game should be pretty much finished and It may need to be polished at best. If they have to adjust sizes for 300 pokemon yet I guess we should be concerned.
P.s. You clearly haven't opened the pokedex in the past gens, cause It lets you see all pokemon 3d models compared by size. So yes, they have already worked on pokemon size in the past.
 

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No, what I mean is that if they are still working on pokemon size, then they really need to delay the game, considering at this point the game should be pretty much finished and It may need to be polished at best. If they have to adjust sizes for 300 pokemon yet I guess we should be concerned.
P.s. You clearly haven't opened the pokedex in the past gens, cause It lets you see all pokemon 3d models compared by size. So yes, they have already worked on pokemon size in the past.

Adjusting model sizes isn't that big a deal. The changes haven't even been that drastic and we don't know the dates for the builds the footage was taken from. They may have been done months ago.

Last game I played was Sun, which I can't remember if it showed any size differences in that game, but there's a difference between showing literal sizes in the pokedex and having them in the overworld where they're still probably going to make them appear more manageable rather than accurate.

My point being that they generally have not presented pokemon in comparative sizes in regular gameplay for the past ten years. LGPE was the first time we got to see an Onix actually appear big.
 

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Yes they do. And hey, the Pokédex could just be listing the average size of the species.
Average isn't detailed.

Wasn't that misinformation?
It turned out to be in-game lore. I never thought much of it. The Galar League borrowed a fair bit from the anime, including this detail. Klara and Avery at least corroborated it.
 
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