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Pokemon Legends: Arceus Predictions/Speculation/Discussion Thread

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Is it just me or that Mamoswine is totally not 8'02" (2.5m)?

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Hope that's because of different sizes for pokemon because I refuse to accept the possibility of Sw/Sh scaled down models coming back.
 

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Is it just me or that Mamoswine is totally not 8'02" (2.5m)?

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Hope that's because of different sizes for pokemon because I refuse to accept the possibility of Sw/Sh scaled down models coming back.

I would bet on scaled down models. It would be more difficult to get full scale models to all fit on the screen nicely so it's probably unlikely that we will ever see them at anything other than what's manageable.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Azure Flute made its first proper appearance here.
 

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i tried to see if this is mentioned on the earlier pages, in the video released for Japan there is a very short sequence near the start where different times of day are showcased :) :)

 

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Is it just me or that Mamoswine is totally not 8'02" (2.5m)?

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Hope that's because of different sizes for pokemon because I refuse to accept the possibility of Sw/Sh scaled down models coming back.
Scaled down models are definitely back. However at least this time they are not as drastic of a scale down, as you can see with that one Onix we saw (The one in the wild, not the pasture where all the mons are scaled down for space reasons, It was scaled down but not as drastically as it was in Sw/Sh). Just seems to apply to Pokemon who if at their full size, would be too big to fit nicely on screen. And if there are caves, certain Pokemon will probably be scaled down to actually fit inside too.

Edit: Might also be a case of them going back and changing the sizes of mons now that they are scaling them right, maybe they thought this size fit mamoswine better than 8'02 did.
 
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Cool to see we are getting moveset changes. Drifblim gets Extrasensory and Mythical Fire which it couldn’t learn before.
 

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Not-Mars reminds me of someone. Not a Pokemon character but a character from a different game.
 

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I have a theory:

  • In the first BDSP trailer we saw the Poketch with time set to 09:28 (yesterday we got news). In the last trailer we saw the Poketch set to this time:

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  • The Korean youtube trailer for Legends has this title: "[Official] Pokémon LEGENDS Arceus Latest Information Part 1 "Raging King and Queen".
  • From Arezu description in the official website, we learn that "She is tasked with the care of a certain lady Pokémon".

Putting all these info together, I'm guessing we are getting another trailer on October 9, which will be like a second part to this trailer, focusing on the queen pokémon that Arezu is tasked to take care of (maybe the Pokémon that will allow us to climb mountains?).
 

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This Spanish Screenshot confirms wardens are part of Diamond and Pearl clans:

https://twitter.com/pokexperto/status/1443135610588438531/photo/1
Interesting, looks like Diamond and Pearl were clans

I have a theory:

  • In the first BDSP trailer we saw the Poketch with time set to 09:28 (yesterday we got news). In the last trailer we saw the Poketch set to this time:

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  • The Korean youtube trailer for Legends has this title: "[Official] Pokémon LEGENDS Arceus Latest Information Part 1 "Raging King and Queen".
  • From Arezu description in the official website, we learn that "She is tasked with the care of a certain lady Pokémon".

Putting all these info together, I'm guessing we are getting another trailer on October 9, which will be like a second part to this trailer, focusing on the queen pokémon that Arezu is tasked to take care of (maybe the Pokémon that will allow us to climb mountains?).
This would actually be the best time to showcase a last look trailer before BDSP and more info on Legends. In fact, if they are making a lot of noble pokemon, releasing their footage once in a while wouldn't make it a large surprise before the games release
 

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That offset red glow really makes it look like Electivire's eyes are bulging out of his head
While I'm totally not in the position of defending the tech of this game, I think that's a compromise they had to make. Losing time to provide all pokemon models red eyes was not a good idea. Considering how most of the textures look right now, I'm convinced there's something else that needs their time.
 

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Went through the Japanese website (again) and noticed something that's not mentioned in the English one.

Japanese Legends Website said:
調査をしたい時間帯までベースキャンプで休んでから、出発することもできるぞ。

"You can rest at the basecamp until the time of day when you want to do your research."
So, a confirmation that the in-game time is independent to the system time?

Also the alpha Pokémon was called "オヤブン" in Japanese, which I find funny because to my knowledge that term is mostly used to refer to the head of Yakuza or something similar to that.

Also, Kleavor's description said that it leaves certain marks on the trees to mark it's territory. It would be cool if that's reflected in-game, but I won't hope for anything.
 

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Cool to see we are getting moveset changes. Drifblim gets Extrasensory and Mythical Fire which it couldn’t learn before.
Are Mid-generation moveset changes normally a change? For Pokemon that were also in a game earlier in the gen i mean. I imagine pokemon in remakes who werent in the main game probably do.
 

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I have a theory:

  • In the first BDSP trailer we saw the Poketch with time set to 09:28 (yesterday we got news). In the last trailer we saw the Poketch set to this time:

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  • The Korean youtube trailer for Legends has this title: "[Official] Pokémon LEGENDS Arceus Latest Information Part 1 "Raging King and Queen".
  • From Arezu description in the official website, we learn that "She is tasked with the care of a certain lady Pokémon".

Putting all these info together, I'm guessing we are getting another trailer on October 9, which will be like a second part to this trailer, focusing on the queen pokémon that Arezu is tasked to take care of (maybe the Pokémon that will allow us to climb mountains?).

I doubt the Poketch time really means too much.

The first one was just a reference to DP's release date if anything - which was yesterday, and of course they'd release news to celebrate it.
 

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Also the alpha Pokémon was called "オヤブン" in Japanese, which I find funny because to my knowledge that term is mostly used to refer to the head of Yakuza or something similar to that.

This comment just made me realize the obvious “alphas = Alpha Pokémon (Arceus)” connection, but since the Japanese in your post doesn’t match up with Arceus’s category in Japanese, I guess it’s just a Woolseyism on the English game’s part?
 

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Not a fan of the protagonists owning what's effectively a smartphone in 19th Century Japan. Surely a notebook would've been fine :unsure:
 
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Haven't seen it here yet, but it seems the flute is called "Celestica Flute" (not Azure Flute). I wonder how they'll be related to Celestic Town.

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Also the way Rei plays it reminds me of some traditional instrument, but I can't remember what.
And the sound played sounds very similar to the chime that plays when you hit select on the title screen of Diamond and Pearl.
 

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Based on Mars' dialogue, it's safe to assume that they're not a part of Galaxy Team. Maybe Hisuian counterpart of Ainu.
This Spanish Screenshot confirms wardens are part of Diamond and Pearl clans:

https://twitter.com/pokexperto/status/1443135610588438531/photo/1
Oh, that's good. I was afraid that there would be no natives and that Dialga and Palkia would get retconned into imported culture where it was clearly depicted to be part of the native ancient culture in the Gen 4 games. I'm glad that there isn't any glaring inconsistencies with that thus far.

Went through the Japanese website (again) and noticed something that's not mentioned in the English one.


"You can rest at the basecamp until the time of day when you want to do your research."
So, a confirmation that the in-game time is independent to the system time?
I wouldn't go that far just yet. It could very well just be an inversion of the current time of day like what you could do at the Altar of the Sunne/Moone in the Alola games.

And the sound played sounds very similar to the chime that plays when you hit select on the title screen of Diamond and Pearl.
I noticed that as well. Good catch!
 
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