Pokémon Remake Discussion (Read First Post!)

[VeggiePopper]

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Oh yeah, Hoenn and Sinnoh sounds were the worst in-game excuses for having foreign wild Pokémon. I hope we get better methods in future games- both originals and remakes.

 

[Lugion]

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This is what I'd like to see:

-Seasons and a visible day/night cycle. The day and night should've been in the originals, anyway.
-BOTH Team Aqua and Magma as antagonists. Just give Magma the larger events in Ruby and Aqua in Sapphire. Both should keep their bases, though, and Magma should always attack the Space Center, and Aqua should always take over Slateport in order to steal the submarine.
-A slightly expanded Hoenn Pokédex, including the new Hoenn evolutions.
-An expanded Wally plot, including not only helping him capture his Ralts, but also escorting him to Littleroot to obtain the third starter, after which he will battle you using Norman's Zigzagoon, his Ralts, and Treecko/Torchic/Mudkip. He should also show up at each gym after Mauville to challenge you to a battle.
-May/Brendan should focus on collecting from the beginning, but not quite training. As such, her/his name should also appear on each Gym statue, as well as Wally's.
-Once Groudon and Kyogre have been awakened and are fighting, the effects should spread over ALL of Hoenn, not just a few routes and cities. Citizens should also take notice of the strange weather, instead of just in Sootopolis.
-Groudon and Kyogre should retreat into the Cave of Origin after Rayquaza ends their battle. Weather effects begin to recede, but still affect much of Hoenn.
-Before going into the Cave of Origin, you should battle Maxie or Archie depending on your version in order to get the correct Orb, and your rival should battle the other. Then the two of you would proceed into the Cave of Origin together, splitting up at a fork in the road, leading you to Groudon in Ruby, and to Kyogre in Sapphire, and your rival to the opposite.
-Rayquaza does not return to the Sky Pillar until after you have defeated the Champion. Wally will meet you there to battle you before you may proceed inside the tower.
-Scott will still be encountered, but Contest Halls will return to Verdanturf, Fallarbor, and Slateport. Emerald's Battle Frontier will remain intact, complete with Artisan's Cave and Sudowoodo.
-TV events should be more frequent, with shows similar to those in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.
-Gabby and Ty should play a larger role in the story, appearing earlier and more often, as well as having larger teams as the game progresses.
-Team Magma and Aqua should also appear more often; preferably altogether as often as Team Plasma.
-Retain the Emerald Safari Zone expansion.
-Steven should be the champion the first time you face him, with Wallace taking his place in subsequent Elite Four challenges. Steven will then relocate to Meteor Falls and have near-Red level AI and levels. Juan would replace Wallace as Sootopolis Gym Leader.
-Raise the chance of Mirage Island appearing significantly.
-Have Regigigas appear in the Sealed Chamber after capturing Regice, Regirock, and Registeel. Also expand their backstory. They have all of nothing.
-Firmly tie together Rayquaza and the Orbs in the Groudon and Kyogre myth.

 

[Hunter Blade]

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Somebody probably said this already, but they'd need a VS Seeker instead of the call function. Just like with HGSS, and how many people disliked how slow training after the E4 is, the call function is really only good for the gym leaders. For all the other trainers, it'd be better to be able to go around continuously battling in order to train.


As for something they should keep, I loved the secret bases. Even though I wasn't able to do much with them, I thought they were a cool addition.

 

[thedavidshot]

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I've come to the conclusion that a sequel would probably be much better than a remake. Here are some ideas I've thought of:

• They take place in the same time as Black/White, which I assume is atleast 6 years after DPPt.
• The main story focuses on on a new team which focuses on getting control of all three of the Weather Trio.

Characters

• May, who I assume will be Birch's kid, will now be his full-time assistant. Alternatively, she might be the Professor herself, Birch having retired (this is unlikely though; Look at Oak!). She can be battled sometime after the story.
• Brenden, assuming he will be Norman's kid, will now be a Pokémon Master, and will have left his post as Champion go to other regions. After the story, he can be battled with a team consisting of Pokémon from the 5 currently known regions.
• The Elite Four members will have changed; Drake and Phoebe have now left.
  • Drake, being quite old, decided to retire from the Elite Four. He can now be found in Meteor Falls, in the area where Bagon can be caught. He can be battled post-E4. I haven't really decided on who would take his place, but one unlikely guess I've made is Clair. (xD;
  • Phoebe decided to leave so that she could look over Mt. Pyre in place of her grandparents. She can be battled post E4. Taking her place, would be Liza, who left the Mossdeep Gym under the ownership of Tate.
• After Brenden left, Wally finally assumed the position of of Champion.
• As mentioned above, Liza has left the Mossdeep Gym, and now Tate is the sole Gym Leader. He however still battles his challengers in double battles.
• Wattson, decided to leave his post as well. I haven't really come to a conclusion on who would take his place though.

Locations

• Pacifidlog Town, has been destroyed because of the currents going out of control. Its remains have now become home to many Pokémon underwater.
• The entrance to Spear Pillar is now underwater.
• Slateport now has a wall on its east side, to protect it from the out-of-control currents. To get to the other side of the wall, special permission is needed. (Which the player later gets).

Pokémon

• The availability of the Weather Trio is tricky. If all three were caught by Ethan/Lyra, then how would they be made available now? It is possible that Ethan/Lyra may have released the Trio sometime later.
• Regigigas has migrated back to Hoenn to find the Regis.
• Latios/Latias roams Hoenn once again.

Music

• As Ruby/Sapphire were incredibly innovative when it came to the music, their remakes/sequels should put a good amount of importance on the music.
• There should be more individual remixes of tracks, especially battle themes.
• Latios/Latias should get their own theme.
• The battle with May and Brenden should have its own theme too.
• Drake gets his own theme? (Maybe a slight remix).

That's what I've come up with so far.

THIS. IS. AWESOME.

 

[The Outrage]

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Somebody probably said this already, but they'd need a VS Seeker instead of the call function. Just like with HGSS, and how many people disliked how slow training after the E4 is, the call function is really only good for the gym leaders. For all the other trainers, it'd be better to be able to go around continuously battling in order to train.


As for something they should keep, I loved the secret bases. Even though I wasn't able to do much with them, I thought they were a cool addition.

The Pokenav was better than the Pokegear in this respect. All I need to actually do is ride around a city once or twice and I'll get so many signals for a battle, compared to HgSs, where I think I've only been asked to rematch all of three times, and all by Youngster Joey.

It would be cooler if the Trainer's eye/Match Call worked more like a social network with status updates that included trivia and when you wanted to battle. I mean, it already seems like a social network with its profiles. It could tie three things in one, Fame Checker, VS Seeker and Phone.

Drake, being quite old, decided to retire from the Elite Four. He can now be found in Meteor Falls, in the area where Bagon can be caught. He can be battled post-E4. I haven't really decided on who would take his place, but one unlikely guess I've made is Clair. (xD;

Since he's a sailor, I think it would be cool if a Drake rematch was done on a boat that sailed across the Hoenn seas, being at different locations on different days. He'd also have crewmen to battle for him, essentially, he has his own challenge.

 

[hurristat]

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The thing that I want to see the most in the games is the return of Secret Bases -- they were a nice way of training pokemon without the thousands of hours of grinding. It's still a lot of work, but it was cool to be able to battle your friends. Even now, I still use my Emerald to train pokemon that were released in Gen III or prior because it's a good system.

 

[rbogey]

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I would like to see the original Emerald Battle Frontier in the remakes, but also included would be all the facilities that have been in the games since then. Like the Arcade or Hall. Maybe even the subway things from Black and White. It would be one giant Frontier full of awesome!

 

[Ranger Jack Walker]

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Since the Emerald Battle Frontier is on an island far away from the coast of Hoenn, they can include this one in Grey too. No need to create a whole new one. Or worse, have the same one but in a different location like Platinum/HGSS.

 

[VeggiePopper]

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Since the Emerald Battle Frontier is on an island far away from the coast of Hoenn, they can include this one in Grey too. No need to create a whole new one. Or worse, have the same one but in a different location like Platinum/HGSS.

Personally, for the sake of creativity and freshness, if both games (i.e. Gray and the Hoenn remakes) have to share the same Frontier (ala Pt/HGSS) I'd rather it'll be a new one. I do want the remakes to keep the original Hoenn BF, but if that would mean they'll have to share it with Gray and thus we'll have no new BF this generation, I say it's better to give Hoenn a new one despite the retcon. After all, BF it's never part of the story mode so it wouldn't be a big deal continuity-wise, not to mention that move was already done with HGSS that had Pt's BF despite making no sense in terms of continuity.

Don't get me wrong, I do want the remakes (if they happen of course) to keep the original Frontier, but not at the cost of a new one for this generation. It's just that this time I prefer gameplay and original feaures over pseudocontinuity and nostalgia.

 

[menametlg]

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I agree! Ruby and Sapphire must hav their remake since it was the best pokemon game ever

 

[Joshawott]

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If they have to share the same Battle Frontier, at least give each game different Brains. If not for that, you could have just said Johto's Battle Frontier's design was based on Sinnoh's.

 

[Silktree]

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Last I checked there was a Battle Subway in Unova, as opposed to a Battle Tower. I don't see Hoenn having a Battle Subway unless sequels were released that allowed that level of alteration to the region's terrain.

The other facilities in the third version will most likely adjoin the Battle Subway at Kanawa Town.

 

[Moonlight Umbreon]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtropics
My point still stands. Snow doesn't belong in Hoenn.

''Rarely'' doesn't means ''never''. And Mt.Chymney and Mt.Pyre are higher than the rest of Hoenn. Plus, at least at the games, the only tropical trees I see are those at Fortree and Dewford.

 

[VeggiePopper]

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''Rarely'' doesn't means ''never''. And Mt.Chymney and Mt.Pyre are higher than the rest of Hoenn. Plus, at least at the games, the only tropical trees I see are those at Fortree and Dewford.

This. I live in a vey very warm region, yet mountain peaks are very snowy, not only in winter. Hell, even one of the most famous mountains here is called "Nevado de Toluca" ("Toluca's SNOWY"). So we can still have snow in those places in winter.

Other seasonal changes might be Dewford and Foretree (as well as the routes around those towns) being rainy in summer, since there are many topical places where summers are rainy. And for the pure escenery porn, forests should be brownish and and feature falling leaves during autumn, even if it has no effect in gameplay whatsoever.

 

[Kavidun]

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Music Wise, I hope they'll remix epicly.

I also see Dialga/Palkia being Post-Game like HG/SS did with the Weather Guys.

Distortion World would be epic.

Oooh! And the ability to travel to KANTO *shot* SINNOH post game!

 

[βƹβƹ ɱɪɢηѻη]

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I cannot wait to see Hoenn in night time and in seasons.

Speaking of the rods, will they return to the 3 original rods? Or will they do what they did in Black and White? - Personally, I believe they'll change it to the original 3. Why? Because Hoenn has the vastest amount of water than any of the other 4 main regions.

 

[Ivysaur]

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[sharktooth162]

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I must say that I would prefer a sequel simply because I loved RSE's landscape but thought the story was just annoying and I think that the story should be aqua and Magma uniting to bring the weather trio together and possibly invade one of the other regions which is how we'd bring going to sinnoh in as the teams succeed and you have to battle the two legendaries after Rayquaza escapes and the two teams break up and you have to fight them to release Kyogre and Groudon after defeating or capturing Rayquaza to calm it down. Depending on the version you shoud also get one of the leaders on side to defeat the other leader after defeating the leader who helps you where they realise what theyve been doing is wrong decide to help you fix things. Wattson, Brawly(has become surfer but can be found) , Fantina and Byron have been replaced with roark becoming a steel type to replace his father and the two elite four have merged to make one with Aaron, Sidney, Fint and Steven with wally as the champion. Juan is a gym leader and Wallace has become a contest judge and will compete in a special contest featuring him and other leaders from all regions. The Dojo will return with rematches brought about by capturing a specific pokemon for a leader such as a female breloom with a certain move for gardenia though obviously these wont be too difficult. Pacifidlog has been destroyed and rebuilt on a coral reef discovered where it once was.

 

[CyndaCynda]

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Or...

In the Ruby version, Juan is what you described, Wallace is the leader, and Steven is Champ, and Wallace is at the Sky Pillar, where he must be fought (with Steven's level of strength) to catch Rayquaza. In the Sapphire remake, however, Jaun is the Leader, Wallace is the Champ, and Steven resumes his role from Emerald.



No. Just no.



No. Again, no. It should only be called SunRuby (ie; Groudon causes infinite drought by making the sun extremely bright) and RainSapphire (Kyogre drowns all things by causing infinite rainfall).

Nooooooooooooooooo Sun and Rain AREN'T opposites. But it's a really good idea. I like SunRuby but MoonSapphire wouldn't work. I don't love RainSapphire, it sounds kindof wierd, like not as special as Heart, Soul.

WhirlpoolSapphire, LavaplumeRuby??????????????????? Anyone like those??? I DO! And I also like TerraRuby MarinSapphire! Yea I am gonna make idea boxarts!

 

[Manny T. Starr]

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The only reasonable name I could think of is MagmaRuby and AquaSapphire. ._.