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Pokémon Remake Discussion (Read First Post!)

When would you like R/S/E Remakes

  • Yes, this generation

    Votes: 195 47.6%
  • No, I'd prefer them in Gen 6

    Votes: 152 37.1%
  • No, wait till Gen 7

    Votes: 16 3.9%
  • No, i dont want r/s/e remakes

    Votes: 47 11.5%

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Re: Ruby and Sapphire Remake Discussion

Side-games being released on the 3DS, though, makes it seem like they're just filling in until a new generation. I don't see how releasing the remakes for the 3DS would be practical - the 3DS hasn't even been out for that long, so I doubt that they've managed to design, plan and create the entire game in that space of time. This is the only subject related to Pokémon that I agree with the people that say "lololololol but its a pattern so it has to be _____" on, because it just makes sense.

The Pokemon Company were among the first ones to get a 3DS development kit, which was like in 2008ish?(Don't quote me on that, someone else confirm), so the 3DS's actual release date doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with what is released.

So you're saying you think Rumble Blast took THAT SHORT A TIME to make? Seeing as it was released even before America just got it? I doubt it, seeing as the new console 'came out not that long ago'(according to you).
 

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The Pokemon Company were among the first ones to get a 3DS development kit, which was like in 2008ish?(Don't quote me on that, someone else confirm), so the 3DS's actual release date doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with what is released.

So you're saying you think Rumble Blast took THAT SHORT A TIME to make? Seeing as it was released even before America just got it? I doubt it, seeing as the new console 'came out not that long ago'(according to you).

Awesome caps for emphasis, bro. Doesn't make what you're saying seem rude or arrogant at all.

I'm not saying anything about Rumble Blast at all, though it is obvious that a game like that would take a lot less time to design and create than one of the main series games like Black/White/etc. If you look at my post, you'll see that I was simply responding to somebody else's post, and not saying anything specific about that particular side-game myself, mostly because I don't care about them. I'd appreciate it if you could consider that I was adjusting my argument to counter somebody else before assuming I'm saying negative things about another game, which is, in fact, not related to this thread at all.
 

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Re: Ruby and Sapphire Remake Discussion

While Pokémon Gold & Silver worked on the original Game Boy, they were always marketed as Gameboy Colour games. How many times have I had to say that?

Also, Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team was released almost a year after Dash.

AndRRT does not count... It's partner was on the DS... so whats your point? The 3DS will be out for over a year by the time R/S remakes are released... and unless they do a RRT/BRT for the 3Ds/DS Idon't see another game on the DS...
 

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AndRRT does not count... It's partner was on the DS... so whats your point? The 3DS will be out for over a year by the time R/S remakes are released... and unless they do a RRT/BRT for the 3Ds/DS Idon't see another game on the DS...
Red Rescue Team does count because Nintendo could have simply not released Red Rescue Team, or released it alongside Blue Rescue Team on the DS. All because you don't want it to count doesn't mean it doesn't.

Personally, I think R/S remakes will be for the 3DS as well - but that's because I believe we won't see them until around 2015; by which point, it would be stupid to still be releasing DS games.

I still put the odds of the 3rd version being for the DS or 3DS at 50-50; perhaps it was meant to be for the DS, but due to the console's not-exactly-perfect start, Nintendo are making GameFreak port it to the 3DS?
 

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Awesome caps for emphasis, bro. Doesn't make what you're saying seem rude or arrogant at all.

I'm not saying anything about Rumble Blast at all, though it is obvious that a game like that would take a lot less time to design and create than one of the main series games like Black/White/etc. If you look at my post, you'll see that I was simply responding to somebody else's post, and not saying anything specific about that particular side-game myself, mostly because I don't care about them. I'd appreciate it if you could consider that I was adjusting my argument to counter somebody else before assuming I'm saying negative things about another game, which is, in fact, not related to this thread at all.

Taking my post the wrong way and adding 'bro' at the end does not make you seem cool or anyless rude/arrogant there. I in no way meant to be rude or arrogant, I simply used the caps to put emphasis on what I was trying to point out.

The 3DS came out in March, while Rumble Blast came out in Japan in August? Even though it would take a lot less effort to make than a core game, you honestly think it would've taken a couple months to make and on a brand new handheld at that? I'm saying that because it seemed you were using the handheld's recent release as a way to imply it being too early for a core game. I was trying to say that the Pokemon was one of the first franchises to get the 3DS development kit(which was a fair amount of time before it's release), so they could've been working on the games, if they are the ones mentioned for Spring, for longer than you think.

In all honesty, I feel you were the one sounding rude/arrogant there.
 

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I read most of the posts here as "I want it" or "I'd rather have something else", loosely covered in biased arguments... Maybe it's me hoping GF break loose from the rigid pattern they're burying themselves in, but I can't but shake my head when most of the posts I see here look like:

"LOL at people who deny R/S remakes. everyone understanbd that GF will do remakes of my favorite games because its the pattern and they will make money. you will be proven wrong and I will be proven right."
 

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mod note:Guys, while it's okay to disagree, can I please remind everyone to be civil, and to not make any personal remarks to other users (whether they be aimed at specific members or users a whole)? Thanks.
 
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Taking my post the wrong way and adding 'bro' at the end does not make you seem cool or anyless rude/arrogant there. I in no way meant to be rude or arrogant, I simply used the caps to put emphasis on what I was trying to point out.

The 3DS came out in March, while Rumble Blast came out in Japan in August? Even though it would take a lot less effort to make than a core game, you honestly think it would've taken a couple months to make and on a brand new handheld at that? I'm saying that because it seemed you were using the handheld's recent release as a way to imply it being too early for a core game. I was trying to say that the Pokemon was one of the first franchises to get the 3DS development kit(which was a fair amount of time before it's release), so they could've been working on the games, if they are the ones mentioned for Spring, for longer than you think.

In all honesty, I feel you were the one sounding rude/arrogant there.

You think that was to make me look "cool"? It's the internet - everybody's added "bro" into a sentence at one time or another. It's common knowledge that emphasis in typed paragraphs is most commonly expressed with italics, not just by changing the words to have capital letters.

I didn't say that it only takes a couple of months to create an entire game for a console like the 3DS - or any console, for that matter - I said that it would take a lot longer to make one of the main series games due to the amount of detail, quality of graphics, etc, in order for said game to be successful with the fanbase. If what you said about Pokémon having the development kit for the 3DS since 2008 is true (which you yourself could not confirm), then that still doesn't mean that the Ruby and Sapphire remakes are going to be for that platform, as they would not have been working on it since then - they have had, what, 3 or 5 games completed and released since then (amazingly rough guess - I don't feel like looking it up)? I'd guess that they would have started work on the remakes mid-way through, or towards the end of, Black and White, if at all.

In all honesty, I feel the same way regarding how you're responding. There really was no point in adding that to the end of your post.
 

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Re: Ruby and Sapphire Remake Discussion

It was reported back in February 2010 that The Pokémon Company had a 3DS Development kit.

Oh and guys, I already told y'all to cut it with the personal comments...
 

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You think that was to make me look "cool"? It's the internet - everybody's added "bro" into a sentence at one time or another. It's common knowledge that emphasis in typed paragraphs is most commonly expressed with italics, not just by changing the words to have capital letters.

I didn't say that it only takes a couple of months to create an entire game for a console like the 3DS - or any console, for that matter - I said that it would take a lot longer to make one of the main series games due to the amount of detail, quality of graphics, etc, in order for said game to be successful with the fanbase. If what you said about Pokémon having the development kit for the 3DS since 2008 is true (which you yourself could not confirm), then that still doesn't mean that the Ruby and Sapphire remakes are going to be for that platform, as they would not have been working on it since then - they have had, what, 3 or 5 games completed and released since then (amazingly rough guess - I don't feel like looking it up)? I'd guess that they would have started work on the remakes mid-way through, or towards the end of, Black and White, if at all.

In all honesty, I feel the same way regarding how you're responding. There really was no point in adding that to the end of your post.

Like how it was not needed at the beginning of your other comment? It also seemed like you used bro there to direct it at me in a 'smart' way...Btw, like you said, italics is commonly used, but that doesn't mean everybody uses them. I use bold letters when I feel like putting emphasis on a small part. I could've just bolded the whole response if I wanted to sound rude/arrogant, which I wasn't trying to be. At that, I will end my own statements regarding this situation, seeing as I am not here to add drama.

Back on topic, I wasn't trying to shoot down the thought of it being a spin off, I even like spinoffs such as MD and Colosseum/XD for that matter. I was just trying to point that the 3DS being released not too long ago(around a year) doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be spinoffs to fill in until 6th gen. At this point, we have almost no way of knowing what will be released this Spring.

@Josha, no worries, I'm done with the personal comments now.
 

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Like how it was not needed at the beginning of your other comment? It also seemed like you used bro there to direct it at me in a 'smart' way...Btw, like you said, italics is commonly used, but that doesn't mean everybody uses them. I use bold letters when I feel like putting emphasis on a small part. I could've just bolded the whole response if I wanted to sound rude/arrogant, which I wasn't trying to be. At that, I will end my own statements regarding this situation, seeing as I am not here to add drama.

Back on topic, I wasn't trying to shoot down the thought of it being a spin off, I even like spinoffs such as MD and Colosseum/XD for that matter. I was just trying to point that the 3DS being released not too long ago(around a year) doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be spinoffs to fill in until 6th gen. At this point, we have almost no way of knowing what will be released this Spring.

@Josha, no worries, I'm done with the personal comments now.

In a joking, jovial way, yes. We've never talked before - why would I call you "bro" while being serious, anyway? In response to how you could have "just bolded the whole response if I wanted to sound rude/arrogant" - that wouldn't work, as you already bold every paragraph you type anyway, as well as giving it colour. I don't have anything against that, I just thought I'd point out that you're already doing it.

I'm confused - shoot down the idea of what being a spin-off? I haven't said that anything should be a spin-off, I've been talking about the current spin-offs, not that anything should be one. At the same time, what I've been saying all along still applies as a counter.

Okay, I'm done too. I enjoyed that. Sorry for seeming rude - I get too involved in discussions.
 

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Oops, I meant put CAPS, and that it seemed like 'smart' way as in you thinking I was a 'fool', lol(not an argument).

Back on topic, it just seemed you were implying that the rest of the games for a while, on the 3DS at that, would be spin offs, until 6th gen. I just hope it's something interesting. If a spinoff, hopefully it's a Mystery Dungeon or something like Colosseum(could be used to test a main type game on this handheld).
 
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I wish they could change around how you have to navigate the region to complete the game. I also want them to introduce a Pokemon like red Gyrados in HG/SS, maybe a shiny Wailord or something right around where the top of Mossdeep is maybe? Just thinking of ideas.
 

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I think a more elaborate secret bases system would be interesting. Also maybe expand a bit more on the abandoned ship would be interesting
 

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Anyone find it interesting that Alteria is being promoted now? kinda random plus Bannete bei g for Hallowee and of course the new TCG pack feturing Rayquaza... Hoenn seems to be getting a bit of attention
 

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Oops, I meant put CAPS, and that it seemed like 'smart' way as in you thinking I was a 'fool', lol(not an argument).

Back on topic, it just seemed you were implying that the rest of the games for a while, on the 3DS at that, would be spin offs, until 6th gen. I just hope it's something interesting. If a spinoff, hopefully it's a Mystery Dungeon or something like Colosseum(could be used to test a main type game on this handheld).

You said that the 3DS development kit arrived in 2008, so if GF wanted gen V on the 3DS it would have made B/W in 3DS
 

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Re: Ruby and Sapphire Remake Discussion

Anyone find it interesting that Alteria is being promoted now? kinda random plus Bannete bei g for Hallowee and of course the new TCG pack feturing Rayquaza... Hoenn seems to be getting a bit of attention

I totally saw that too! :eek: I hope this means some sort of announcement is forthcoming...

...and since there's supposed to be a new game this spring (whether it's RSEmakes or something else) we should be getting some news soon! I mean, there won't be time to advertise and get people excited if news doesn't come out soon!
 

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I still put the odds of the 3rd version being for the DS or 3DS at 50-50; perhaps it was meant to be for the DS, but due to the console's not-exactly-perfect start, Nintendo are making GameFreak port it to the 3DS?

Its better if its released on the DS in order to close off gen 5 on it. Gen 6 of coarse will be on the 3DS, so theres honestly no real reason to move the 3rd version over on the 3DS right now. I can see getting more sells being a reason but the 3DS isn't really doing that bad right now.

A port might just happen though, it would be better than it being 3DS exclusive.

"LOL at people who deny R/S remakes. everyone understanbd that GF will do remakes of my favorite games because its the pattern and they will make money. you will be proven wrong and I will be proven right."

True. I love Hoenn, but I don't want it to lock GF into an endless stream of remakes. If thats the case then simply release R/S/E on the VC along with the other Pokemon classics.

If it is going to be remade though, then it might be 2015/2016 release on the 3DS in gen 6. Releasing remakes right now is way too early going off of the idea that the last ones were 6 years apart. Releasing them right now would also mean they will be on the DS, which isn't a good idea imo since it would be better off on the 3DS.

As for the idea that it will move the series over to the next platform, I highly doubt that GF will move the series over to the 3DS in the middle of Gen 5, so its best to simply let it finish first.

In short, its much simpler to release the 3rd B/W version now and end Pokemon on the DS. After that Gen 6 can kick off on the 3DS just like how a new gen usually kicks off on a new console, and then they could possibly release R/S/E remakes.
 

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I think if they were to bring back walking Pokemon in the remakes, there could be some really cool interactions.

Like in Lavaridge the old ladies talk about different things that happen when you bring a Pokemon in. Now those things could really happen!

I know it's not a big part of the game, but the small things count too!
 

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You said that the 3DS development kit arrived in 2008, so if GF wanted gen V on the 3DS it would have made B/W in 3DS

I said they were one of the first to get a 3DS development kit and that I pretty much wasn't sure of an exact date, but it had to have been at least a year or 2 before the handheld came out(08 does seem kind of a stretch, maybe 09ish). We also know that they pretty much started on BW almost immediately after DP were finished(sometime in 06) so that would've been near 3 years worth of work gone?


As for the idea that it will move the series over to the next platform, I highly doubt that GF will move the series over to the 3DS in the middle of Gen 5, so its best to simply let it finish first.

In short, its much simpler to release the 3rd B/W version now and end Pokemon on the DS. After that Gen 6 can kick off on the 3DS just like how a new gen usually kicks off on a new console, and then they could possibly release R/S/E remakes.

Don't we still have 3 unreleased Gen 5 Pokemon though(Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect)? I mean I know they could release them all at once if they wanted, but I kind've doubt that they would do that. Maybe they could release them a few months apart from each other, but that still seems unlikely. I guess I could be wrong. :/


I think if they were to bring back walking Pokemon in the remakes, there could be some really cool interactions.

Like in Lavaridge the old ladies talk about different things that happen when you bring a Pokemon in. Now those things could really happen!

I know it's not a big part of the game, but the small things count too!

That does seem like an interesting point to bring back Pokemon following us, although some people would still like some kind of toggle option.
 
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